Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

In article ,
-GB-Carpy wrote:
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

You'd have thought they could have got rid of the old mount on the other
side of the stack given the amount of touching up they've done. And why
remove the chimney pots?

--
*'ome is where you 'ang your @ *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

In article , -GB-Carpy
writes
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Tell 'em you'll accept one of their little toys in exchange for their
breach of your copyright.

No, really.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
-GB-Carpy wrote:
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Not only that, you appear to be a giant if the scale of the pole etc is
anything to go by. Another neat trick is how you can stand behind the
mast, and appear in front of the reflector of the back mount aerial on
said mast. That's before getting onto the shadow on the side of the giant
being on the side facing the sun.

--

He also seems to be doing a pretty good job of balancing himself on such a
steep looking roof, considering that he doesn't appear to be using a roofing
ladder , unless of course he's standing on the top of a dormer that we can't
see.

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

On Dec 10, 12:04*am, fred wrote:
In article , -GB-Carpy
writesHere's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Tell 'em you'll accept one of their little toys in exchange for their
breach of your copyright.

No, really.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Absolutely bloody right! Copyright theft is bad enough with consumers
nicking professional works, without companies nicking private
individuals photos.

You have to ask why it was beyond the wit of man / Promax to take a
photo of someone near to an aerial without have to take a fairly
ordinary photo of a roof (no offence!), touch out the old aerial and
replace and add a character that wasn't there! And to be happy with
what they produced!!

Time to serve a small claims notice on them if a polite conversation
doesn't result in payment / freebies!

Matt

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

On Dec 9, 10:13*pm, "-GB-Carpy" wrote:
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

And its on their Spanish and French international versions too -
http://www.promax.es/downloads/produ...p/TVHUNTER.pdf
http://www.promax.es/downloads/produ...a/TVHUNTER.pdf

Matt

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"larkim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 10, 12:04 am, fred wrote:
In article , -GB-Carpy
writesHere's an old photo on my website, taken by me
a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Tell 'em you'll accept one of their little toys in exchange for their
breach of your copyright.

No, really.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Absolutely bloody right! Copyright theft is bad enough with consumers
nicking professional works, without companies nicking private
individuals photos.

You have to ask why it was beyond the wit of man / Promax to take a
photo of someone near to an aerial without have to take a fairly
ordinary photo of a roof (no offence!), touch out the old aerial and
replace and add a character that wasn't there! And to be happy with
what they produced!!

Time to serve a small claims notice on them if a polite conversation
doesn't result in payment / freebies!

Matt

You really think they will care? It would be nice if I could squeeze a
TVHunter out of them, but I can't see it happening! My TV Explorer is in for
repair with Promax at the moment, so I'll wait until I've got that back
before I have a word about nicking my picture......

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
...
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!


Considering that was taken in the CP region, they've also downgraded the
quality of the aerial - but made it huge to compensate!
Surely you should wear some PPE ;-)

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

On Dec 10, 6:14*pm, "-GB-Carpy" wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 10, 12:04 am, fred wrote:





In article , -GB-Carpy
writesHere's an old photo on my website, taken by me
a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Tell 'em you'll accept one of their little toys in exchange for their
breach of your copyright.

No, really.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Absolutely bloody right! *Copyright theft is bad enough with consumers
nicking professional works, without companies nicking private
individuals photos.

You have to ask why it was beyond the wit of man / Promax to take a
photo of someone near to an aerial without have to take a fairly
ordinary photo of a roof (no offence!), touch out the old aerial and
replace and add a character that wasn't there! *And to be happy with
what they produced!!

Time to serve a small claims notice on them if a polite conversation
doesn't result in payment / freebies!

Matt

You really think they will care? It would be nice if I could squeeze a
TVHunter out of them, but I can't see it happening! My TV Explorer is in for
repair with Promax at the moment, so I'll wait until I've got that back
before I have a word about nicking my picture......

I don't know if they will care, but if you are factually in the right
and get nowhere with a polite conversation then a cheap small claims
notice would at least prompt a response. Particularly where you are
a customer of theirs, I would have thought it would be excellent
customer relations to apologise for their error and compensate you -
even a bottle of whisky would be better than nothing!

