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LG 50PS6000
Hi All,
My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks |
LG 50PS6000
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:52:12 -0000, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote:
Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. I have no experience of that TV, but what you are describing seems like a normal Freeview picture. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? A TV can't work miracles with a very limited bit rate input such as from Freeview. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
LG 50PS6000
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:16:45 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote: On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:52:12 -0000, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote: Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. I have no experience of that TV, but what you are describing seems like a normal Freeview picture. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? A TV can't work miracles with a very limited bit rate input such as from Freeview. My three LCD TVs work very well with Freeview. Maybe the problem is just with plasma. Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com Neural network applications, help and support. |
LG 50PS6000
"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks So how far away are you viewing that 50 inch screen from, how big is the room. Did you by any chance read the thread in uk.tech.broadcast entitled "600 Hz technology"? You seem to have a good idea of what that actually means, I suspect most people here do not, myself included. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Jan 8, 10:52*pm, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote:
Is it me, or the TV? Neither. It's the huge gulf between expectation and performance, which has been brought about by the conspiracy of deception operated by OFCOM, the broadcasters, and the set makers. Bill |
LG 50PS6000
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:52:12 -0000, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote:
I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? 1.Ensure that the set has been switched on for at least twenty minutes. 2. Set all the 'fancy' picture options to 'Off' or 'Neutral'. 3. Reduce 'Colour', 'Contrast' and 'Brightness' to zero. This should give a blank, black screen. 4. Slowly increase 'Brightness' until their is a just perceptible lightening of the screen. 5. Slowly increase 'Contrast' until you have an acceptable black and white picture. Some further small adjustment of 'Brightness' may be necessary to achieve this. 6. If you have a 'Gamma' control slowly increase 'Gamma' until you have sufficient amount of detail in the 'blacks'. 7. Make further small adjustments of 'Brightness' and 'Contrast' to optimize the black and white picture. 8. Increase 'Colour' to achieve realistic flesh tones. 9. Repeat until happy. The important thing is to get a decent black and white picture and to use a reliable(?) programme source. -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather |
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Well, LGs at least some of the cheaper ones are earning a reputation with a
few friends of being crap on analogue source material but OK on digital. I'd suspect that less money has been spent on the a to d circuitry than the digital stuff. Obviously, myself I have no opinion, but Plasmas I've been in the same room as seem to pulsate to me, and I'm very sensitive to this sort of visual disturbance even though I cannot actually 'see' images any mor. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks |
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"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? [snip] Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Try connecting a Blueray DVD player and compare the results. The Blueray DVD should give the best picture your set can display, but don't expect any broadcast picture to be as good, especially Standard Definition Freeview TV which, as others have commented will look awful. But at least you will know if its the TV or you. Roger R |
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:33:09 +0000, Alan White
wrote: On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:52:12 -0000, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote: I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? 1.Ensure that the set has been switched on for at least twenty minutes. 2. Set all the 'fancy' picture options to 'Off' or 'Neutral'. 3. Reduce 'Colour', 'Contrast' and 'Brightness' to zero. This should give a blank, black screen. 4. Slowly increase 'Brightness' until their is a just perceptible lightening of the screen. 5. Slowly increase 'Contrast' until you have an acceptable black and white picture. Some further small adjustment of 'Brightness' may be necessary to achieve this. 6. If you have a 'Gamma' control slowly increase 'Gamma' until you have sufficient amount of detail in the 'blacks'. 7. Make further small adjustments of 'Brightness' and 'Contrast' to optimize the black and white picture. 8. Increase 'Colour' to achieve realistic flesh tones. 9. Repeat until happy. To anyone who might think that procedure is unnecessarily fiddly: it isn't. It gives good results. The important thing is to get a decent black and white picture and to use a reliable(?) programme source. Indeed. Some of what the OP described sounds like a typical Freeview SD pictu quote It also doesn't seem to be able to handle 'patterns' very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. endquote -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv) |
