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Jack Rabbitt January 20th 10 10:48 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the video/DVD
to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this true or shall i
just leave what i have in there now?

Thanks



Tim Downie January 20th 10 10:56 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 

"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the
video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this
true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?


Scart?? What sort of dark ages peripherals are you playing with? Gold HDMI
leads are an absolute minimum. Also, have you got a digital aerial?
Anything less that a full gold plated digital aerial will mean that you're
getting a substandard picture. Feeding your TV with electricity through
leads that aren't oxygen depleted will also degrade the picture. For best
picture stability ask your power company for nuclear power only. Other
sources just can't be relied on.

Lastly, make sure you have lithium batteries in your remote.

HTH

Tim



Alan[_4_] January 20th 10 11:00 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
In message , Jack
Rabbitt wrote
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the video/DVD
to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this true or shall i
just leave what i have in there now?

Thanks


Don't pay more than around £5 for your gold plated snake oil (probably
cheaper from other suppliers)
http://cpc.farnell.com/_/cxte2115/sc...gold-flat/dp/A
V12357

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

David January 20th 10 11:22 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 


"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the
video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this
true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?
Regards
David


David WE Roberts January 20th 10 11:23 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...

"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the
video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this
true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?


Scart?? What sort of dark ages peripherals are you playing with? Gold
HDMI leads are an absolute minimum.


Don''t you need seven HDMI leads to get true 7:1 sound?


widgitt January 20th 10 11:26 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
Just look to see if your tv and other equipment has gold plated scart
sockets to match ! and gold plated innards.

Graham.[_2_] January 21st 10 12:13 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 


"Tim Downie" wrote in message ...

"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality,
is this true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?


Scart?? What sort of dark ages peripherals are you playing with? Gold HDMI leads are an absolute minimum. Also, have you got a
digital aerial? Anything less that a full gold plated digital aerial will mean that you're getting a substandard picture. Feeding
your TV with electricity through leads that aren't oxygen depleted will also degrade the picture. For best picture stability ask
your power company for nuclear power only. Other sources just can't be relied on.

Lastly, make sure you have lithium batteries in your remote.


Yebut I just put Tescos half price lithiums in my Wii remotes, I reckoned they would vibrate stronger for longer.
Shall I go back to zinc carbon?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Tim Downie January 21st 10 12:15 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...


"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...

Lastly, make sure you have lithium batteries in your remote.


Yebut I just put Tescos half price lithiums in my Wii remotes, I reckoned
they would vibrate stronger for longer.
Shall I go back to zinc carbon?


Depends on how long you want your vibrators to run for.

Tim


Graham.[_2_] January 21st 10 12:23 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 


"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality,
is this true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?


Gold plating is not important, what is important is each of the signal leads inside
the cable should be individually screened, and not rely on an overall screen.

In general, the ones with a thick cable will meet this parameter, if yours are very thin, throw them away.
The ones that have a flat ribbon cable similar to an IDE computer drive ribbon are also OK,
and are to be recommended because the weight is better distributed, less chance of it
falling out.

As has been said, if you are paying more than a fiver each then you are being ripped off.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Graham.[_2_] January 21st 10 12:24 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 


"Tim Downie" wrote in message ...

"Graham." wrote in message ...


"Tim Downie" wrote in message ...

Lastly, make sure you have lithium batteries in your remote.


Yebut I just put Tescos half price lithiums in my Wii remotes, I reckoned they would vibrate stronger for longer.
Shall I go back to zinc carbon?


Depends on how long you want your vibrators to run for.

Tim


I wouldn't want them to discharge prematurely.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



J G Miller[_4_] January 21st 10 01:53 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:22:03 +0000, David wrote:

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?


I thought everybody knew that the best power socket plugs are not gold
plated, but rhodium plated. (Beware the inferior silver plated ones.)

A bargain at only £48,93 --

http://www.stoneaudio.co.UK/browse.a...D899&ei=A6RXS-
DELcfDsgbs7tjYCw&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum =1&ct=result&ved=0CAYQhgIwAA&usg=AFQjCNETIgTQp4XID 8gPCtQNp5A4Zanu9g

Lez Pawl January 21st 10 06:09 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...


"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...

"Graham." wrote in message
...


"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...

Lastly, make sure you have lithium batteries in your remote.

Yebut I just put Tescos half price lithiums in my Wii remotes, I
reckoned they would vibrate stronger for longer.
Shall I go back to zinc carbon?


