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[email protected] December 21st 09 06:27 PM

The Great British Public
 
Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?

My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please. I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.

Bill

Roger Mills December 21st 09 06:31 PM

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?

My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please. I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.

Bill


A perfectly reasonable request - they don't say *which* Christmas! g
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Ian Jackson[_2_] December 21st 09 09:47 PM

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In message , Roger Mills
writes
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?

My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please. I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.

Bill


A perfectly reasonable request - they don't say *which* Christmas! g


Even though a problem had first started to manifest itself on Monday,
the 'traditional' time for reporting a cable TV fault was usually 4.30pm
on Friday.
--
Ian

IanT December 21st 09 10:07 PM

The Great British Public
 

" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?

My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please. I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.

Bill


The simple answer is that he just wants normal TV. Maybe he does not
understand SKY - not everyone does. He might have complained before
and not got anywhere, but has been very patient up to now. His request
is not unreasonable providing he is using a digital freeview box or a
suitable TV and is not confusing analogue switch-off with an aerial fault.
Maybe it would take someone to explain things in plain English to him.
Would he be able to use one of the freesat boxes for example. He might
go for that as he could be worried about huge costs each month with SKY.
Maybe you need to be a bit more sympathetic and understanding towards
people. His request is not that outrageous.
Who did the work that left him without any reception on his digital box or
TV?



Clint Sharp December 21st 09 11:02 PM

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In message
,
" writes
Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?

My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please.

Plug him in a Sky FTA box. Tell him it's a digital box.
I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.

Good luck with that, see you in court.

Bill


--
Clint Sharp

[email protected] December 22nd 09 01:35 AM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 21, 9:07*pm, "IanT" wrote:
" wrote in message

...

Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?


My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please. I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.


Bill


The simple answer is that he just wants normal TV. *Maybe he does not
understand SKY - not everyone does. *

You've missed the point.

He might have complained before
and not got anywhere, but has been very patient up to now.

I rung him this afternoon and gently quizzed him. He said he
complained today for the first time because he wanted a good picture
on the telly for Christmas.

*His request
is not unreasonable providing he is using a digital freeview box or a
suitable TV and is not confusing analogue switch-off with an aerial fault..

I went though all the obvious things with him on the phone.

Maybe it would take someone to explain things in plain English to him.
Would he be able to use one of the freesat boxes for example.

He was unaware of Freesat, but when I suggested it as a possible quick
fix he said that he wasn't prepared to but a receiver.

*He might
go for that as he could be worried about huge costs each month with SKY.
Maybe you need to be a bit more sympathetic and understanding towards
people.

No-one could be more sympathetic and understanding than me. I am
renowned for it.

*His request is not that outrageous.
His attitude was outrageous. His request was unrealistic, although as
it happens I intend to call on him tomorrow just to see what's what.
The building is two years old and I've never had another complaint
from it, so I have no idea what the situation is. It the problem is
simple I'll sort it, otherwise I will be writing to the agent and
there will be a delay of several weeks.

Who did the work that left him without any reception on his digital box or
TV?

He won't have 'no reception', because he wouldn't have put up with it
for so long. It will turn out that he has a few channels missing or
something. Tomorrow I'll find out. I'll also find out who the
installer was, but don't jump to the conclusion that they are to
blame. There could be a genuine fault caused by equipment failure, or
vandalism, or a change in reception conditions (it's in a city with
big buildings nearby).

Bill


Richard Tobin December 22nd 09 02:48 AM

The Great British Public
 
In article ,
wrote:

Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?


Because he's found it annoying, but for christmas it's *extra*
annoying. Quite likely someone's started nagging him about it. He
hasn't been getting what he paid for, and he hasn't thought through
the situation properly. His attitude is unreasonable, but quite
understandable. All you can do is explain things to him, and hope
he sees sense.

-- Richard
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Brian Gaff December 22nd 09 08:40 AM

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Pressure of life. Probably the only time they watch is over the holidays and
more than that, do not worry for themselves, but the inlaws are coming and I
dont want them to know I get a crappy signal. I expect if they cannot get it
working they will hide the tv and pretend to be a trendy back to radio
type.

Brian

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Email:
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________


" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?

My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please. I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.

Bill




[email protected] December 22nd 09 11:46 AM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 22, 1:48*am, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?