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"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. advertising standards had to investigate a case like this recently - someone complained that calling it 600hz would lead people to think that meant the screen had a 600hz update - which they don't -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com you fight better when you have a bear! |
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No the repetition rate will still be as slow as the original in any case. If
flicker is on the program it will be faithfully transfered. I really do not know why we invent bogus impressive sounding features, what is needed is some kind of benchmarking system of test signals to see what its like. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "The dog from that film you saw" wrote in message ... "Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. advertising standards had to investigate a case like this recently - someone complained that calling it 600hz would lead people to think that meant the screen had a 600hz update - which they don't -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com you fight better when you have a bear! |
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In message , Brian Gaff
writes No the repetition rate will still be as slow as the original in any case. If flicker is on the program it will be faithfully transfered. I really do not know why we invent bogus impressive sounding features, what is needed is some kind of benchmarking system of test signals to see what its like. Brian I think these 600mhz machines are designed mainly for playback of mp5 files. LOL -- Ian |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... In message , Brian Gaff writes No the repetition rate will still be as slow as the original in any case. If flicker is on the program it will be faithfully transfered. I really do not know why we invent bogus impressive sounding features, what is needed is some kind of benchmarking system of test signals to see what its like. Brian I think these 600mhz machines are designed mainly for playback of mp5 files. LOL -- Ian Thanks for all the responses, so by the sounds of it, its the Freeview which is more of the poor picture, rather then the TV itself? Im just trying to work out the advantages of way ive upgraded to a nice 50" tv which the picture now doesnt seem much cop, to keeping my 26" tv which freeview was always razor sharp. We were watching Eastenders last night (sorry for my taste in TV) but that picture didnt look very sharp, but watching a downloaded divx film looked ok. I think faces and outlines look a bit fuzzy fairly close up, i like the style and look of the TV, just not totally sure its what i was after now really. Just supposing i go for the return option, anyone know how Comet deals with returns of open and used TVs? Its really hard for me to say there is an acutal fault, just perhaps my own expectations of the TV for 800 notes were alot higher! Thanks |
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"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... "Ian" wrote in message ... In message , Brian Gaff writes No the repetition rate will still be as slow as the original in any case. If flicker is on the program it will be faithfully transfered. I really do not know why we invent bogus impressive sounding features, what is needed is some kind of benchmarking system of test signals to see what its like. Brian I think these 600mhz machines are designed mainly for playback of mp5 files. LOL -- Ian Thanks for all the responses, so by the sounds of it, its the Freeview which is more of the poor picture, rather then the TV itself? Im just trying to work out the advantages of way ive upgraded to a nice 50" tv which the picture now doesnt seem much cop, to keeping my 26" tv which freeview was always razor sharp. We were watching Eastenders last night (sorry for my taste in TV) but that picture didnt look very sharp, but watching a downloaded divx film looked ok. I think faces and outlines look a bit fuzzy fairly close up, i like the style and look of the TV, just not totally sure its what i was after now really. Just supposing i go for the return option, anyone know how Comet deals with returns of open and used TVs? Its really hard for me to say there is an acutal fault, just perhaps my own expectations of the TV for 800 notes were alot higher! Thanks Just another question, my daughter has been watching an Elmo DVD on the tv, ive noticed that when he bobs up and down quite quickly there seems to be a small ray of dot trials which follow him around, only really noticable when goes fast but again this is something im noticing on this TV and not my old one! Again is this normal? |
LG 50PS6000
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:50:18 +0000, Peter Duncanson
wrote: To anyone who might think that procedure is unnecessarily fiddly: it isn't. It gives good results. .... which is why I've been using it for forty years :-) I visited my daughter this morning and found myself sitting five feet from a 42" over-saturated, too bright, too contrasty Sony Bravia. When I volunteered to fix the picture she refused my kind offer on the grounds that there was nothing wrong with it. Sometimes I despair... -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather |
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:38:41 -0000, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote:
Its really hard for me to say there is an acutal fault, just perhaps my own expectations of the TV for 800 notes were alot higher! It is a fault. The set is advertised as having built in Freeview so it should be able to handle it. Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com Neural network applications, help and support. |
