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Terry Pinnell December 13th 09 01:06 PM

3D glasses?
 
Just posted this query in uk.media.tv.misc but maybe it would be more
appropriate here?

--------------------

The recent series of 3D broadcasts took me by surprise. In case they are
repeated I'd like to get some glasses.

None of the listings I saw ever mentioned these - no specification or
possible sources of supply. A quick google just now has also left me unclear,
as there appear to be several types and colour combinations.

Can anyone educate me briefly please and point me to a UK supplier of a pair
that will go over the top of my existing regular glasses?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

MickK[_3_] December 13th 09 01:15 PM

3D glasses?
 
Terry Pinnell wrote:
Just posted this query in uk.media.tv.misc but maybe it would be more
appropriate here?

--------------------

The recent series of 3D broadcasts took me by surprise. In case they are
repeated I'd like to get some glasses.

None of the listings I saw ever mentioned these - no specification or
possible sources of supply. A quick google just now has also left me unclear,
as there appear to be several types and colour combinations.

Can anyone educate me briefly please and point me to a UK supplier of a pair
that will go over the top of my existing regular glasses?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK


The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free and
they may still have some left.
MickK

Dr Zoidberg[_6_] December 13th 09 01:47 PM

3D glasses?
 
Terry Pinnell wrote:
Just posted this query in uk.media.tv.misc but maybe it would be more
appropriate here?

--------------------

The recent series of 3D broadcasts took me by surprise. In case they are
repeated I'd like to get some glasses.

None of the listings I saw ever mentioned these - no specification or
possible sources of supply. A quick google just now has also left me unclear,
as there appear to be several types and colour combinations.

Can anyone educate me briefly please and point me to a UK supplier of a pair
that will go over the top of my existing regular glasses?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Channel-4-3x-3...item20ae4778fb
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away"

Brian Gaff December 13th 09 02:58 PM

3D glasses?
 
So, what happens if you swap the colours around to the opposite eyes then?
Brian

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...
Terry Pinnell wrote:
Just posted this query in uk.media.tv.misc but maybe it would be more
appropriate here?

--------------------

The recent series of 3D broadcasts took me by surprise. In case they are
repeated I'd like to get some glasses.

None of the listings I saw ever mentioned these - no specification or
possible sources of supply. A quick google just now has also left me
unclear,
as there appear to be several types and colour combinations.

Can anyone educate me briefly please and point me to a UK supplier of a
pair
that will go over the top of my existing regular glasses?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Channel-4-3x-3...item20ae4778fb
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away"




Richard Brooks[_3_] December 13th 09 03:05 PM

3D glasses?
 
Brian Gaff said the following on 13/12/2009 13:58:
So, what happens if you swap the colours around to the opposite eyes then?
Brian


I wonder if the characters look hollowed out as things do in the full
colour side-by-side setups when the pictures are the wrong way around?

Graham.[_2_] December 13th 09 03:19 PM

3D glasses?
 

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message m...
So, what happens if you swap the colours around to the opposite eyes then?
Brian


Perhaps you just see the back of the characters heads like when Olive Oyl turns Popeye's
portrait round before retiring to bed.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Tim December 13th 09 04:37 PM

3D glasses?
 
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK
wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free
and they may still have some left.


You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and
spent the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively
underestimated the demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into
place to get more in. There were several posts about it at the time.


Besides which the whole exercise was a massive disappointment. 3D with
coloured filters just isn't nice to watch.

Tim


Ian Jackson[_2_] December 13th 09 05:24 PM

3D glasses?
 
In message , Tim
writes
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK
wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free
and they may still have some left.


You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and
spent the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively
underestimated the demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into
place to get more in. There were several posts about it at the time.


Besides which the whole exercise was a massive disappointment. 3D with
coloured filters just isn't nice to watch.

Last week, I acquired a cast-off pair of slightly battered Sainsbury's
glasses. When I watched my recordings of the Channel 4 programmes, the
results were extremely disappointing. The lenses (especially the blue)
cut down the brightness considerably, making the picture as dim as two
TOC H lamps in series. Only occasionally was there anything in the way
of any 3-D effect - and that was probably due the effects of eye-strain.
--
Ian

Max Demian December 13th 09 05:24 PM

3D glasses?
 