Because he's found it annoying, but for christmas it's *extra*
annoying. *Quite likely someone's started nagging him about it. *He
hasn't been getting what he paid for, and he hasn't thought through
the situation properly. *His attitude is unreasonable, but quite
understandable. *All you can do is explain things to him, and hope
he sees sense.

-- Richard


Yes, I think that's one explanation for these daft last-minute
Christmas calls. If he'd simply said that he had a problem though,
without issuing threats, he would have met with a more sympathetic
response.

Bill

[email protected] December 22nd 09 11:54 AM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 22, 7:40*am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Pressure of life. Probably the only time they watch is over the holidays and
more than that, do not worry for themselves, but the inlaws are coming and I
dont want them to know I get a crappy signal.

Brian


Yes, that's what happens.

Now, this morning I have had a message from a housing association. It
seems that they have just moved four mentally handicapped people into
a bungalow, only to discover that there is no TV reception. None
whatsoever. 'I know it's a bit late, but if you could possibly help
out we'd be grateful'. A very different approach, and in fact the
problem is genuinely rather urgent, as you'll gather. Yes the
association should have checked, but they didn't. That isn't the fault
of the residents. The problem is that the roof has 6" of snow,
apparently. I'll go round and have a look at the place though.

Bill

Peter Duncanson December 22nd 09 12:11 PM

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:46:22 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Dec 22, 1:48*am, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?


Because he's found it annoying, but for christmas it's *extra*
annoying. *Quite likely someone's started nagging him about it. *He
hasn't been getting what he paid for, and he hasn't thought through
the situation properly. *His attitude is unreasonable, but quite
understandable. *All you can do is explain things to him, and hope
he sees sense.

-- Richard


Yes, I think that's one explanation for these daft last-minute
Christmas calls. If he'd simply said that he had a problem though,
without issuing threats, he would have met with a more sympathetic
response.

Some people seem to think that they need to be aggressive to have their
problem taken seriously and dealt with.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Terry Casey[_2_] December 22nd 09 03:50 PM

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In article ,
says...

In message , Roger Mills
writes
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
wrote:

Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?

My television reception has been very bad for three months at least. I
do not have Sky and I dont intend to get it. All the others have it
but I don't want it so you must make the aerial work please. I want to
have this working properly for christmas and if you cannot arrange for
this I will have it done myself and subtract the cost from the service
account.

Bill


A perfectly reasonable request - they don't say *which* Christmas! g


Even though a problem had first started to manifest itself on Monday,
the 'traditional' time for reporting a cable TV fault was usually 4.30pm
on Friday.


In the days when radiograms were massive pieces of furniture usually
bought because "mum liked the cabinet" and rarely used, there would
usually be a spate of requests to repair radiograms in the last few days
before Christmas, in time for the holiday!

When asked what the fault was, the answer was often "I can't remember -
it packed up during the New Year's Eve party ...!"

--

Terry

[email protected] December 23rd 09 03:08 AM

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On Dec 22, 11:11*am, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:46:22 -0800 (PST), "





wrote:
On Dec 22, 1:48*am, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
In article ,


wrote:
Can anyone tell me why a resident in a flats complex should suffer
poor TV reception for three months, then report it in an email on the
21st Dec with the following words?


Because he's found it annoying, but for christmas it's *extra*
annoying. *Quite likely someone's started nagging him about it. *He
hasn't been getting what he paid for, and he hasn't thought through
the situation properly. *His attitude is unreasonable, but quite
understandable. *All you can do is explain things to him, and hope
he sees sense.


-- Richard


Yes, I think that's one explanation for these daft last-minute
Christmas calls. If he'd simply said that he had a problem though,
without issuing threats, he would have met with a more sympathetic
response.


Some people seem to think that they need to be aggressive to have their
problem taken seriously and dealt with.


Yes, and they need to learn that service providers are human and react
badly, deliberately giving the minimum service.

Bill

[email protected] December 23rd 09 03:25 AM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 22, 10:54*am, "
wrote:
On Dec 22, 7:40*am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:

Pressure of life. Probably the only time they watch is over the holidays and
more than that, do not worry for themselves, but the inlaws are coming and I
dont want them to know I get a crappy signal.


Brian


Yes, that's what happens.

Now, this morning I have had a message from a housing association. It
seems that they have just moved four mentally handicapped people into
a bungalow, only to discover that there is no TV reception. None
whatsoever. 'I know it's a bit late, but if you could possibly help
out we'd be grateful'. A very different approach, and in fact the
problem is genuinely rather urgent, as you'll gather. Yes the
association should have checked, but they didn't. That isn't the fault
of the residents. The problem is that the roof has 6" of snow,
apparently. I'll go round and have a look at the place though.

