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Terry Casey[_2_] March 10th 10 01:07 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 
Graham. wrote:
"Mr Benn" wrote in message ...
"Brian Gregory [UK]" wrote in message ...
"alexander.keys1" wrote in message
...
There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.
Still some ????

There are still hundreds.

There are nowhere as many as there used to be. Several countries have scaled down their shortwave broadcasting substantially.
SRI was shut down a few years ago. VOA and VoRussia are hard to come by.


Gosh I can even remember the address without looking it up
SBC
CH-3000
Bern 16
Switzerland

Here's a question: does anyone remember Eddie Startz's program "Happy Station" on Radio Nederland


Oh yes! Every Sunday morning, afternoon and evening, then the early
hours of Monday morning!

Ok, I didn't listen to them all (the last was a repeat of the first,
anyway) but the other three were all different!

The first, at 1030 GMT was mainly for Europe and Asia/Australasia IIRC
with the repeat for America.

The 1600 broadcast was primarily for Africa and Europe and the 2200
(2230?) programme was in Spanish for Europe and South America.

Each programme had a lengthy intro - following the cessation of the
station identity signal we got a Souza march obviously played by a 1930s
dance band, followed by the station ID. "Hier Radio Nederland
Wereldomroep uit Hilversum ..." in Dutch and English, followed by a
second Souza march before the programmes started!

As well as experienced broadcaster, Eddie Startz was obviously a
talented linguist (he also did the Spanish programme himself) and
usually replied to letters in the language of the sender.

I recall he got a letter from Russia one week and apologised for not
speaking Russian. Within a week or two, he was responding to such
letters in Russian!

Listening and writing to SW stations in those days could have uses that
today have been replaced by the internet. When my Scout troop went
camping on the outskirts of Rotterdam in 1962, I was very popular for
two reasons - the first being that I was the only one with a street map
of Rotterdam!

The second reason was that 1962 was the year of what our American
friends call the vest-pocket radio. I won't say that every boy had one
but there were quite a few! (The previous year there'd only been one
radio at our summer camp - mine!)

In 1962, everybody wanted to listen to Radio Veronica, but the crude
alignment of a lot of these far-eastern jobs missed off the end of the
medium waveband (Veronica was on 192m/1562kHz - quite close to the band
edge.)

Quite a few of these radios passed through my hands for realignment, I
recall ...

--

Terry

Catweazel March 10th 10 02:11 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 
On Mar 8, 8:10*pm, Yeti wrote:


They should launch 'BBC Radio White British Man'

See what happens.

Seriously though, hopefully BBC Alba and BBC Radio 1 Xtra will go next.- Hide quoted text -

Curious is it not - that the BBC flagship of all things nu-labour,
should even consider axing programmes that would qualify as 'good
things'
under the diversity and equal opportunities propaganda.

Graham.[_2_] March 10th 10 06:18 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 


wrote in message ...
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:01:39 -0000, "Brian Gregory [UK]"
wrote:

"Paul Martin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Brian Reay wrote:
"Graham." wrote in message
...

Here's a question: does anyone remember Eddie Startz's program "Happy
Station" on Radio Nederland

I don't recall that. But there was a program called "???? calling
Dxers"
which I used to enjoy as a teenager...

It became "Media Network" in later years (with Jonathan Marks, who has
an excellent radio voice), and currently exists as a Blog run by Andy
Sennit (who doesn't).


I'd think "???? calling DXers" was more probably "Sweden calling DXers" on
Radio Sweden.


I regard my recordings of the Media Network documentaries "Tokyo Rose" and
"Wartime Deception" parts 1 and 2 (about wartime propaganda radio) and an
episode about the BBC monitoring service with a little bit about Radio
Caroline being forced off air at the end are my most valued off air
recordings. I also have higher quality MP3 downloads of "Wartime Deception"
which was repeated as a sort of grand finale before the broadcasts stopped.


There was that other offshore station Radio Northsea International
which unusually had a SW Transmitter.on Sunday mornings a programme
Called Northsea goes DX was presented by a chap called A J Burns which
could be quite interesting.
Why a Pop Station needed a S W transmitter has caused a lot of
speculation over the years. The station owners motives will probably
never be known but later selling the vessel to Libya and having some
components in the Lockerbie Bomb traced to their electronics company
has done nothing to stop rumours of a somewhat shady side to the
operation .

G.Harman


The 49 meter band was ideal for UK wide daylight reception, and, unlike now, many
domestic sets had the 49 meter band. Even some car radios had it, I had a Sharp
in my Vauxhall Viva.

Listen to a UK natter net on 40 meters during daylight and YWSWIM

A little anecdote of my own: A few weeks before RNI came on the air
I heard them on the "Echo Charlie" pirate band (about 6,600kHz)
they were using the callsign "One-Zero" and having QSOs with all the regulars there.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Graham.[_2_] March 10th 10 06:28 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 


"MB" wrote in message ...
On 09/03/2010 20:06, Graham. wrote:
"Mr wrote in message ...

"Brian Gregory wrote in message ...
om wrote in message
...
There are still some SW
stations around today, such as China Radio International, which seems
to be blatant pro-PRC propaganda, and Voice of Russia is good for a
non-US view of world events.

Still some ????

There are still hundreds.

There are nowhere as many as there used to be. Several countries have scaled down their shortwave broadcasting substantially.
SRI was shut down a few years ago. VOA and VoRussia are hard to come by.