Matt

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

I've used the "Gimp" to trace the roof with automatic near-colour
outline-tracing, then applied an exact 3:1 scaling between the two images,
and they're a perfect match. See he

http://imgur.com/61nko.jpg

(This was inspired by Java Jive'a attempt, which was a good idea in
principle, but it needed a little refining.)

And the advice from various people about redress... I know that most of us
are too teccy for our own good, but even somebody like me knows what
"having a laugh" is.

--
Dave Farrance

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

larkim wrote:
On Dec 10, 6:14 pm, "-GB-Carpy" wrote:
"larkim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 10, 12:04 am, fred wrote:





In article , -GB-Carpy
writesHere's an old photo on my website, taken by me
a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG
Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?
Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!
Tell 'em you'll accept one of their little toys in exchange for their
breach of your copyright.
No, really.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs
Absolutely bloody right! Copyright theft is bad enough with consumers
nicking professional works, without companies nicking private
individuals photos.

You have to ask why it was beyond the wit of man / Promax to take a
photo of someone near to an aerial without have to take a fairly
ordinary photo of a roof (no offence!), touch out the old aerial and
replace and add a character that wasn't there! And to be happy with
what they produced!!

Time to serve a small claims notice on them if a polite conversation
doesn't result in payment / freebies!

Matt

You really think they will care? It would be nice if I could squeeze a
TVHunter out of them, but I can't see it happening! My TV Explorer is in for
repair with Promax at the moment, so I'll wait until I've got that back
before I have a word about nicking my picture......

I don't know if they will care, but if you are factually in the right
and get nowhere with a polite conversation then a cheap small claims
notice would at least prompt a response. Particularly where you are
a customer of theirs, I would have thought it would be excellent
customer relations to apologise for their error and compensate you -
even a bottle of whisky would be better than nothing!

Or a free repair on the Explorer...

--
Cheers,

John.

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Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Disclaimer, I am not a graphic artist but ...

Have you been by the house recently? Does it still have the chimney
pots? Above all, does it still have the aerial you installed?

I ask, because I'm not absolutely convinced it's actually the same
picture. I outlined the roof and chimney in their photo ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/Carpy_1.png
... and then tried to make the outline fit those in yours ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/Carpy_2.png
... it's a pretty good fit certainly, but not quite exact towards the
LHS, which I think it would have to be for it to be actually the same
photo. I think the photos are probably of the same house taken from
almost the same vantage point, but perhaps a yard or two apart.

Beside the chimney pots having been probably overwritten when they
grafted on the sky along with the absurdly huge aerial (I wonder what
the windage would be if it really were that size) and the levitating
giant installer, there are other differences in the picture as well,
which could indicate it's actually a different but similar house, but
I think the greater number of similarities suggest it's the same
house.

+ The bracket and the piece of older metalwork the other side of the
chimney look to be identical, though the mast may have been replaced
when touching up the original photo.
+ Zooming in, the pattern of bricks in the chimney and the gaps
between courses appear exactly the same.
+ There's a chip or bright patch on the (can't remember the
technical building term) front facing corner tile 5th course down
which looks the same in both.
- The crap on the roof has gone.

At very least, you can try complaining. For one thing, if the aerial
on the house is actually still the one that you installed (so I
suggest you go and check), then the picture is misleading. It's also
misleading in terms of the proportions of the aerial and the windage
it implies. It may also be that my drawing is insufficiently accurate
(which wouldn't be surprising), that they have actually used your pic,
and might come clean to your advantage if you press them!

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:13:24 -0000, "-GB-Carpy"
wrote:

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?
--
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Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's
header does not exist. Or use a contact addresses at:
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html

It's the same photo. No doubt at all about that.

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:18:47 GMT, Dave Farrance
wrote:

"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

I've used the "Gimp" to trace the roof with automatic near-colour
outline-tracing, then applied an exact 3:1 scaling between the two images,
and they're a perfect match. See he

http://imgur.com/61nko.jpg

(This was inspired by Java Jive'a attempt, which was a good idea in
principle, but it needed a little refining.)