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
So, what happens if you swap the colours around to the opposite eyes then?


I just tried it and the images don't integrate at all - I just see a blue or
amber image depending on which eye I am concentrating on, or blue/amber
fringes, but no depth and no natural colour.

--
Max Demian



Terry Pinnell December 13th 09 07:41 PM

3D glasses?
 
Thanks for the feedback. Reckon I won't bother now!

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Brian Gaff December 13th 09 07:48 PM

3D glasses?
 
Sounds like a good effect for a horror movie.

The last time I could see enough to see 3d was in the mid 90s when I saw a
colour double polarised tv projection of a video about growing grapes and
making wine in Surrey. Very impressive until you tilted your head that is.

Brian

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"Richard Brooks" wrote in message
...
Brian Gaff said the following on 13/12/2009 13:58:
So, what happens if you swap the colours around to the opposite eyes
then?
Brian


I wonder if the characters look hollowed out as things do in the full
colour side-by-side setups when the pictures are the wrong way around?




Brian Gaff December 13th 09 07:49 PM

3D glasses?
 
Actually, in theory it should not really matter which eye sees which surely?
Brian

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"Graham." wrote in message
...

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
So, what happens if you swap the colours around to the opposite eyes
then?
Brian


Perhaps you just see the back of the characters heads like when Olive Oyl
turns Popeye's
portrait round before retiring to bed.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%




Brian Gaff December 13th 09 07:50 PM

3D glasses?
 
Most odd then. One would need to work that out. How can it be different. If
you do a headstand while viewing does it go back right again?
Brian

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"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
So, what happens if you swap the colours around to the opposite eyes
then?


I just tried it and the images don't integrate at all - I just see a blue
or amber image depending on which eye I am concentrating on, or blue/amber
fringes, but no depth and no natural colour.

--
Max Demian




R Gower December 13th 09 09:03 PM

3D glasses?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK
wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free
and they may still have some left.


You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and
spent the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively
underestimated the demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into
place to get more in. There were several posts about it at the time.


Besides which the whole exercise was a massive disappointment. 3D with
coloured filters just isn't nice to watch.

Tim


It was in the mid 80s when CH4 tried it out. They put some great films on
but the glasses were red and blue. What they did a few weeks ago was a
load of rubbish, it was black and white film run through a computer program.
The results were absolutely terrible and not even worth watching.
If a shop is giving away 3D glasses for FREE, they have no requirement to
make plans to get more in - why should they.



Max Demian December 13th 09 11:39 PM

3D glasses?
 
"R Gower" wrote in message
...
[...]

It was in the mid 80s when CH4 tried it out.
They put some great films on but the glasses were red and blue.


Only washed out colour resulted.

What they did a few weeks ago was a
load of rubbish, it was black and white film run through a computer
program.


No it wasn't.

The results were absolutely terrible and not even worth watching.


Not very good, but at least there was more or less full colour - but you had
to turn all the lights out.

--
Max Demian



Max Demian December 13th 09 11:41 PM

3D glasses?
 
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
Most odd then. One would need to work that out. How can it be different.
If you do a headstand while viewing does it go back right again?


I expect so, but I'm not inclined to attempt such a feat.

--
Max Demian



Brian Gregory [UK] December 13th 09 11:48 PM

3D glasses?
 
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
Actually, in theory it should not really matter which eye sees which
surely?
Brian


I think the right eye needs to see the image from the right hand camera and
likewise for left and left hand for there to be any hope of some kind of 3D
effect.

--

Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.




mikeos December 14th 09 09:33 AM

3D glasses?
 
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free and
they may still have some left.


You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and spent
the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively underestimated the
demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into place to get more in.
There were several posts about it at the time.


They did re-stock. I got a couple of pairs at my local a week after the
original publicity. The original poster though wanted some to go over
normal specs. These don't of course.

Brian Gaff December 14th 09 11:05 AM

3D glasses?
 
