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We have just received a Bush S632F (I think the 32 part will refer to
the size of the screen, it is 32") there seems to be a bit of a problem
when viewing some channels (may well be on them all I have not run tests
on all channels). The problem takes the form of after images (most
notably on Fiver).
Could this be a response problem (response time 6.5 mS) or is it
more likely to be trying to fit a 4:3 signal onto a widescreen, or is it
likely to be the signal supplied by Virginmedia and we just have to get
used to the 'better' screen showing up how bad VM's signal is? Wife
notices this more than I do (she watches much more telly).
Does anyone have this particular set and noticed after image problems
but reduced these (or even negated them) with an adjustment of the
screen parameters?

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When you say after image, do you mean its smearing, or is it kind of leaving
copies of things that stay still like ghosts and fade away.
Smearing is probably screen, but the other I heard someone talking about in
the post office the other day, and they sent the set back and the new one
did not do it.
No idea how they got that fault!
Of course, no idea what make it was, but was just earwigging in the absense
of anything else to do.
Brian

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We have just received a Bush S632F (I think the 32 part will refer to
the size of the screen, it is 32") there seems to be a bit of a problem
when viewing some channels (may well be on them all I have not run tests
on all channels). The problem takes the form of after images (most
notably on Fiver).
Could this be a response problem (response time 6.5 mS) or is it more
likely to be trying to fit a 4:3 signal onto a widescreen, or is it likely
to be the signal supplied by Virginmedia and we just have to get used to
the 'better' screen showing up how bad VM's signal is? Wife notices this
more than I do (she watches much more telly).
Does anyone have this particular set and noticed after image problems
but reduced these (or even negated them) with an adjustment of the screen
parameters?

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Thanks Brian
It is kind of a ghost image following almost immediately behind
the main image this basically only happens with an object moving rapidly
side to side. Looks very much like the mouse trail image behind the
cursor. This effect is what made me think it might be some response
time problem, but this unit has a much quicker response than old LCD
monitors for computer systems. I must admit the idea of a faulty unit
hadn;t crossed my mind bur it is certainly an avenue to explore

Brian Gaff wrote:
When you say after image, do you mean its smearing, or is it kind of leaving
copies of things that stay still like ghosts and fade away.
Smearing is probably screen, but the other I heard someone talking about in
the post office the other day, and they sent the set back and the new one
did not do it.
No idea how they got that fault!
Of course, no idea what make it was, but was just earwigging in the absense
of anything else to do.
Brian

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"soup" wrote in message
om...
Thanks Brian
It is kind of a ghost image following almost immediately behind the
main image this basically only happens with an object moving rapidly side
to side. Looks very much like the mouse trail image behind the cursor.
This effect is what made me think it might be some response time problem,
but this unit has a much quicker response than old LCD monitors for
computer systems. I must admit the idea of a faulty unit hadn;t crossed my
mind bur it is certainly an avenue to explore

Brian Gaff wrote:
When you say after image, do you mean its smearing, or is it kind of
leaving copies of things that stay still like ghosts and fade away.
Smearing is probably screen, but the other I heard someone talking about
in the post office the other day, and they sent the set back and the new
one did not do it.
No idea how they got that fault!
Of course, no idea what make it was, but was just earwigging in the
absense of anything else to do.
Brian


The problem is problem the response. But if you buy a bush don't expect a
good picture. the cheap sets are very much a what you get is what you see.

There are some good ones but quality control is not good so to get 2 the
same is unusual.

I would send it back and get a proper brand. and see the picture in store
with some difficult images. i.e. dark and contrasts. as well as balanced.
( most sets do balanced ok it is the contrasts that tend to show the
problems) .

You may need a plasma to get the results you want. the life of a TV and the
amount of time spent watching it in my opinion you have to get the best you
can. a few extra quid will pay dividends.

Gary

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Gary wrote:


The problem is problem the response. But if you buy a bush don't expect
a good picture. the cheap sets are very much a what you get is what you
see.

The picture is excellent, just this issue with the "Billy Whizz" speed
marks.


I would send it back and get a proper brand. and see the picture in
store with some difficult images. i.e. dark and contrasts. as well as
balanced. ( most sets do balanced ok it is the contrasts that tend to
show the problems) .

Unfortunately as it was a present (her mother) we can't easily swap it
for something else . Maybe send it back (to Argos) get another one if
that is the same we will have to bite the bullet get the money and put
that towards a 'decent' set .

Thanks for the ideas Gary.

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Argh Plasma.. interference all over the place... Power hungry and limited
life as well?
Luckily, I no longer need to worry about pictures, but if the smearing is
bad enough to see, then I'd say its got a problem, maybe not the screen, but
some bad or dodgy component.

