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In article UCLAN writes:

Your not paying a $50 cable bill did all that for you?

Hey...$50/month x 40 years x 12 months/year = $24000. Lots of houses
and cars can be bought for 24 grand! No?


If he puts that $50/month into something that nets 4% annual interest
after taxes, he comes out with $59098 at the end of those 40 years.

I think he only claimed $50K, so it seems reasonable.


Alan

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(Alan) wrote:
In article UCLAN
writes:

Your not paying a $50 cable bill did all that for you?

Hey...$50/month x 40 years x 12 months/year = $24000. Lots of houses
and cars can be bought for 24 grand! No?

If he puts that $50/month into something that nets 4% annual interest
after taxes, he comes out with $59098 at the end of those 40 years.

I think he only claimed $50K, so it seems reasonable.

Alan

Reasonable and UCLAN don't go together!

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:43:59 -0800, UCLAN wrote:

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

In article ,
Wes Newell wrote:

Just admit it: you're a cheap *******, and it makes you happy to have
non-pay TV cross your eyeballs--no matter how bad it may be.

When it comes to paying for TV programming I am a cheap *******. That's
also the reason my house has been paid off for about 10 years now. Why I
pay cash for new cars, and why I don't owe anyone a damn dime.

Your not paying a $50 cable bill did all that for you?

Hey...$50/month x 40 years x 12 months/year = $24000. Lots of houses
and cars can be bought for 24 grand! No?

480 periodic $50 deposits = ~ $76,900 at 5% per annum. Almost enough
for a year's retirement, if one doesn't drink ;-0)

BTW, at a fixed 6% mortgage rate for 40 years, it would have bought a
$9,100 house in January, 1970, with no money, no points, and no
closing costs.

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:54:03 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
wrote:

In article ,
" CLicker wrote:

For the sake of this debate, some real world numbers here for TWC (I
understand that the numbers are different elsewhere):

* basic tier, unencrypted cable: 68 SD and 12 HD streams, and a
dwindling 70 analog channels = $17.70/mo
* digital STB = $6.50/mo; opens up basic tier encrypted streams, 40 of
which are HDTV.
* dual receiver DVR = $10.00/mo.

DNK about cablecards, as we don't need them or know anyone locally
with them.

Look at the back of your cable box. You'll find two cablecards inside
there.

Those are merely the decryption mechanisms. FCC required that the
decryption be taken outside the box, to facilite users buying their own
boxes--like Moxi and Tivo.

Neither of our two TWC Motorola HD-DVRs has a cable card exposed.
While I've read before that cablecos are required to use the cards in
devices built after some forgotten date, none of the neighbors for
whom I've recently picked up and installed either an STB or DVR has an
exposed cable card.

I don't know what your point is anyway, as the discussion was about
the PRICE of cablecards - which, as I said, I DNK! If they are
internal, I also DNK. Regardless, I do not need one.

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:25:29 +0000, Alan wrote:

In article UCLAN
writes:

Your not paying a $50 cable bill did all that for you?

Hey...$50/month x 40 years x 12 months/year = $24000. Lots of houses and
cars can be bought for 24 grand! No?


If he puts that $50/month into something that nets 4% annual interest
after taxes, he comes out with $59098 at the end of those 40 years.

I think he only claimed $50K, so it seems reasonable.

It's nice to see someone in here with brains.:-)

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:17:53 -0600, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

When it comes to paying for TV programming I am a cheap *******. That's
also the reason my house has been paid off for about 10 years now. Why I
pay cash for new cars, and why I don't owe anyone a damn dime. So you
can call me a cheap ******* all you want. I'll laugh every time I look
at my bank account, and remember that $50,000 of it is there because I
never paid for TV programming over the last 50 years.:-)

Agree!!!!

Wes... what are you using for displays for you Myth boxes now days?

Are they all LCD TVs now? Or are some regular computer monitors? Or a
mix of both?

I use a 22" LCD monitor on my server/general purpose machine, where I
watch some TV. I've got a 32" 720p LCD where I watch most TV. And where I
almost never watch Tv I've got a 46" 120hz 1080p TV. I know this sounds
funny, but I don't like huge TV screens. At least not at short distances.
I sit about 2 feet from the 22", 6 feet from the 32", which is almost too
big for me. Tried a 37" and couldn't stand it. Compromised with wife for
32" to replace the 27" I had. Got the 46" for the TV room mainly for her.
She likes big screens, but lately watches with me almost all the time.
Makes a good back I guess.:-)

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:01:24 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

In article ,
Wes Newell wrote:

Ah, a certified cable box for $13/month rather than a CableCard for
$2.50.

Sorry, that's just stupid.

I guess you forgot the cost of the box that you are going to plug your
cable card into. That could range from $500 up + the $2.50 a month.

Not at all.

So I guess you're going to steal a Tivo-HD or Moxi box to plug the cable
card into. Yeah, I'd expect something like that from you.

See, that's what happens when you refuse to acknowledge the world
outside your comfort/price zone, Wes. You make up all kinds of random
**** to justify yourself, **** that has no bearing on reality.

ROFLMAO. You're an idiot.

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:02:00 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

In article ,
Wes Newell wrote:

And I
don't think they charge that much a month for a plain non-recorder
cable box anyway. In fact, I believe the first one is free.

You believe? And you don't have cable, don't want it, never had it?

You're wrong. But you'd never know that, what with your head in the
sand and all.

The following post proved that the $13 a month you quoted is wrong.
Enough said.