Depends on how long you want your vibrators to run for.

Tim


I wouldn't want them to discharge prematurely.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


Oh come now....surely not.



Brian Gaff January 21st 10 08:15 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
Well, unless your leads are several metres long, there really is no need for
anything but normal leads. After all, I very much doubt if the wiring
inside the tv and the pins of its connectors were purchased from a stockist
of military spec components.


I think far more important is making sure the cables are kepts away from the
mains ones as much as possible, and making sure they are firm when mated. If
anything changes with a gentle wiggle then its not going to last long.



Brian

--
Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email.
graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email:
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________


"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the
video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this
true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?

Thanks




Alan[_4_] January 21st 10 09:06 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
In message , J G Miller wrote
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:22:03 +0000, David wrote:

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?


I thought everybody knew that the best power socket plugs are not gold
plated, but rhodium plated. (Beware the inferior silver plated ones.)

A bargain at only £48,93 -


Russ Andrews is the place to go.....another fine example of his wares -
cables terminated in wood!
http://tinyurl.com/y9mq5la
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Silk January 21st 10 10:00 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
On 20/01/2010 22:26, widgitt wrote:
Just look to see if your tv and other equipment has gold plated scart
sockets to match ! and gold plated innards.


And is filled with random exclamation marks. !

Max Demian January 21st 10 10:18 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , J G Miller wrote
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:22:03 +0000, David wrote:

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?


I thought everybody knew that the best power socket plugs are not gold
plated, but rhodium plated. (Beware the inferior silver plated ones.)

A bargain at only £48,93 -


Russ Andrews is the place to go.....another fine example of his wares -
cables terminated in wood!
http://tinyurl.com/y9mq5la


They send AC mains through the wires? Appalling! Think of the radiation!
They should convert the power to smoothed DC (not more than 12V), pass it
through quarter inch, single core, low oxygen copper wire, then convert it
back to DC with an inverter, with the 50 Hz synchronised to the transmitter
in Anthorn.

--
Max Demian



Peter Duncanson January 21st 10 11:29 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:06:06 +0000, Alan wrote:

In message , J G Miller wrote
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:22:03 +0000, David wrote:

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?


I thought everybody knew that the best power socket plugs are not gold
plated, but rhodium plated. (Beware the inferior silver plated ones.)

A bargain at only £48,93 -


Russ Andrews is the place to go.....another fine example of his wares -
cables terminated in wood!
http://tinyurl.com/y9mq5la


quote
The best way of describing the improvements with the SuperKordâ„¢ is that
it brings you so much closer to the performance recorded onto your
discs. Singers seem to perform with much more expression, musicians play
‘better’ and you get much more of a sense of the musical message. As
well as these ‘musical’ improvements, bass is cleaner, deeper and more
tuneful; midrange is more natural and treble is smoother and sweeter,
with less ‘glare’.
endquote

Amazingly all this wonderful clean, deep, smooth, sweet and non-glare
sound is recorded by equipment that lacks any of this Russ Andrews
magic.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

bartc January 21st 10 12:05 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the
video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this
true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?


Even better would be to solder in a permanent link between the equipment and
your TV.

--
Bartc


nospam January 21st 10 12:19 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
J G Miller wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:22:03 +0000, David wrote:

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?


I thought everybody knew that the best power socket plugs are not gold
plated, but rhodium plated. (Beware the inferior silver plated ones.)

A bargain at only £48,93 --

http://www.stoneaudio.co.UK/browse.a...D899&ei=A6RXS-
DELcfDsgbs7tjYCw&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnu m=1&ct=result&ved=0CAYQhgIwAA&usg=AFQjCNETIgTQp4XI D8gPCtQNp5A4Zanu9g


Cheapskate, http://www.lessloss.com/high-perform...bles-c-65.html

and you can't experience true fidelity without at least one of these

http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html


[email protected] January 21st 10 01:27 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:48:59 -0000, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote:

Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the video/DVD
to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this true or shall i
just leave what i have in there now?

Thanks


Forgive the levity you have invoked here, but the regulars are
(rightly) somewhat cynical about the marketing tactics of many
equipment sellers. The salient ponts a
1. If you have the option with your equipment to use HDMI connections
instead of scart, do so.
2. If you do have to use scart, use ordinary common sense to avoid
flimsy-looking cables, but do not pay extra for gold plating.