Brian

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Thanks Brian
It is kind of a ghost image following almost immediately behind the
main image this basically only happens with an object moving rapidly side
to side. Looks very much like the mouse trail image behind the cursor.
This effect is what made me think it might be some response time problem,
but this unit has a much quicker response than old LCD monitors for
computer systems. I must admit the idea of a faulty unit hadn;t crossed
my mind bur it is certainly an avenue to explore

Brian Gaff wrote:
When you say after image, do you mean its smearing, or is it kind of
leaving copies of things that stay still like ghosts and fade away.
Smearing is probably screen, but the other I heard someone talking
about in the post office the other day, and they sent the set back and
the new one did not do it.
No idea how they got that fault!
Of course, no idea what make it was, but was just earwigging in the
absense of anything else to do.
Brian


The problem is problem the response. But if you buy a bush don't expect a
good picture. the cheap sets are very much a what you get is what you see.

There are some good ones but quality control is not good so to get 2 the
same is unusual.

I would send it back and get a proper brand. and see the picture in store
with some difficult images. i.e. dark and contrasts. as well as balanced.
( most sets do balanced ok it is the contrasts that tend to show the
problems) .

You may need a plasma to get the results you want. the life of a TV and
the amount of time spent watching it in my opinion you have to get the
best you can. a few extra quid will pay dividends.

Gary

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soup wrote:
We have just received a Bush S632F (I think the 32 part will refer to
the size of the screen, it is 32") there seems to be a bit of a problem
when viewing some channels (may well be on them all I have not run tests
on all channels). The problem takes the form of after images (most
notably on Fiver).
Could this be a response problem (response time 6.5 mS) or is it
more likely to be trying to fit a 4:3 signal onto a widescreen, or is it
likely to be the signal supplied by Virginmedia and we just have to get
used to the 'better' screen showing up how bad VM's signal is? Wife
notices this more than I do (she watches much more telly).
Does anyone have this particular set and noticed after image problems
but reduced these (or even negated them) with an adjustment of the
screen parameters?


We are sending this back and getting the money. Was on the 'phone
to them, after a protracted call to their 'technical support'
department, during which it was decided the TV was at fault and it
would be repaired or replaced. I opted for a replacement as it should
have been brand new not a repaired unit . Then the real kicker they
didn't have any in stock so I was to 'phone back in five days, at the
mention of five days before we could even order the exchange wife went
mental and demanded her money back, without being rude or obnoxious to
the wage slave on the 'phone. We are putting the extra to it and
getting a 'better' TV . We shall see them in operation this time rather
than just accepting what was being bought (by MIL) for us .

Thinking of getting this:-
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yevj6qh

is this a reasonable unit (for the price )or are there known caveats
with Panasonic units

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In article ,
Mikeapollo scribeth thus
Brian Gaff wrote:

You may need a plasma to get the results you want. the life of a TV and
the amount of time spent watching it in my opinion you have to get the
best you can. a few extra quid will pay dividends.

Argh Plasma.. interference all over the place... Power hungry and limited
life as well?

Oh I don't know... They are a little power hungry yes, but no more so than a
very large screen CRT - and at least in winter your central heating doesn't
have to work as hard :)

Emissions (interference) isn't so bad these days on a modern one either - a
MW radio is usable in the next room and lifetimes have improved over the
years somewhat (but should see you through until OLED technology becomes
both available and affordable)

I still think, presently, a modern plasma display beats _ANY_ LCD display
hands down for television viewing...



Dunno .. recently saw a Pannay Plasma against the latest Sony LCD on a
good HD source and there seems to be bu^^er all in it. Perhaps the Panny
had the -edge- on skin tones but as said nothing really...
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Tony Sayer

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In article , soup
scribeth thus
soup wrote:
We have just received a Bush S632F (I think the 32 part will refer to
the size of the screen, it is 32") there seems to be a bit of a problem
when viewing some channels (may well be on them all I have not run tests
on all channels). The problem takes the form of after images (most
notably on Fiver).
Could this be a response problem (response time 6.5 mS) or is it
more likely to be trying to fit a 4:3 signal onto a widescreen, or is it
likely to be the signal supplied by Virginmedia and we just have to get
used to the 'better' screen showing up how bad VM's signal is? Wife
notices this more than I do (she watches much more telly).
Does anyone have this particular set and noticed after image problems
but reduced these (or even negated them) with an adjustment of the
screen parameters?


We are sending this back and getting the money. Was on the 'phone
to them, after a protracted call to their 'technical support'
department, during which it was decided the TV was at fault and it
would be repaired or replaced. I opted for a replacement as it should
have been brand new not a repaired unit . Then the real kicker they
didn't have any in stock so I was to 'phone back in five days, at the
mention of five days before we could even order the exchange wife went
mental and demanded her money back, without being rude or obnoxious to
the wage slave on the 'phone. We are putting the extra to it and
getting a 'better' TV . We shall see them in operation this time rather
than just accepting what was being bought (by MIL) for us .

Thinking of getting this:-
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yevj6qh



is this a reasonable unit (for the price )or are there known caveats
with Panasonic units

Such as?..
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Tony Sayer

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tony sayer wrote:

is this a reasonable unit (for the price )or are there known caveats
with Panasonic units
Such as?..

Oh, I don't know. Maybe :-
These units are good looking but the backlight 'burns' out really
quickly giving a very dull image.
Or. These units can't really cope with a subtly varying tone in a
broadcast signal, they look alright in the shop with a cartoon playing
on a DVD, but skin-tones really show up their limitations.