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"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Just another question, my daughter has been watching an Elmo DVD on the tv, ive noticed that when he bobs up and down quite quickly there seems to be a small ray of dot trials which follow him around, only really noticable when goes fast but again this is something im noticing on this TV and not my old one! Again is this normal? sounds like one of the so called ' picture improvement ' modes - presumably these can be turned off ? -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com you fight better when you have a bear! |
LG 50PS6000
"Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks Are you looking for an excuse to get a refund or to buy a decent LCD TV? 600Hz is meaningless by the way - what were you told it represented? That is almost as bad as when the ASA had to tell Samsung off for telling lies about their latest series of TVs being "LED". They were only LCD with LEDs for the backlighting! The bigger the screen, the more things you will notice wrong with a low bitrate "Digital TV channel" from Freeview. Some channels are better than others. Try watching a DVD and you will notice the difference. Just wait until you see the screen burn from channel logos, known as dogs. Your electric bill will also be huge as I would say that TV uses 300W+ Didn't you go and look at any of the TVs to see what sort of picture they could display? I spent days doing that before buying a SAMSUNG LCD. Shops sometimes have the colour saturated and contrast right up to make the TV noticable - especially if they are promoting any HD products! I think you made a bad choice buying "old technology" like Plasma, you would have been better getting a 42" LG LCD TV as they look much better then the 50" plasma for picture quality. In a few years we will have LED screens which will not require backlighting, but only after all the LCDs are sold off. They are only a few mm thick and you can hang them on a wall like a blind. Sadly the main manufacturers made a decision not to release them for at least 5 years. |
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"IanT" wrote in message ... "Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks Are you looking for an excuse to get a refund or to buy a decent LCD TV? 600Hz is meaningless by the way - what were you told it represented? That is almost as bad as when the ASA had to tell Samsung off for telling lies about their latest series of TVs being "LED". They were only LCD with LEDs for the backlighting! The bigger the screen, the more things you will notice wrong with a low bitrate "Digital TV channel" from Freeview. Some channels are better than others. Try watching a DVD and you will notice the difference. Just wait until you see the screen burn from channel logos, known as dogs. Your electric bill will also be huge as I would say that TV uses 300W+ Didn't you go and look at any of the TVs to see what sort of picture they could display? I spent days doing that before buying a SAMSUNG LCD. Shops sometimes have the colour saturated and contrast right up to make the TV noticable - especially if they are promoting any HD products! I think you made a bad choice buying "old technology" like Plasma, you would have been better getting a 42" LG LCD TV as they look much better then the 50" plasma for picture quality. In a few years we will have LED screens which will not require backlighting, but only after all the LCDs are sold off. They are only a few mm thick and you can hang them on a wall like a blind. Sadly the main manufacturers made a decision not to release them for at least 5 years. How do i get a refund for this TV if ive open the box and used it, i purchased it a week ago, came yesterday? the comet refund policy says: If you've opened the box: Provided the product is still unused, the process is almost the same except that, for products costing £25 or more, we deduct a restocking fee (10% of the original price up to a maximum of £99) from your refund to cover the cost of repackaging and restocking. Alternatively you can choose a gift card credit for the full purchase price. Remember to return all the original packaging. One more thing - we can't accept the return of any product with missing parts such as remote control, leads or manuals, so make sure you hang on to everything that came with your product. We also can't take back any pre-recorded videos, DVD, audio, video game or software products if the seal has been broken unless they are faulty. Its a bit unclear about if you have used the product? - is it worth saying its faulty?, how do i prove or disprove this if it is faulty if i just say i think its faulty as its very fuzzy, would they take it away and want to fix it or offer a refund (do they test it)? Thanks |
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Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:50:18 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote: To anyone who might think that procedure is unnecessarily fiddly: it isn't. It gives good results. ... which is why I've been using it for forty years :-) I visited my daughter this morning and found myself sitting five feet from a 42" over-saturated, too bright, too contrasty Sony Bravia. When I volunteered to fix the picture she refused my kind offer on the grounds that there was nothing wrong with it. Sometimes I despair... I blame the parents. ;-) -- Adrian |
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:26:58 +0000, Adrian wrote:
I blame the parents. ;-) LOL! -- Alan White Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent. Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather |
