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JNugent[_4_] December 30th 09 01:40 PM

BBC Con bias
 
J G Miller wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:00:30 +0000, Alan wrote:

It doesn't matter who gets in the next time as the current fiscal
situation will dictate what has to be done.


Not entirely true. A government legislates social as well as economic
policy so although the government will be restrained in terms of
economic spending due to the size of the deficit, it will have the
power to legislate on criminalizing or legalizing aspects of personal
behavior


....if they can get a majority for it in the Commons.

J G Miller[_4_] December 30th 09 02:04 PM

BBC Con bias
 
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:40:43 +0000, JNugent wrote:

...if they can get a majority for it in the Commons.


Nonetheless, a government does not require a majority to make ministerial
orders.


Enzo Matrix December 30th 09 02:08 PM

BBC Con bias
 
Martin Jay wrote:
Con leader goes on fun run:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8432439.stm.

Is it really a news item?

Current headlines at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/default.stm:

Briton told of execution timing


He wasn't a Briton. He was a British national of Pakistani origin.

--
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.



JNugent[_4_] December 30th 09 02:14 PM

BBC Con bias
 
J G Miller wrote:

On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:40:43 +0000, JNugent wrote:


[on the proposition that a government can change legislation:]

...if they can get a majority for it in the Commons.


Nonetheless, a government does not require a majority to make ministerial
orders.


A minister can order only what he is already empowered by statute to order.
He certainly can't make regulations/statutory instruments (they have to be
approved by Parliament).

In order to preclude the possibility of a minister exercising the
discretionary power conferred by the post, Parliament would have to have the
minister ejected from office, which might be achieved by a no-confidence
motion in the government.

J G Miller[_4_] December 30th 09 03:18 PM

BBC Con bias
 
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:14:23 +0000, JNugent wrote:

A minister can order only what he is already empowered by statute to
order. He certainly can't make regulations/statutory instruments (they
have to be approved by Parliament).


So long as the minister can engineer and declare the necessary state of
emergency, from the powers invested by the Civil Contingencies Act 2004:

QUOTE

Emergency regulations may make provision of any kind that could be made
by Act of Parliament or by the exercise of the Royal Prerogative; in
particular, regulations may—
(a)confer a function on a Minister of the Crown, on the Scottish
Ministers, on the National Assembly for Wales, on a Northern Ireland
department, on a coordinator appointed under section 24 or on any other
specified person (and a function conferred may, in particular, be—
(i)a power, or duty, to exercise a discretion;
(ii)a power to give directions or orders, whether written or oral);
(b)provide for or enable the requisition or confiscation of property
(with or without compensation);
(c)provide for or enable the destruction of property, animal life or
plant life (with or without compensation);
(d)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, movement to or from a
specified place;
(e)require, or enable the requirement of, movement to or from a specified
place;
(f)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, assemblies of specified kinds,
at specified places or at specified times;
(g)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, travel at specified times;
(h)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, other specified activities;
(i)create an offence of—
(i)failing to comply with a provision of the regulations;
(ii)failing to comply with a direction or order given or made under the
regulations;
(j)disapply or modify an enactment or a provision made under or by virtue
of an enactment;
(k)require a person or body to act in performance of a function (whether
the function is conferred by the regulations or otherwise and whether or
not the regulations also make provision for remuneration or compensation);
(l)enable the Defence Council to authorise the deployment of Her
Majesty’s armed forces;
(m)make provision (which may include conferring powers in relation to
property) for facilitating any deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(n)confer jurisdiction on a court or tribunal (which may include a
tribunal established by the regulations);
(o)make provision which has effect in relation to, or to anything done in—
(i)an area of the territorial sea,
(ii)an area within British fishery limits, or
(iii)an area of the continental shelf;
(iii)obstructing a person in the performance of a function under or by
virtue of the regulations;
(p)make provision which applies generally or only in specified
circumstances or for a specified purpose;
(q)make different provision for different circumstances or purposes.
(4)In subsection (3) “specified” means specified by, or to be specified
in accordance with, the regulations.
(5)A person making emergency regulations must have regard to the
importance of ensuring that Parliament, the High Court and the Court of
Session are able to conduct proceedings in connection with—
(a)the regulations, or
(b)action taken under the regulations.

UNQUOTE

critcher[_2_] December 30th 09 09:59 PM

BBC Con bias
 

"Enzo Matrix" wrote in message
...
Martin Jay wrote:
Con leader goes on fun run:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/8432439.stm.

Is it really a news item?

Current headlines at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/default.stm:

Briton told of execution timing


He wasn't a Briton. He was a British national of Pakistani origin.

--
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

critcher said..........................

wot a bunch of divs




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