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UCLAN January 29th 10 09:01 PM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
Digital video recorders, in cable, over-the-air and satellite flavors have
been around for awhile now, and if you’re like me, you’ll probably consider
having one as an indispensible part of your home theater system.

Moxi, a relative newcomer to the retail DVR category, offers HD DVR models
that provide features and capacities that others don’t, including multi-room
streaming, as well as the ability to accept recording commands sent to the DVR
box via the internet—a great feature if you’re occasionally absent-minded like
me and forget to set a recording timer for a show ahead of time before a trip.

http://www.avguide.com/review/moxi-h...5?src=Playback


Wes Newell[_2_] January 30th 10 01:10 AM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:01:29 -0800, UCLAN wrote:

Moxi, a relative newcomer to the retail DVR category, offers HD DVR
models that provide features and capacities that others don’t, including
multi-room streaming, as well as the ability to accept recording
commands sent to the DVR box via the internet—a great feature if you’re
occasionally absent-minded like me and forget to set a recording timer
for a show ahead of time before a trip.


I really hate to burst their bubble, but I've had these features for
years. And it doesn't even have live TV viewing over the network yet.
Something that's been available for about 10 years. And lastly, it's just
another cable box with no OTA support. IOW's, a doorstop/boat anchor if
you don't have cable.




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Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm
Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm
AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php

UCLAN[_2_] January 30th 10 06:25 AM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Moxi, a relative newcomer to the retail DVR category, offers HD DVR
models that provide features and capacities that others don’t, including
multi-room streaming, as well as the ability to accept recording
commands sent to the DVR box via the internet—a great feature if you’re
occasionally absent-minded like me and forget to set a recording timer
for a show ahead of time before a trip.


I really hate to burst their bubble, but I've had these features for
years.


And what DVR do you have?

Wes Newell[_2_] January 30th 10 09:11 AM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:25:10 -0800, UCLAN wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

Moxi, a relative newcomer to the retail DVR category, offers HD DVR
models that provide features and capacities that others don’t,
including multi-room streaming, as well as the ability to accept
recording commands sent to the DVR box via the internet—a great feature
if you’re occasionally absent-minded like me and forget to set a
recording timer for a show ahead of time before a trip.


I really hate to burst their bubble, but I've had these features for
years.


And what DVR do you have?


I have the same one I had 5 years ago after I dumped Tivo and other
commercial DVR's for their lack of features. I just bought some tuner
cards and installed them in my PC. Didn't have to do anything but install
the application and start the backend MythTV server running along with my
other servers. After that I installed a frontend receiver on my other
TV's. I would have thought you could tell from my sigline. But perhaps
that wasn't the reason for your inquiry.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm
Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm
AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php

Wes Newell[_2_] January 30th 10 01:34 PM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:22:23 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

In article ,
Wes Newell wrote:

And what DVR do you have?


I have the same one I had 5 years ago after I dumped Tivo and other
commercial DVR's for their lack of features. I just bought some tuner
cards and installed them in my PC. Didn't have to do anything but
install the application and start the backend MythTV server running
along with my other servers. After that I installed a frontend receiver
on my other TV's. I would have thought you could tell from my sigline.
But perhaps that wasn't the reason for your inquiry.


Yes, but can you record encrypted cable TV? In other words, is there
CableCard support?

No, there's not.


No, I don't have cable. But I could record it if I did, via component and
a component capture card that there is support for. I could also record
FTA satellite if I wanted to put up a dish and buy a card for it. And DVB-
T and DVB-T2, and others. But since I don't care about any of those, I
don't. When you can record as many shows as you want, there's really no
need to pay for cable or sat. I can record up to 6 HDTV shows and 3 SD
shows at the same time. Rarely do I ever record more than 5 though. How
many HDTV shows can you record with your Replay? Zero!

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm
Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm
AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php

[email protected] January 30th 10 04:58 PM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:01:29 -0800, UCLAN wrote:

Digital video recorders, in cable, over-the-air and satellite flavors have
been around for awhile now, and if you’re like me, you’ll probably consider
having one as an indispensible part of your home theater system.