Bill


Here I am again. I couldn't help the aggressive bloke much. The
building had a loft but reception inside it was impossible. The aerial
was outside but couldn't be seen from the ground and certainly
couldn't be reached with a ladder. It gave the impression of having
fallen over. Satellite reception was fine so I advised Mr Aggro that
he should forget about his war with the management agent and get a
Freesat box, for the sake of enjoying Christmas. I'll be along in the
New Year with a cherry picker but until then he needs Freesat. I
seriously think he might ruin the family Christmas on principle. The
kids were wailing when I left. Mum was tight lipped.

The 'living in the community' place was quick and easy. It's a place
where you can spit on the main TX, so I just fitted a loft aerial.
Then replaced the flylead and the VCR-TV flylead (both faulty), re-
tuned, and drank the tea. Much happiness amongst the residents and I
got a kiss! Back in the New Year to fit outlets in the bedrooms.

Tomorrow I will visit a house where I installed a TV system earlier
this year. The system has ten in-house channels (CCTV etc). A new TV
set was bought the other day, and installed by someone from the retail
chain. It seems that the TV system is 'overloading' the TV set 'with
channels', and this is why the picture is 'dark'.

Bill

Clint Sharp December 23rd 09 09:29 AM

The Great British Public
 
In message
,
" writes
I'll be along in the
New Year with a cherry picker but until then he needs Freesat. I
seriously think he might ruin the family Christmas on principle. The
kids were wailing when I left. Mum was tight lipped.

He's a prat, I have friends who do property management and they get
idiots like that all the time. At least you explained the options to him
and IMHO he's probably better off with Freesat anyway, especially if
he's got an HD telly and gets the correct box.

The 'living in the community' place was quick and easy. It's a place
where you can spit on the main TX, so I just fitted a loft aerial.
Then replaced the flylead and the VCR-TV flylead (both faulty), re-
tuned, and drank the tea. Much happiness amongst the residents and I
got a kiss! Back in the New Year to fit outlets in the bedrooms.

I love jobs like that, it's really nice when people let you know you're
appreciated. Like you I tend to dig my heels in when people get arsey
(What, you didn't back it up anywhere and you've lost six months work?
Shame that, shouldn't have acted the big man taking the **** in front of
your colleagues then should you...)

Tomorrow I will visit a house where I installed a TV system earlier
this year. The system has ten in-house channels (CCTV etc). A new TV
set was bought the other day, and installed by someone from the retail
chain. It seems that the TV system is 'overloading' the TV set 'with
channels', and this is why the picture is 'dark'.


Hehe, great fun.

Bill


--
Clint Sharp

J G Miller[_4_] December 23rd 09 03:54 PM

The Great British Public
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:08:21 -0800, wrote:

Yes, and they need to learn that service providers are human and react
badly, deliberately giving the minimum service.


Which conveniently overlooks the fact that many (but NOT ALL) service
providers are only motivated to provide the least service possible in
order to maximize profits.

And sometimes the employees of these outfits are caught in the middle ...

jamie powell December 23rd 09 05:50 PM

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Bill Pikey Gob****e Wright altruistically and heroically 'saves Christmas' at
the last minute for a multitude of people who are nowhere near as good as he is!
You heard it here first!



Alan White December 23rd 09 06:55 PM

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:50:06 -0000, "jamie powell"
wrote:

Bill Pikey Gob****e Wright altruistically and heroically 'saves Christmas' at
the last minute for a multitude of people who are nowhere near as good as he is!
You heard it here first!


Do you have to poison every thread in which you appear?
--
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Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
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[email protected] December 23rd 09 08:18 PM

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On Dec 23, 2:54*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:08:21 -0800, wrote:
Yes, and they need to learn that service providers are human and react
badly, deliberately giving the minimum service.


Which conveniently overlooks the fact that many (but NOT ALL) service
providers are only motivated to provide the least service possible in
order to maximize profits.

And sometimes the employees of these outfits are caught in the middle ...


I was talking about human interactions, not about large corporations.
The fact is, if you ring up and give the innocent girl on the desk
hell she won't move heaven and earth to solve your problem. She'll
just do it by the book, and any discretion she has will go against
you. I'm advocating decent good manners and respect for people as
human beings.