Peter Duncanson January 21st 10 02:42 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:19:48 +0000, nospam
wrote:

J G Miller wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:22:03 +0000, David wrote:

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?


I thought everybody knew that the best power socket plugs are not gold
plated, but rhodium plated. (Beware the inferior silver plated ones.)

A bargain at only £48,93 --

http://www.stoneaudio.co.UK/browse.a...D899&ei=A6RXS-
DELcfDsgbs7tjYCw&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resn um=1&ct=result&ved=0CAYQhgIwAA&usg=AFQjCNETIgTQp4X ID8gPCtQNp5A4Zanu9g


Cheapskate, http://www.lessloss.com/high-perform...bles-c-65.html

and you can't experience true fidelity without at least one of these

http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html


Wonderful! Does it humidify the air and kill moths, bacteria and odours
as well?

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

R. Mark Clayton January 21st 10 03:10 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 

"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the
video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this
true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?

Thanks


Gold is irrelevant unless you are frequently plugging and unplugging the
connector, so I would buy gold plated for professional use or for a mini
HDMI to connect your camera.

Otherwise decent HDMI cables are cheap (even with gold plating) and as the
signal either gets there or it doesn't the quality is not that critical.

CPC do loads

http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/br...1000455+500001



Dickie mint January 21st 10 06:32 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
Jack Rabbitt wrote:
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the video/DVD
to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this true or shall i
just leave what i have in there now?

Thanks


If the broadcasters don't use it what's the point of viewers doing so?

For example, audio is jumpered in BBC premises in 2.5 lb tin plated
copper cable. i.e. phone wire!

Video uses stuff broadly similar to coax aerial cable.

Plugs and sockets are never gold plated.

Richard

Graham.[_2_] January 21st 10 09:15 PM

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"Silk" wrote in message ...
On 20/01/2010 22:26, widgitt wrote:
Just look to see if your tv and other equipment has gold plated scart
sockets to match ! and gold plated innards.


And is filled with random exclamation marks. !


Only one, and at least he didn't include the full stop as well.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Graham.[_2_] January 21st 10 09:17 PM

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"Lez Pawl" wrote in message ...

"Graham." wrote in message ...


"Tim Downie" wrote in message ...

"Graham." wrote in message ...


"Tim Downie" wrote in message ...

Lastly, make sure you have lithium batteries in your remote.

Yebut I just put Tescos half price lithiums in my Wii remotes, I reckoned they would vibrate stronger for longer.
Shall I go back to zinc carbon?

Depends on how long you want your vibrators to run for.

Tim


I wouldn't want them to discharge prematurely.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


Oh come now....surely not.


Don't call me Surely. My wife dosn't know about that.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Andy Champ[_2_] January 21st 10 09:21 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

Gold is irrelevant unless you are frequently plugging and unplugging the
connector, so I would buy gold plated for professional use or for a mini
HDMI to connect your camera.

Otherwise decent HDMI cables are cheap (even with gold plating) and as the
signal either gets there or it doesn't the quality is not that critical.

CPC do loads

http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/br...1000455+500001



Many years ago we had trouble with gold plating on memory in PCs. It
turned out if you put gold plated SIMMs into lead/tin sockets you got
problems. Tin SIMMs in tin sockets, and gold in gold, both worked fine.

Andy

Graham.[_2_] January 21st 10 09:29 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 


"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:22:03 +0000, David wrote:

Has the TV got gold plated 13 amp Plug?


I thought everybody knew that the best power socket plugs are not gold
plated, but rhodium plated. (Beware the inferior silver plated ones.)

A bargain at only £48,93 --

http://www.stoneaudio.co.UK/browse.a...D899&ei=A6RXS-
DELcfDsgbs7tjYCw&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum =1&ct=result&ved=0CAYQhgIwAA&usg=AFQjCNETIgTQp4XID 8gPCtQNp5A4Zanu9g


Not sure where that link goes, even when repaired, but I think it might be he
http://www.stoneaudio.co.uk/browse.asp?product=899

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



widgitt January 22nd 10 12:56 AM

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" Just look to see if your tv and other equipment has gold plated
scart
sockets to match, and gold plated innards!"

Happy, or would you prefer not to have the "and" after a comma?

Its not my fault, I'm just a TV engineer wivout much eddukachun.


widgitt January 22nd 10 12:58 AM

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Dammit, the lines seperated this time ! They were alright before I
posted it.