Actually you only need to bend down to get the effect, or probably more up
his street, lay down with head toward tv with glasses on the wrong way.

Brian

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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. com...
Most odd then. One would need to work that out. How can it be different.
If you do a headstand while viewing does it go back right again?


I expect so, but I'm not inclined to attempt such a feat.


There is an interested readership on this group that would really
appreciate it if you would try! :-)




Max Demian December 14th 09 12:07 PM

3D glasses?
 
"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "R Gower"
wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK
wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free
and they may still have some left.

You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and
spent the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively
underestimated the demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into
place to get more in. There were several posts about it at the time.

Besides which the whole exercise was a massive disappointment. 3D with
coloured filters just isn't nice to watch.


It was in the mid 80s when CH4 tried it out.


The Channel 4 3D week that this thread is discussing, was just last month.

If a shop is giving away 3D glasses for FREE, they have no requirement to
make plans to get more in - why should they.


Simple - it's because getting 3D glasses from that one shop was the one
and only exclusive way of being able to view the broadcasts in question
last month. If I could have bought a pair of Color(sic)Code 3D glasses
elsewhere for a reasonable cost (in person - no time for mail order) I'd
have no problem with Sainsbury's blithely sitting on their hands once they
ran out. But by massively (deliberately?) underestimating demand, they
slashed the audience figures. I would have thought that the advertisers
that had paid for adverts during the 3D programmes would have kicked up a
stink and demanded more stock were supplied urgently - it was clear *very*
early on that the stock was woefully inadequate. As it was, their lack of
backup plans to get more in was typical of a British half-arsed effort at
doing something.


Maybe people grabbed handfuls in the hope of cleaning up on eBay.

--
Max Demian



Max Demian December 14th 09 12:08 PM

3D glasses?
 
"mikeos" wrote in message
...
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK
wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free and
they may still have some left.


You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and spent
the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively underestimated the
demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into place to get more in.
There were several posts about it at the time.


They did re-stock. I got a couple of pairs at my local a week after the
original publicity. The original poster though wanted some to go over
normal specs. These don't of course.


They do unless your ears are very far back.

--
Max Demian



Max Demian December 14th 09 12:09 PM

3D glasses?
 
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
Actually you only need to bend down to get the effect, or probably more up
his street, lay down with head toward tv with glasses on the wrong way.


Would turning the TV upside down have the same effect?

Or moving to Australia?

--
Max Demian



Tim December 14th 09 01:15 PM

3D glasses?
 

"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "R Gower"
wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK
wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free
and they may still have some left.

You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and
spent the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively
underestimated the demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into
place to get more in. There were several posts about it at the time.

Besides which the whole exercise was a massive disappointment. 3D with
coloured filters just isn't nice to watch.


It was in the mid 80s when CH4 tried it out.


The Channel 4 3D week that this thread is discussing, was just last
month.

If a shop is giving away 3D glasses for FREE, they have no requirement to
make plans to get more in - why should they.


Simple - it's because getting 3D glasses from that one shop was the one
and only exclusive way of being able to view the broadcasts in question
last month. If I could have bought a pair of Color(sic)Code 3D glasses
elsewhere for a reasonable cost (in person - no time for mail order) I'd
have no problem with Sainsbury's blithely sitting on their hands once
they
ran out. But by massively (deliberately?) underestimating demand, they
slashed the audience figures. I would have thought that the advertisers
that had paid for adverts during the 3D programmes would have kicked up a
stink and demanded more stock were supplied urgently - it was clear
*very*
early on that the stock was woefully inadequate. As it was, their lack of
backup plans to get more in was typical of a British half-arsed effort at
doing something.


Maybe people grabbed handfuls in the hope of cleaning up on eBay.


Well we made one ebay seller rich. We tried to get a pair from Sainsburys
but failed miserably so we coughed up £1.99 on ebay after 6 pm on Friday
night and they arrived in the post on Saturday morning.

Tim


MickK[_3_] December 14th 09 04:45 PM

3D glasses?
 