Bill

Paulg0[_3_] December 23rd 09 08:27 PM

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"jamie powell" wrote in message
...

Bill Pikey Gob****e Wright altruistically and heroically 'saves Christmas'
at the last minute for a multitude of people who are nowhere near as good
as he is!
You heard it here first!


Tosser...... I just reformatted my computer and must have lost my killfile

Plonk!



[email protected] December 23rd 09 08:33 PM

The Great British Public
 
Tomorrow I will visit a house where I installed a TV system earlier
this year. The system has ten in-house channels (CCTV etc). A new TV
set was bought the other day, and installed by someone from the retail
chain. It seems that the TV system is 'overloading' the TV set 'with
channels', and this is why the picture is 'dark'.


The signal at the outlet was absolutely fine. Not strong, but
perfectly adequate. The TV set found two muxes only and reception was
unwatchable due to very bad pixelation. The customer went back to the
shop with the TV set. The man in the shop connected to set to his own
aerial and it worked perfectly. I had warned the customer that this
might happen, so he rung me from the shop. I told the shop bloke that
I had checked the signals at the house blah blah blah. I told him that
although the set might work on a strong signal it needed to work on a
normal strength one as well. The shop wouldn't give the customer a
different telly or a refund, so he left the set in the shop. At home
he rung me again and I suggested he try another set in the room where
the faulty one had been installed. This he did and of course it
worked, so he rung the shop and told them. At close of play they were
still refusing a swap or a refund.

I went to a block of flats today where reception was affected by
obvious hum bars. It's a very comman distribution amplifier fault, but
I couldn't find the amp! There were five stairways with steel covers
over the voids beneath. I spend 90 mins getting these off but there
was no amp in any of the voids. The block has a strange design with
bedrooms in the roof. There's obviously a small roofspace but no-one
had an access hatch! There are no communal areas, and there is no
communal mains meter. Maybe the TV signals come from another block. I
asked a few homecoming residents and no-one in the other blocks had
reception problems. This one will run and run. I'll write to all the
residents and find out if any of the oldies know anything.

Bill

J G Miller[_4_] December 23rd 09 08:38 PM

The Great British Public
 
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:18:35 -0800, wrote:

I was talking about human interactions, not about large corporations.


To which my comment about the employees being "caught in the middle"
was made.

I'm advocating decent good manners and respect for people as human
beings.


No disagreement there, and your advocacy is to be commended.

[email protected] December 23rd 09 08:39 PM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 23, 8:29*am, Clint Sharp wrote:
I
seriously think he might ruin the family Christmas on principle. The
kids were wailing when I left. Mum was tight lipped.


He's a prat, I have friends who do property management and they get
idiots like that all the time. At least you explained the options to him
and IMHO he's probably better off with Freesat anyway, especially if
he's got an HD telly and gets the correct box.

I told he he should get an HD box but I don't know if he took any
notice.


The 'living in the community' place was quick and easy. It's a place
where you can spit on the main TX, so I just fitted a loft aerial.
Then replaced the flylead and the VCR-TV flylead (both faulty), re-
tuned, and drank the tea. Much happiness amongst the residents and I
got a kiss! Back in the New Year to fit outlets in the bedrooms.

Yes, it makes all the difference.


I love jobs like that, it's really nice when people let you know you're
appreciated. Like you I tend to dig my heels in when people get arsey
(What, you didn't back it up anywhere and you've lost six months work?
Shame that, shouldn't have acted the big man taking the **** in front of
your colleagues then should you...)

I like it!

Bill

Mike Thomas[_4_] December 23rd 09 09:29 PM

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Alan White wrote:

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:50:06 -0000, "jamie powell"

snip

Do you have to poison every thread in which you appear?


That the way "Jamie" is. Not his real name, of course. You could delete
his comment before replying as a courtesy to those of us with killfiles.

Although admittedly, it was interesting when somebody recently quoted his
comment about the grief he'd got at school when he came out - and how he
feels bad about the resultant ruining of people's lives. It's the usual
case of the abused becoming the abuser. The bigots that hurt him in school
did quite some job on him, ensuring that people would be repelled by him for
ever after. It's sad, but that's the way that assholes often win bigtime -
they made him their sick reflection.