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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
In article ,
" CLicker wrote:

480 periodic $50 deposits = ~ $76,900 at 5% per annum. Almost enough
for a year's retirement, if one doesn't drink ;-0)

That's simply $50 you've chosen to spend elsewhere.

Amazing! Now you know other people's spending habits when you
don't even know them! Do you wonder why people think you are
an idiot, or are you too stupid to have that thought?

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Alan wrote:

Your not paying a $50 cable bill did all that for you?

Hey...$50/month x 40 years x 12 months/year = $24000. Lots of houses
and cars can be bought for 24 grand! No?

If he puts that $50/month into something that nets 4% annual interest
after taxes, he comes out with $59098 at the end of those 40 years.

I think he only claimed $50K, so it seems reasonable.

Well, no. He wrote "That's also the reason my house has been paid off for
about 10 years now. Why I pay cash for new cars, and why I don't owe anyone
a damn dime."

I'm not saying he *hasn't* done any of that, but saving $50/month didn't
do it for him.

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UCLAN wrote:
wrote:

Reasonable and UCLAN don't go together!

More sage advice from my young cyber-stalker, Raoul.

Young? Me? Moron, I'm 55 years old. Old enough to know you're a moron.
You're such an easy target, I just can't help myself! Fool.

Raoul

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UCLAN wrote:
wrote:

Hey...$50/month x 40 years x 12 months/year = $24000. Lots of houses
and cars can be bought for 24 grand! No?

480 periodic $50 deposits = ~ $76,900 at 5% per annum. Almost enough
for a year's retirement, if one doesn't drink ;-0)

Problem with that (besides finding a 5% per annum investment that accepts
$50 monthly deposits) is that he said he had been paying off his house
and buying cars, not investing the $50 each month @ 5%. But, I won't
argue with his rationalization.

Why not, you argue EVERYTHING else!

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:27:58 -0800, UCLAN wrote:

Alan wrote:

Your not paying a $50 cable bill did all that for you?

Hey...$50/month x 40 years x 12 months/year = $24000. Lots of houses
and cars can be bought for 24 grand! No?

If he puts that $50/month into something that nets 4% annual interest
after taxes, he comes out with $59098 at the end of those 40 years.

I think he only claimed $50K, so it seems reasonable.

Well, no. He wrote "That's also the reason my house has been paid off
for about 10 years now. Why I pay cash for new cars, and why I don't owe
anyone a damn dime."

I'm not saying he *hasn't* done any of that, but saving $50/month didn't
do it for him.

And I didn't credit any of that to having cable. I credited it to being a
cheap ******* on everything. The only thing I credited to not having
cable was $50,000 extra in the bank. As it turns out, that may have been
a low estimate according to others that did the calculations.

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On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:47:40 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

I don't have to. He's bought cars, which spells it all out. No cheap
******* buys cars like that. He buys one, and runs it into the ground.
Cars are a HUGE expense, with way less actual value than cable TV.

I also bought new boats. At one point owned 2 houses, everything fully
paid for. i never said I didn't have money to buy things with. I just
said I didn't waste it on pay TV. You sure like to make a lot of
assumptions about which you know nothing and aren't even close.



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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:12:44 -0800, UCLAN wrote:

wrote:

Neither of our two TWC Motorola HD-DVRs has a cable card exposed.
While I've read before that cablecos are required to use the cards in
devices built after some forgotten date, none of the neighbors for
whom I've recently picked up and installed either an STB or DVR has an
exposed cable card.


reinstated clip
I don't know what your point is anyway, as the discussion was about
the PRICE of cablecards - which, as I said, I DNK! If they are
internal, I also DNK. Regardless, I do not need one.


What model number boxes?

Why on earth would I care what model number they are? I'm not blind,
yet. As mentioned to the other poster, whether or not there are
cable cards inside the boxes, we do not need them; "need" as in
require something of import which is lacking. If they are inside, the
need has been fulfilled, it no longer exists. If they are not inside,
there is no need.

What has any of this to do with the monthly cost of cablecards, of
which I said: I do not know. And, I will now add, nor do I care.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

BOAT--Break Out Another Thousand

Q: What are the TWO happiest days in a boat owners life?

A: The day he BOUGHT the boat, and the day he SOLD the boat.

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On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:41:37 -0800, UCLAN wrote:

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

BOAT--Break Out Another Thousand

Q: What are the TWO happiest days in a boat owners life?

A: The day he BOUGHT the boat, and the day he SOLD the boat.

A falsehood. I was happy when I bought the Catalina 25; I was happier
when I bought the Columbia 45. I was happier still when the lake
marina where I moored the Catalina bought a 17' fixed keel sloop just
so I could give sailing lessons to the local teenagers. I was not
happy when I was cajoled into my economic senses to sell the
ever-depreciating and ever-in-need-of-maintenance boats and take up
residence ashore and save for retirement. Though this ;-( became this
;-0) when retirement became a reality.

Life afloat, on the Columbia, my ultimate happiness - and I never left
SoCal waters in it. When sold, it went to the Columbia River from
here; a fitting place for it, eh?

As an owner I can attest that whatever one needed for the boat cost 3
thousand - whether it was a gasket or a sail;-0) Wanna buy a gasket
for your boat or foul weather gear for yourself? Don't go to the
marine store, and wherever you do go don't mention BOAT. Need 750 sq
feet of protected water surface to moor your boat? Be prepared to pay
dearly for it plus dock incidentals, regular hull cleaning,
electrolysis protection, haul out and bottom painting, on-site engine
maintenance, environmentally friendly bilge cleaning, replacement or
enhanced sails, wood protection, fiberglass and metal painting, etc.

Was it worth it? Priceless.