Moxi, a relative newcomer to the retail DVR category, offers HD DVR models
that provide features and capacities that others don’t, including multi-room
streaming, as well as the ability to accept recording commands sent to the DVR
box via the internet—a great feature if you’re occasionally absent-minded like
me and forget to set a recording timer for a show ahead of time before a trip.

http://www.avguide.com/review/moxi-h...5?src=Playback


Thanks.

Their web site touted them to be available retail about the time I got
my first of 2 Moxi units more than 5 years ago, in a Motorola box,
provided by Adelphia Cable Co ($8.95/mo) - and later with continued
support from TWC. They were the HD replacements for my analog, series
1 TiVo. They apparently didn't need to go (or were enjoined from
going) retail then. It will be interesting to see how they fair in
the retail marketplace now.

Moxi software was the best commercial, stand-alone DVR GUI I've seen
so far, having had TiVo and other Moto cableco DVRs. The only TiVo 1
feature then missing was wish lists, which extend one's potential
recording plans beyond the short span of the guide. Sadly, the first
Moto units were a meager 80 GB - at that time ten to twelve hours of
HD!!!! A 500 GB drive is more sensible and eSATA of up to 6 TB way
better yet.

It would be nice to know how (and why) they're supporting 6 TB via a
single SATA connector? I'm sure that, right now, it will require a
multi-bay external box which treats its 3 or more drives as a single
unit. This architecture could/would make shelving the drives quite
impractical. Ahhh, perhaps self explanatory. Smacks of cablelab
restrictions.

I find it odd that they've chosen not to handle OTA. Of course there
is no need, if their target prospect is a major market, cable customer
or would-be customer.

MRV. Nice addition (catching up).
No PPV! I don't get that?
$500 MSRP and no monthly guide subscription. Did I read, or not read,
that right? Presumably the street price will be a significant
discount.

Our two TWC Moto DVRs, at $10/mo, do not have the HDD capacity (merely
160 GB) but one is equipped with a Hauppauge 1212 for archiving of
selected encrypted shows. The advantage I see for this is that 50+
months from now they will have been replaced at least once by
something else and, in the mean time, they'll be serviced or replaced
if (when) they cease functioning. So this Moxi, like TiVo, still
doesn't do it for us.


[email protected] January 30th 10 06:03 PM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
I'm with Wes...

Why go for some closed system??

UCLAN[_2_] January 30th 10 07:59 PM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Moxi, a relative newcomer to the retail DVR category, offers HD DVR
models that provide features and capacities that others don’t,
including multi-room streaming, as well as the ability to accept
recording commands sent to the DVR box via the internet—a great feature
if you’re occasionally absent-minded like me and forget to set a
recording timer for a show ahead of time before a trip.

I really hate to burst their bubble, but I've had these features for
years.


And what DVR do you have?


I have the same one I had 5 years ago after I dumped Tivo and other
commercial DVR's for their lack of features. I just bought some tuner
cards and installed them in my PC. Didn't have to do anything but install
the application and start the backend MythTV server running along with my
other servers. After that I installed a frontend receiver on my other
TV's. I would have thought you could tell from my sigline. But perhaps
that wasn't the reason for your inquiry.


Well, the article clearly specified *retail DVRs*. Your setup hardly
qualifies as such.

And, as a general rule, I don't read taglines. Especially large ones
with multiple URLs.

UCLAN[_2_] January 30th 10 08:01 PM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

And what DVR do you have?


I have the same one I had 5 years ago after I dumped Tivo and other
commercial DVR's for their lack of features. I just bought some tuner
cards and installed them in my PC. Didn't have to do anything but install
the application and start the backend MythTV server running along with my
other servers. After that I installed a frontend receiver on my other
TV's. I would have thought you could tell from my sigline. But perhaps
that wasn't the reason for your inquiry.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org


Yes, but can you record encrypted cable TV? In other words, is there
CableCard support?

No, there's not.


Is there with Replay TV?

UCLAN[_2_] January 30th 10 08:27 PM

Newcomer Moxi aims to maximize the HD DVR experience
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

No PPV! I don't get that?


Requires two-way communication with the head end.

No two-way cablecards yet. One way only.

Ergo, no PPV.


All current CableCARDS (M-cards) are tru2way compatible.
It's the host device (DVR, TV, etc.) that lacks the tru2way
compatible Java interface that is keeping these devices from
offering PPV, etc.


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