Michael Chare January 22nd 10 02:12 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure im getting
the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the
video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this
true or shall i just leave what i have in there now?


Gold is a good conductor of electricity which is why it it is used on
computer components and is worth recovering.
It also does not tarnish so the gold contacts are more likely to stay good.

Whether it is worth paying for a gold plated scart lead really depends on
the price. With a bit of googling you may well be able to get one at a
reasonable price.

--
Michael Chare




Woody[_3_] January 22nd 10 08:18 AM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

As ive just got my excellent new telly up, i want to make sure
im getting the best picture my budget will allow for a minute.

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from
the video/DVD to the tv will greatly increase the picture
quality, is this true or shall i just leave what i have in
there now?


Gold is a good conductor of electricity which is why it it is
used on computer components and is worth recovering.
It also does not tarnish so the gold contacts are more likely
to stay good.

Whether it is worth paying for a gold plated scart lead really
depends on the price. With a bit of googling you may well be
able to get one at a reasonable price.

--



Total waste of money. As others have said the fixed connectors on
your Sky or Freeview box or on the TV input will not be gold
plated so what is the point of having it on the cable? Gold plate
may be worth considering if the connector is being inserted and
removed repeatedly, but with a SCART it is likely inserted once.

What is more important is to get one with a good quality cable -
generally that means thick. Some of the thin cables can be quite
lossy, may not have all 21 pins connected, and above all may not
be screened which can cause noise pick-up. Go for a good thick
cable (especially if using anything longer than the usual 0.5-1m)
with good-looking connectors and you won't go far wrong.

Also remember that if you have a new panel TV and your source has
HDMI you will get a better picture through that route than with
SCART. If your source has component (red, green, blue)
connections (your TV will almost certainly have) you will also
get a better picture that way than with SCART, but again with
either there is no need to go for gold plating, just a good
quality wire.

Having said all that, unless your screen is bigger than about 26"
and/or you are watching it close up, you are unlikely to see any
difference whichever cable you use.



--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



Grimly Curmudgeon January 22nd 10 02:38 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jack Rabbitt" saying
something like:

Ive heard that getting gold platted scart leads which go from the video/DVD
to the tv will greatly increase the picture quality, is this true or shall i
just leave what i have in there now?


Forget gold plating, unless it's near enough free of charge - and the
price of the golden cheapies, it nearly is.
Of much more importance with scart, is to have a decently screened lead.
You really can see an enormous difference and I'd be surprised, given
how common they are, if you don't have one or two of the cheapy scarts
with unshielded cores.

Grimly Curmudgeon January 22nd 10 02:40 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Alan
saying something like:

Russ Andrews is the place to go.....another fine example of his wares -
cables terminated in wood!
http://tinyurl.com/y9mq5la


I'm filled with the desire to beat him around the head.

Johnny B Good January 22nd 10 03:18 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
The message
from "Woody" contains these words:

====snip====

Total waste of money. As others have said the fixed connectors on
your Sky or Freeview box or on the TV input will not be gold
plated so what is the point of having it on the cable? Gold plate
may be worth considering if the connector is being inserted and
removed repeatedly, but with a SCART it is likely inserted once.


That's actually the opposite of the benefit of gold plated contacts.
The real benefit comes from the fact that they provide a more reliable
contact where the connector is normally intended to remain undisturbed
for protracted periods.

Gold is a fair electrical conductor which is corrosion resistant and
is, most importantly, soft enough to 'micro-weld' in the sliding contact
style connector normally used. Also, it works best when _both_
connectors employ gold plating.

The insertion cycle rating for items like DB25 connectors with gold
plated contacts were usually either 25 or 50 cycles, obviously, not
rated for frequent disconnections. The low rating was mainly due to the
minimised amount of gold being used to avoid unnecessary expense.
Thicker platings wouldn't be practical to achieve ratings in the 1000 to
10000 range which would be better served by other more durable
materials.

--
Regards, John.

Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying.
The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots.


Peter Duncanson January 22nd 10 03:24 PM

Gold Scart leads etc
 
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:40:54 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Alan
saying something like:

Russ Andrews is the place to go.....another fine example of his wares -
cables terminated in wood!
http://tinyurl.com/y9mq5la


I'm filled with the desire to beat him around the head.


Or you could try a silver bullet. Or perhaps it would be better to use a
gold-plated OFC bullet.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)


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