BBC HD - strangely good
 

Roger R wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On 16/03/2010 03:20, Andy Burns wrote:
Seems that C4/S4C/C5 aren't getting any HD bandwidth on MUXB, so the
"spare" reverts to the BBC, maybe they can turn the knob back to 15Mbps
after all?
They won't do that. Word on the street is they're keen to start up
BBC1 HD, in addition to the BBC HD channel. Curiously there's about the
right amount of null packets on the Astra 2D t/p that BBC HD uses too.

Ok I haven't been paying proper attention, but what's this BBC B HD channel
mentioned in the link you quoted in the Mendip DSO thread ? Is it a
version of the BBC1 HD you mention or something else ?

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/transmitt..._groups/mendip

The BBC B mux that will be carried from Mendip from April 7th, is the
DVB-T2 mux that is currently being carried from Winter Hill and Crystal
Palace (and a few other sites).

It contains the 'Freeview HD' services, currently BBC HD and ITV 1 HD,
from Easter it should also be carrying C4 HD. There was one more slot on
that mux that Ofcom had advertised. C5 and C4/S4C applied to carry a
service, but neither organisation could come up with a sustainable plan
for a service. Therefore there's a gap. There's increasing speculation
that the Beeb might grab the bandwidth to launch a BBC 1 HD service. If
so, BBC HD would revert to carrying HD programming from BBC 2, 3 and 4.

BBC HD - strangely good
 

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:23:10 +0000, Alan White
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:41:47 -0000, "Gary"
wrote:

1 The people who are watching the output are now getting used to HD so it
looks less special.

2 The programs being produced are less 'HD wow' programs i.e. it is less
impressive just because it has less evidence of the HD i.e. more normal
studio shots etc.

3. The August 2009 bit rate reduction has reduced the BBC HD quality to
little better than that of SD.

Big Brother has increased your chocolate ration from 30g to 15g a day

BBC HD - strangely good
 

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:33:37 +0000, Albert Ross
wrote:

Big Brother has increased your chocolate ration from 30g to 15g a day

Please, can I have some less?
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BBC HD - strangely good
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...

Ok I haven't been paying proper attention, but what's this BBC B HD
channel
mentioned in the link you quoted in the Mendip DSO thread ? Is it a
version of the BBC1 HD you mention or something else ?

The BBC B mux that will be carried from Mendip from April 7th, is the
DVB-T2 mux that is currently being carried from Winter Hill and Crystal
Palace (and a few other sites).

It contains the 'Freeview HD' services, currently BBC HD and ITV 1 HD,
from Easter it should also be carrying C4 HD. There was one more slot on
that mux that Ofcom had advertised. C5 and C4/S4C applied to carry a
service, but neither organisation could come up with a sustainable plan
for a service. Therefore there's a gap. There's increasing speculation
that the Beeb might grab the bandwidth to launch a BBC 1 HD service. If
so, BBC HD would revert to carrying HD programming from BBC 2, 3 and 4.

Thanks for bringing me up to speed on that.

Roger R

BBC HD - strangely good
 

Roger R wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

It contains the 'Freeview HD' services, currently BBC HD and ITV 1 HD,
from Easter it should also be carrying C4 HD. There was one more slot on
that mux that Ofcom had advertised. C5 and C4/S4C applied to carry a
service, but neither organisation could come up with a sustainable plan
for a service. Therefore there's a gap. There's increasing speculation
that the Beeb might grab the bandwidth to launch a BBC 1 HD service. If
so, BBC HD would revert to carrying HD programming from BBC 2, 3 and 4.

Thanks for bringing me up to speed on that.

One more twist in that story has happened today, C5 are going to launch an HD
channel this year, but only on Sky, and FTV encrypted. The implication there
is that they probably couldn't afford the fees the BBC were charging to
include them on Mux B, but Uncle Rupert could well have given them an offer
they couldn't refuse, to be made exclusively available on Sky.

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BBC HD - strangely good
 

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:57:06 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

One more twist in that story has happened today, C5 are going to launch
an HD channel this year, but only on Sky, and FTV encrypted. The
implication there is that they probably couldn't afford the fees the BBC
were charging to include them on Mux B, but Uncle Rupert could well have
given them an offer they couldn't refuse, to be made exclusively
available on Sky.

Please correct me if my understanding is in error, but I thought that
`five' had already applied for, and been awarded by OfCon, a licence
for the reserved space for HD services on PSB-3?

A quick check reveals that my recollection is not in error.

http://www.ofcom.org.UK/media/news/2009/06/nr_20090611a

So are they going to be handing back that licence to OfCon and
will OfCon now permit other bids for that HD reserved bandwidth
on PSB-3?

BBC HD - strangely good
 

J G Miller wrote:
Please correct me if my understanding is in error, but I thought that
`five' had already applied for, and been awarded by OfCon, a licence
for the reserved space for HD services on PSB-3?

A quick check reveals that my recollection is not in error.

http://www.ofcom.org.UK/media/news/2009/06/nr_20090611a

So are they going to be handing back that licence to OfCon and
will OfCon now permit other bids for that HD reserved bandwidth
on PSB-3?

This is what Ofcom said yesterday (March 16th 2010)

Quote:-

"Ofcom has today published its final decision on the reservation of
capacity on Multiplex B for an additional High Definition (HD) service
on Digital Terrestrial TV.

In June 2009, Ofcom made a provisional decision to reserve a HD slot for
Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd to provide new services on Freeview from
2010. This decision was subject to it resolving certain key criteria by
the end of 2009.

Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd has not been able to resolve these
outstanding issues. The only other applicants, Channel 4 and S4C, were
unable to provide Ofcom with confirmation of their ability to launch a
service within a defined timescale. Ofcom has therefore decided not to
reserve capacity for either of the applicants at this time.

Any capacity within Multiplex B that is not reserved by Ofcom is
available for the BBC to use. The BBC will now consider options to
ensure the capacity can be used to provide High Definition services that
will further benefit viewers of digital terrestrial television. This
brings forward by around two years the date when it was anticipated that
further capacity on Multiplex B would revert to the control of the BBC
Trust.

Ofcom intends next year to give the Commercial Public Service
Broadcasters another opportunity to apply to provide an additional HD
service from 2012.

The determination statement can be found he
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/d...ation_note.pdf

End Quote




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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:42:38 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

This is what Ofcom said yesterday (March 16th 2010)

Thank you for the update!

BBC HD - strangely good
 

In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:

One more twist in that story has happened today, C5 are going to launch an HD
channel this year, but only on Sky, and FTV encrypted. The implication there
is that they probably couldn't afford the fees the BBC were charging to
include them on Mux B

I get the impression that it was more that they couldn't satisfy the terms
and conditions prohibiting them from broadcasting any old rubbish upscaled
from VHS, and only on alternate Thursdays.


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BBC HD - strangely good
 

Mark Carver wrote:

.... We came in

The determination statement can be found he
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/d...ation_note.pdf

So this is where ...