Mike Henry wrote:
In , MickK wrote:

The broadcasts were ColorCode 3D - blue and amber glasses.
www.colorcode3d.com
Try your local Sainsbury's first. That's where I got mine for free and
they may still have some left.


You must be kidding - they ran out before the first broadcast, and spent
the entire Channel 4 3D week denying they massively underestimated the
demand, and failed to put any back-up plans into place to get more in.
There were several posts about it at the time.


Had piles left at my local!
MickK

Terry Pinnell December 15th 09 08:55 AM

3D glasses?
 
Terry Pinnell wrote:

Just posted this query in uk.media.tv.misc but maybe it would be more
appropriate here?

--------------------

The recent series of 3D broadcasts took me by surprise. In case they are
repeated I'd like to get some glasses.

None of the listings I saw ever mentioned these - no specification or
possible sources of supply. A quick google just now has also left me unclear,
as there appear to be several types and colour combinations.

Can anyone educate me briefly please and point me to a UK supplier of a pair
that will go over the top of my existing regular glasses?


Thanks for the replies.

From the comments in both newsgroups, it looks as if I wasn't missing much.
So I've dropped the idea of viewing any early repeats, at least until the
technology improves a bit.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Dickie mint December 15th 09 05:42 PM

3D glasses?
 
Terry Pinnell wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote:

Just posted this query in uk.media.tv.misc but maybe it would be more
appropriate here?

--------------------

The recent series of 3D broadcasts took me by surprise. In case they are
repeated I'd like to get some glasses.

None of the listings I saw ever mentioned these - no specification or
possible sources of supply. A quick google just now has also left me unclear,
as there appear to be several types and colour combinations.

Can anyone educate me briefly please and point me to a UK supplier of a pair
that will go over the top of my existing regular glasses?


Thanks for the replies.

From the comments in both newsgroups, it looks as if I wasn't missing much.
So I've dropped the idea of viewing any early repeats, at least until the
technology improves a bit.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Having watched the Ch 4 headache inducing red/blue 3D stuff and found it
completely useless, I went with the wife to see "Christmas Carol 3D" at
the cinema. I have to say it was mind boggling done properly, with
"RealD" polarised glasses. No headache and watched 10 minutes of
trailers and 1 1/2 hours of film with no adverse effect.

Now if TV were to adopt this 3D mode they'd be very popular! But how to
mimic the special screen and polarised projector?

Richard

David December 15th 09 06:17 PM

3D glasses?
 


"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Terry Pinnell wrote:

I went with the wife to see "Christmas Carol 3D" at
the cinema. I have to say it was mind boggling done properly, with
"RealD" polarised glasses. No headache and watched 10 minutes of trailers
and 1 1/2 hours of film with no adverse effect.

Now if TV were to adopt this 3D mode they'd be very popular! But how to
mimic the special screen and polarised projector?


We went to see it at an IMAX cinema in IMAX 3D was mind blowing, glad to
hear it is as good at the digital cinema too.

I can get 3D HD TV on my Freesat TV if I point my dish at 9 deg. East.
What I see is 2 pictures side by side and both are squeezed, do not know
what sort of glasses this needs.
Regards
David


Pete[_8_] December 16th 09 04:28 PM

3D glasses?
 
When ti came out on dvd I got Spy Kids 3D for the family to watch on our 32"
crt. It used red/cyan specs and was dreadful, rare 3d bits but mostly a haze
of coloured outlines and very tiring to watch.
Last year I bought a 50" plasma and played same dvd, still as bad......
Later in the yr I got a colourimeter ( Eye-one LT ) and setup the greyscale
correctly. Played the dvd again and was amazed to see 3d throughout with no
coloured edges, the shot on the moon with the stars behind was incredible.
Most tvs come from the factory with far too much blue and really high
contrast, the 3d glasses rely on filtering the correct colours to each eye
so if the tv is wrong the end result will also be wrong.
The recent ch4 3d with glasses from Sainsburys was ok except the overall
brightness was greatly reduced and the colours just didn't look right, 3d
effects where fine but I prefered the older red/cyan version.

Pete





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