Clint Sharp December 23rd 09 09:38 PM

The Great British Public
 
In message
,
" writes
I told he he should get an HD box but I don't know if he took any
notice.

Like hell he will have and it will still be rumbling on in the new
year..


(What, you didn't back it up anywhere and you've lost six months work?
Shame that, shouldn't have acted the big man taking the **** in front of
your colleagues then should you...)

I like it!

Sad thing is, this guy had been an arse before.

What made it all worthwhile though was when I got his laptop back to the
workshop I ejected the DVD drive (my bad, we are meant to check the
drives before we uplift the machine for 'security and confidentiality
reasons', I was so annoyed I forgot) only to find an original copy of a
film, entertainingly titled 'Swallow my squirt 2'.

Of course, being an honest kind of person, I had to return it to him.

So I dropped it off at his office reception, in a clear A4 document
wallet with his name clearly marked on it. So it didn't get lost
anywhere.

Oddly, last time I visited, he wasn't working there anymore..

Bill


--
Clint Sharp

Adrian[_3_] December 23rd 09 09:51 PM

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Alan White wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:50:06 -0000, "jamie powell"
wrote:


Do you have to poison every thread in which you appear?


Why don't you killfile the little toe rag as others have done? At least
don't quote its posts.
--
"All religions bear traces of the fact that they arose during the
intellectual immaturity of the human race, before it had learned the
obligations to speak the truth. Not one of them makes it the duty of its God
to be truthful and understandable in his communications"
Friedrich Nietzsche



Graham.[_2_] December 24th 09 01:42 AM

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--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%
"Mike Thomas" wrote in message ...
Alan White wrote:

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:50:06 -0000, "jamie powell"

snip

Do you have to poison every thread in which you appear?


That the way "Jamie" is. Not his real name, of course. You could delete
his comment before replying as a courtesy to those of us with killfiles.

Although admittedly, it was interesting when somebody recently quoted his
comment about the grief he'd got at school when he came out - and how he
feels bad about the resultant ruining of people's lives. It's the usual
case of the abused becoming the abuser. The bigots that hurt him in school
did quite some job on him, ensuring that people would be repelled by him for
ever after. It's sad, but that's the way that assholes often win bigtime -
they made him their sick reflection.




Ian December 24th 09 01:50 AM

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In message , Alan White
writes
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:50:06 -0000, "jamie powell"
wrote:

Bill Pikey Gob****e Wright altruistically and heroically 'saves Christmas' at
the last minute for a multitude of people who are nowhere near as good
as he is!
You heard it here first!


Do you have to poison every thread in which you appear?


He only appears to me when someone I haven't killfiled quotes him.
--
Ian

Graham.[_2_] December 24th 09 01:54 AM

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"Mike Thomas" wrote in message ...
Alan White wrote:

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:50:06 -0000, "jamie powell"

snip

Do you have to poison every thread in which you appear?


That the way "Jamie" is. Not his real name, of course. You could delete
his comment before replying as a courtesy to those of us with killfiles.



It's unimportant, but I am convinced Jamie Powell is his real identity.
He used to post anonymously; the circumstances of the change made it appear to me as
some kind of cathartic release.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Mike Thomas[_4_] December 24th 09 07:41 AM

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Graham. wrote:

"Mike Thomas" wrote
That the way "Jamie" is. Not his real name, of course. You could delete
his comment before replying as a courtesy to those of us with killfiles.


It's unimportant, but I am convinced Jamie Powell is his real identity.
He used to post anonymously; the circumstances of the change made it
appear to me as some kind of cathartic release.


Possibly, but during the abuse that I saw him spewing, before I added him to
the killfile, he made mention of "anonymous cowards" on this group, *then*
he added the "Powell", and *then* he was caught out using the new anonymous
identity "Just another thicko". He even altered the newreader app to try to
hide it but missed a problem with the anonymizing feature of the news-
server. It seems that he's a dedicated nasty piece of work now, and is
perfectly happy to use lies and deceit to further his main purpose in Usenet
which is being abusive.


Alan White December 24th 09 09:41 AM

The Great British Public
 
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:50:13 +0000, Ian wrote:

He only appears to me when someone I haven't killfiled quotes him.