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:21:58 +0000, Alan White
wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:50:18 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote: To anyone who might think that procedure is unnecessarily fiddly: it isn't. It gives good results. ... which is why I've been using it for forty years :-) I visited my daughter this morning and found myself sitting five feet from a 42" over-saturated, too bright, too contrasty Sony Bravia. When I volunteered to fix the picture she refused my kind offer on the grounds that there was nothing wrong with it. Sometimes I despair... I was a TV engineer in the late 1960's when colour sets first arrived. I used the brightness, contrast, colour set method. Most customers didn't like the results. Everything had to be over the top. I even told some customers that the tubes would not last long with the colours they wanted. Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com Neural network applications, help and support. |
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In article ,
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: I was a TV engineer in the late 1960's when colour sets first arrived. I used the brightness, contrast, colour set method. Most customers didn't like the results. Everything had to be over the top. I and it wasn't just the customers. We had a US producer using on of the Lime Grove studios - everything had to be fully saturated. "They've paid for color, so we give them COLOR" was his motto. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: I was a TV engineer in the late 1960's when colour sets first arrived. I used the brightness, contrast, colour set method. Most customers didn't like the results. Everything had to be over the top. I and it wasn't just the customers. We had a US producer using on of the Lime Grove studios - everything had to be fully saturated. "They've paid for color, so we give them COLOR" was his motto. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 Didn't the ITV companies have a moratorium on B&W feature films for some time after colour was introduced? -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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In article ,
Graham. wrote: "charles" wrote in message ... In article , Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: I was a TV engineer in the late 1960's when colour sets first arrived. I used the brightness, contrast, colour set method. Most customers didn't like the results. Everything had to be over the top. I and it wasn't just the customers. We had a US producer using on of the Lime Grove studios - everything had to be fully saturated. "They've paid for color, so we give them COLOR" was his motto. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 Didn't the ITV companies have a moratorium on B&W feature films for some time after colour was introduced? I don't think so. I remeber a dealer complining that on Saturday mornings all 3 channels were in B&W most weeks. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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Jack Rabbitt wrote:
Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks I bought 1 19-inch LG Freeview TV for our kitchen last week in the Currys sale. The software seems quite clever but the picture still looks slightly soft, even after tweaking the settings. I couldn't get things any better on the Currys shop model either. Whilst in the store I also took a look at some of the bigger LG sets - same problem to me. Perhaps they look better on HD stuff, but based on what I've seen I don't think that I'll be buying any more LG kit, unless the picture situation (as I see it) improves. Clem |
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At standard resolution this equates to pixels over 1mm square - of course it
will look fuzzy close up! This size of screen needs to be viewed from at least 5m. "Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , Graham. wrote: "charles" wrote in message ... In article , Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: I was a TV engineer in the late 1960's when colour sets first arrived. I used the brightness, contrast, colour set method. Most customers didn't like the results. Everything had to be over the top. I and it wasn't just the customers. We had a US producer using on of the Lime Grove studios - everything had to be fully saturated. "They've paid for color, so we give them COLOR" was his motto. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 Didn't the ITV companies have a moratorium on B&W feature films for some time after colour was introduced? I don't think so. I remeber a dealer complining that on Saturday mornings all 3 channels were in B&W most weeks. Could it have been something Granada did then? I have a strong memory of something of this sort. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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I bought 1 19-inch LG Freeview TV for our kitchen last week in the Currys sale. The software seems quite clever but the picture still looks slightly soft, even after tweaking the settings. I couldn't get things any better on the Currys shop model either. Whilst in the store I also took a look at some of the bigger LG sets - same problem to me. Perhaps they look better on HD stuff, but based on what I've seen I don't think that I'll be buying any more LG kit, unless the picture situation (as I see it) improves. The recent 32" LGs which I have come across when installing satellite etc have shown apalling lack of definition with non-HD material to the extent that totally non-technical customers have commented on the lack of quality. You could say its their own fault