Gosh I can even remember the address without looking it up
SBC
CH-3000
Bern 16
Switzerland

Here's a question: does anyone remember Eddie Startz's program "Happy Station" on Radio Nederland


Longest running radio programme from 1928 until the 1990s and presented by Eddie Startz from the start in 1928 until the 1970s. I
don't think any BBC presenter or programme comes near that for longevity.


If I ever meet Jimmy Young at a dinner party the first question I will ask him is
did he ever meet ES

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Jimbo/M on the 3 netbook ... March 10th 10 07:50 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:01:39 -0000, "Brian Gregory [UK]"
wrote:

"Paul Martin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Brian Reay wrote:
"Graham." wrote in message
...

Here's a question: does anyone remember Eddie Startz's program "Happy
Station" on Radio Nederland

I don't recall that. But there was a program called "???? calling
Dxers"
which I used to enjoy as a teenager...

It became "Media Network" in later years (with Jonathan Marks, who has
an excellent radio voice), and currently exists as a Blog run by Andy
Sennit (who doesn't).

I'd think "???? calling DXers" was more probably "Sweden calling DXers"
on
Radio Sweden.


I regard my recordings of the Media Network documentaries "Tokyo Rose"
and
"Wartime Deception" parts 1 and 2 (about wartime propaganda radio) and an
episode about the BBC monitoring service with a little bit about Radio
Caroline being forced off air at the end are my most valued off air
recordings. I also have higher quality MP3 downloads of "Wartime
Deception"
which was repeated as a sort of grand finale before the broadcasts
stopped.


There was that other offshore station Radio Northsea International
which unusually had a SW Transmitter.on Sunday mornings a programme
Called Northsea goes DX was presented by a chap called A J Burns which
could be quite interesting.
Why a Pop Station needed a S W transmitter has caused a lot of
speculation over the years. The station owners motives will probably
never be known but later selling the vessel to Libya and having some
components in the Lockerbie Bomb traced to their electronics company
has done nothing to stop rumours of a somewhat shady side to the
operation .

G.Harman


The 49 meter band was ideal for UK wide daylight reception, and, unlike
now, many
domestic sets had the 49 meter band. Even some car radios had it, I had a
Sharp
in my Vauxhall Viva.

Listen to a UK natter net on 40 meters during daylight and YWSWIM

A little anecdote of my own: A few weeks before RNI came on the air
I heard them on the "Echo Charlie" pirate band (about 6,600kHz)
they were using the callsign "One-Zero" and having QSOs with all the
regulars there.


me too...but in a chysler alpine s



Graham.[_2_] March 10th 10 08:30 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 


Here's a question: does anyone remember Eddie Startz's program "Happy Station" on Radio Nederland


Oh yes! Every Sunday morning, afternoon and evening, then the early hours of Monday morning!

Ok, I didn't listen to them all (the last was a repeat of the first, anyway) but the other three were all different!

The first, at 1030 GMT was mainly for Europe and Asia/Australasia IIRC with the repeat for America.

The 1600 broadcast was primarily for Africa and Europe and the 2200 (2230?) programme was in Spanish for Europe and South America.

Each programme had a lengthy intro - following the cessation of the station identity signal we got a Souza march obviously played
by a 1930s dance band, followed by the station ID. "Hier Radio Nederland Wereldomroep uit Hilversum ..." in Dutch and English,
followed by a second Souza march before the programmes started!

As well as experienced broadcaster, Eddie Startz was obviously a talented linguist (he also did the Spanish programme himself) and
usually replied to letters in the language of the sender.

I recall he got a letter from Russia one week and apologised for not speaking Russian. Within a week or two, he was responding to
such letters in Russian!

Listening and writing to SW stations in those days could have uses that today have been replaced by the internet. When my Scout
troop went camping on the outskirts of Rotterdam in 1962, I was very popular for two reasons - the first being that I was the only
one with a street map of Rotterdam!

The second reason was that 1962 was the year of what our American friends call the vest-pocket radio. I won't say that every boy
had one but there were quite a few! (The previous year there'd only been one radio at our summer camp - mine!)

In 1962, everybody wanted to listen to Radio Veronica, but the crude alignment of a lot of these far-eastern jobs missed off the
end of the medium waveband (Veronica was on 192m/1562kHz - quite close to the band edge.)

Quite a few of these radios passed through my hands for realignment, I recall ...


Let's try something else in the memory game.
[Musical crescendo] "Newsfeed, a non governmental public service"
Each news item was proceeded by "Three - two - one"
What is the name of the station?

Even Google wouldn't have a reference to this had I not mentioned it
in a newsgroup 3 years ago

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Calum[_2_] March 10th 10 09:58 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 
On 10/03/10 02:03, MB wrote:

Longest running radio programme from 1928 until the 1990s and presented
by Eddie Startz from the start in 1928 until the 1970s. I don't think
any BBC presenter or programme comes near that for longevity.


Letter from America wasn't far off-- presented by Alistair Cooke on BBC
Radio 4 from 1946-2004.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---

Albert Ross March 12th 10 03:40 PM

Cold War SW radio, was BBC 6 and Asian axe
 
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:28:58 -0000, "Graham." wrote:



"JohnT" wrote in message ...

"Graham." wrote in message ...

Here's a question: does anyone remember Eddie Startz's program "Happy Station" on Radio Nederland


No, but I can remember Horace Batchelor on Radio Luxembourg. From K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M, near Bristol.


Horace Batchelor on a leatherette cased tranny under the bedclothes you pervert ;-)


Nah, a mains powered "portable" with valves which also doubled up as a
hot water bottle


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