Sorry, people, I should have known better.
--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

[email protected] December 24th 09 06:28 PM

The Great British Public
 
Another Christmas panic:

The lady had complained to the landlord that she had no TV reception.
I rung her. The conversation was roughly as follows:
"Could you describe the fault to me? Firstly, is is satellite or
terrestrial reception or both?"
“Oh I haven't got satellite. It's the DVD. It keeps stopping half way
through, and it’s a special one I bought for a seven year old who’s
spending Christmas here.”
“What happens if you try to watch BBC1?”
“Oh, that’s all right.”
“What about BBC2?”
“Yes that’s all right.”
“ITV? Channel 4? Channel5?”
“Oh, they’re fine. It’s just that the DVD stops half way through and
it’s a real shame because I bought for a seven year old who’s [blah
blah].”
“Well, it sounds to me as if the problem lies with the DVD player.”
“Yes I’ve been thinking about it and I agree with you.”
“It’s lucky I rung you before I drove to Derby to visit you.”
“Err, yes, I was going to ring you but I . . .err . . .
didn’t . . .err, sorry.”
“Don’t worry about it. Why don’t you go to the supermarket and get a
£20 DVD player?”
“Oh, I never thought of that. I will. Thank you.”
“That’s all right. All part of the service.”

Incidentally, what worries me is that the woman teaches Technology.
What chance have the kids got? Still it could be worse. She could
teach Logic.

Bill

[email protected] December 24th 09 06:39 PM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 23, 4:50*pm, "jamie powell" wrote:
Bill Pikey Gob****e Wright altruistically and heroically 'saves Christmas' at
the last minute for a multitude of people who are nowhere near as good as he is!
You heard it here first!


I can quite understand that from your standpoint, Jamie, an altruistic
act must seem very unusual and well worth boasting about. But most of
us are happy with ourselves and that lets us be happy with others, so
we perform little acts of kindness all the time without really
thinking about it. It's just the way normal people behave all the
time. It's something that makes life enjoyable, and I'm so sorry that
this is beyond your comprehension.

However I can't see anything atruistic or heroic about simply doing
the job you are paid for.

Incidentally my record in the pre-Christmas period for getting
people's tellys back on has been abysmal. I have had one block where
it turned out that a cherrypicker was needed and there wasn't time to
order one, one where we are now attempting to get planning permission
for an outside aerial, and one where I couldn't find the amplifier!

Bill

Graham.[_2_] December 24th 09 09:31 PM

The Great British Public
 


" wrote in message
...
On Dec 23, 4:50 pm, "jamie powell" wrote:
Bill Pikey Gob****e Wright altruistically and heroically 'saves Christmas' at
the last minute for a multitude of people who are nowhere near as good as he is!
You heard it here first!


I can quite understand that from your standpoint, Jamie, an altruistic
act must seem very unusual and well worth boasting about. But most of
us are happy with ourselves and that lets us be happy with others, so
we perform little acts of kindness all the time without really
thinking about it. It's just the way normal people behave all the
time. It's something that makes life enjoyable, and I'm so sorry that
this is beyond your comprehension.

However I can't see anything atruistic or heroic about simply doing
the job you are paid for.

Incidentally my record in the pre-Christmas period for getting
people's tellys back on has been abysmal. I have had one block where
it turned out that a cherrypicker was needed and there wasn't time to
order one, one where we are now attempting to get planning permission
for an outside aerial, and one where I couldn't find the amplifier!

Bill

Self deprecation, a concept that Jamie has much experience.


I think that's the right expression.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Max Demian December 24th 09 10:58 PM

The Great British Public
 
" wrote in message
...
Another Christmas panic:

The lady had complained to the landlord that she had no TV reception.
I rung her. The conversation was roughly as follows:
"Could you describe the fault to me? Firstly, is is satellite or
terrestrial reception or both?"
“Oh I haven't got satellite. It's the DVD. It keeps stopping half way
through, and it’s a special one I bought for a seven year old who’s
spending Christmas here.”
“What happens if you try to watch BBC1?”
“Oh, that’s all right.”
“What about BBC2?”
“Yes that’s all right.”
“ITV? Channel 4? Channel5?”
“Oh, they’re fine. It’s just that the DVD stops half way through and
it’s a real shame because I bought for a seven year old who’s [blah
blah].”
“Well, it sounds to me as if the problem lies with the DVD player.”
“Yes I’ve been thinking about it and I agree with you.”
“It’s lucky I rung you before I drove to Derby to visit you.”
“Err, yes, I was going to ring you but I . . .err . . .
didn’t . . .err, sorry.”
“Don’t worry about it. Why don’t you go to the supermarket and get a
£20 DVD player?”
“Oh, I never thought of that. I will. Thank you.”
“That’s all right. All part of the service.”