for not looking at the quality properly before buying but also the shops are seriously at fault for only showing programmes from a HD source. This gives no indication about how a set deals with poor SD material and this is the area which seems to be most variable from set to set. Buyers beware, SD quality is what you should look most closely at as that is generally what you are likely to be watching most of the time. Most sets can make a reasonable job of HD. Linked to this discussion, remember that most new models from most manufacturers have seperate settings for all of the picture perameters for each of the AV inputs and for Freeview and for Analogue. So settings which you make when you are watching Freeview, for example, will not affect those for other inputs. This makes installation very long-winded. It also causes many people to ask why the picture from Sky is totally different to that from Freeview etc etc. |
LG 50PS6000
On Jan 9, 9:04*pm, "Jack Rabbitt" wrote:
"IanT" wrote in message ... "Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, *and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks Are you looking for an excuse to get a refund or to buy a decent LCD TV? 600Hz is meaningless by the way - what were you told it represented? That is almost as bad as when the ASA had to tell Samsung off for telling lies about their latest series of TVs being "LED". *They were only LCD with LEDs for the backlighting! The bigger the screen, the more things you will notice wrong with a low bitrate "Digital TV channel" from Freeview. *Some channels are better than others. *Try watching a DVD and you will notice the difference. Just wait until you see the screen burn from channel logos, known as dogs. Your electric bill will also be huge as I would say that TV uses 300W+ Didn't you go and look at any of the TVs to see what sort of picture they could display? *I spent days doing that before buying a SAMSUNG LCD. Shops sometimes have the colour saturated and contrast right up to make the TV noticable - especially if they are promoting any HD products! I think you made a bad choice buying "old technology" like Plasma, you would have been better getting a 42" LG LCD TV as they look much better then the 50" plasma for picture quality. In a few years we will have LED screens which will not require backlighting, but only after all the LCDs are sold off. *They are only a few mm thick and you can hang them on a wall like a blind. *Sadly the main manufacturers made a decision not to release them for at least 5 years. How do i get a refund for this TV if ive open the box and used it, i purchased it a week ago, came yesterday? *the comet refund policy says: If you've opened the box: Provided the product is still unused, the process is almost the same except that, for products costing £25 or more, we deduct a restocking fee (10% of the original price up to a maximum of £99) from your refund to cover the cost of repackaging and restocking. Alternatively you can choose a gift card credit for the full purchase price. Remember to return all the original packaging. One more thing - we can't accept the return of any product with missing parts such as remote control, leads or manuals, so make sure you hang on to everything that came with your product. We also can't take back any pre-recorded videos, DVD, audio, video game or software products if the seal has been broken unless they are faulty. Its a bit unclear about if you have used the product? - is it worth saying its faulty?, how do i prove or disprove this if it is faulty if i just say i think its faulty as its very fuzzy, would they take it away and want to fix it or offer a refund (do they test it)? Thanks Jack, I have nothing to suggst over what has already been suggested except PLEASE IGNORE EVERYTHING IanT says. He has his own agenda which doesn't match reality. |
LG 50PS6000
On 11/01/2010 01:18, widgitt wrote:
The recent 32" LGs which I have come across when installing satellite etc have shown apalling lack of definition with non-HD material to the extent that totally non-technical customers have commented on the lack of quality. Is there a technical parameter that can be readily advertised for the goodness of the SD-to-HD scaler that is present in these sets? I know one could mention range and 'engine' names for each manufacturer and rate them against each other, but how about something _real_ related to the method of averaging, refresh and interpolation? Perhaps dumbed down with another digital tick campaign - er, "ideal for SD"? -- Adrian C |
LG 50PS6000
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message ... At standard resolution this equates to pixels over 1mm square - of course it will look fuzzy close up! This size of screen needs to be viewed from at least 5m. "Jack Rabbitt" wrote in message ... Hi All, My LG 50PS6000 plasma TV arrived today. To be honest im not totally sure im pleased with it!? The picture looks a bit fuzzy unless you are sitting fair way back, is this normal? It also doesnt seem to be able to handle `patterns` very well, i.e if you are watching something and they have wallpaper in the background, it kinda pixleates over it. Im also not sure if the screen seems to flicker a bit here and there, sometimes you can see the screen brightness fade a little, and i have the energy saver this off. I have tried playing with the settings and cant seem to make it much better, just so i can try, what is a good setting for the brightness, colour and contrast? Seeing as the tv is supposed to have 600hz etc i did expect a much sharper and clearer picture. Is it me, or the TV? Thanks Guys thanks for all who replied, the TV is now boxed up ready for the off! |
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