Incidentally, what worries me is that the woman teaches Technology.
What chance have the kids got? Still it could be worse. She could
teach Logic.

How do you know it isn't a faulty DVD? You should have asked her to try a
different disc.

--
Max Demian



[email protected] December 25th 09 02:13 AM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 24, 8:31*pm, "Graham." wrote:
" wrote in message
Incidentally my record in the pre-Christmas period for getting
people's tellys back on has been abysmal. I have had one block where
it turned out that a cherrypicker was needed and there wasn't time to
order one, one where we are now attempting to get planning permission
for an outside aerial, and one where I couldn't find the amplifier!

Bill

Self deprecation, a concept that Jamie has much experience.

I think that's the right expression.


Ha! I'm just being realistic. The fact is (and I'm sure many people in
this group will agree) it's very disagreeable to walk away from a job
without having sorted it out properly, even when circumstances make it
impossible.

Bill

[email protected] December 25th 09 02:14 AM

The Great British Public
 
On Dec 24, 9:58*pm, "Max Demian" wrote:
" wrote in message

...
Another Christmas panic:

The lady had complained to the landlord that she had no TV reception.
I rung her. The conversation was roughly as follows:
"Could you describe the fault to me? Firstly, is is satellite or
terrestrial reception or both?"
“Oh I haven't got satellite. It's the DVD. It keeps stopping half way
through, and it’s a special one I bought for a seven year old who’s
spending Christmas here.”
“What happens if you try to watch BBC1?”
“Oh, that’s all right.”
“What about BBC2?”
“Yes that’s all right.”
“ITV? Channel 4? Channel5?”
“Oh, they’re fine. It’s just that the DVD stops half way through and
it’s a real shame because I bought for a seven year old who’s [blah
blah].”
“Well, it sounds to me as if the problem lies with the DVD player.”
“Yes I’ve been thinking about it and I agree with you.”
“It’s lucky I rung you before I drove to Derby to visit you.”
“Err, yes, I was going to ring you but I . . .err . . .
didn’t . . .err, sorry.”
“Don’t worry about it. Why don’t you go to the supermarket and get a
£20 DVD player?”
“Oh, I never thought of that. I will. Thank you.”
“That’s all right. All part of the service.”

Incidentally, what worries me is that the woman teaches Technology.
What chance have the kids got? Still it could be worse. She could
teach Logic.

How do you know it isn't a faulty DVD? You should have asked her to try a
different disc.


My account was abbreviated. She mentioned that the same thing had been
happening for a while.

Bill

Dickie mint December 30th 09 01:31 PM

The Great British Public
 
wrote:
....................
The signal at the outlet was absolutely fine. Not strong, but
perfectly adequate. The TV set found two muxes only and reception was
unwatchable due to very bad pixelation. The customer went back to the
shop with the TV set. The man in the shop connected to set to his own
aerial and it worked perfectly. I had warned the customer that this
might happen, so he rung me from the shop. I told the shop bloke that
I had checked the signals at the house blah blah blah. I told him that
although the set might work on a strong signal it needed to work on a
normal strength one as well. The shop wouldn't give the customer a
different telly or a refund, so he left the set in the shop. At home
he rung me again and I suggested he try another set in the room where
the faulty one had been installed. This he did and of course it
worked, so he rung the shop and told them. At close of play they were
still refusing a swap or a refund.


You could look even better in his view by pointing out that the Sale Of
Goods Act requires stuff to be "fit for purpose". Clearly this TV is
not. Sounds like a manufacturing design fault, but the SoGA is consumer
v retailer. Wonder if the TV had a digital tick....?

Suggesting the customer make a phone call to the local council Trading
Standards dept should sort out the shop!

Happy and Prosperous New Year and looking forward to many more Riggers
Tales,
Richard

Paul Ratcliffe December 30th 09 02:37 PM

The Great British Public
 
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:39:04 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 23, 4:50*pm, "The Runt" wrote:
Bill Pikey Gob****e Wright altruistically and heroically 'saves Christmas' at
the last minute for a multitude of people who are nowhere near as good as he is!


Incidentally my record in the pre-Christmas period for getting
people's tellys back on has been abysmal.


I suppose it'll be accusing you of ruining everybody's Christmas as well
then...


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