And the advice from various people about redress... I know that most of us
are too teccy for our own good, but even somebody like me knows what
"having a laugh" is.

The owner of the house might want a share of the "winnings".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

I bow to your superior graphics skills (I can't draw for toffees, the
artist in the family was/is my ex-wife)

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:18:47 GMT, Dave Farrance
wrote:

I've used the "Gimp" to trace the roof with automatic near-colour
outline-tracing, then applied an exact 3:1 scaling between the two images,
and they're a perfect match. See he

http://imgur.com/61nko.jpg

(This was inspired by Java Jive'a attempt, which was a good idea in
principle, but it needed a little refining.)
--
================================================== =======
Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's
header does not exist. Or use a contact addresses at:
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

On Dec 11, 12:24*pm, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:18:47 GMT, Dave Farrance





wrote:
"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

I've used the "Gimp" to trace the roof with automatic near-colour
outline-tracing, then applied an exact 3:1 scaling between the two images,
and they're a perfect match. *See he

http://imgur.com/61nko.jpg

(This was inspired by Java Jive'a attempt, which was a good idea in
principle, but it needed a little refining.)

And the advice from various people about redress... I know that most of us
are too teccy for our own good, but even somebody like me knows what
"having a laugh" is.

The owner of the house might want a share of the "winnings".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Why? You don't own copyright in the way that your house looks (unless
you built it, when I suppose you might). You have copyright in
something you create (i.e. a photo). If David Bailey wanted to take a
photo of me (why, I know not!) he'd own the copyright of the photo.

Imagine if every subject of a photo was able to make a claim for a
share of the royalties - there'd be a whole industry of celebs agents
charging paparazzi for snatched photos!!

Matt

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

On Dec 9, 10:13*pm, "-GB-Carpy" wrote:
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held meter.http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

You want to ask them for a freebie. My picture of Little Mo with TETRA
all over her clock has been widely used.

Bill

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

In article , John
Rumm writes

Not only that, you appear to be a giant if the scale of the pole etc is
anything to go by. Another neat trick is how you can stand behind the
mast, and appear in front of the reflector of the back mount aerial on
said mast. That's before getting onto the shadow on the side of the
giant being on the side facing the sun.

Not only that, he's got his arse on back to front. Must be some
hangover.

The bottom half (the pants) is of someone facing the opposite way,
partially bent over.

And the photo of TV****er, the Service List shown is of Spanish
channels. The first one isn't what some people might think it is.

--
(\__/)
(='.'=) Bunny says Windows 7 is Vi$ta reloaded.
(")_(") http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
...
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Well I went into Promax UK, and asked if I could see whoever was responsible
for putting together this TVHunter PDF. They asked me why, so I said that
whoever did it had stolen my photo and I wanted to grill them about this.

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by the
UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was defnitely my
photo that has been used without my permission, but they said that's
impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of Promax and see
what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is particularly poor, so I'm
a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I reckon a free TV Hunter is
defnitely a goer, if I can push the right buttons and annoy them to the
point where they just want me to go away.....

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
...

"-GB-Carpy" wrote in message
...
Here's an old photo on my website, taken by me a few years ago.
http://ickenhamaerials.co.uk/DSCF1125.JPG

Here's the Promax PDF booklet for their new TV-Hunter DVB-T hand held
meter.
http://www.promaxelectronics.com/dow...g/TVHUNTER.pdf
Check the photo on page 1. Looks familiar huh?

Then to add insult to injury, they've given me green cord trousers, a
receding hairline, and a shirt!

Well I went into Promax UK, and asked if I could see whoever was
responsible for putting together this TVHunter PDF. They asked me why, so
I said that whoever did it had stolen my photo and I wanted to grill them
about this.

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by
the UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was
defnitely my photo that has been used without my permission, but they said
that's impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of Promax
and see what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is particularly
poor, so I'm a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I reckon a free TV
Hunter is defnitely a goer, if I can push the right buttons and annoy them
to the point where they just want me to go away.....

IMHO I don't think it matters a damn who produced the photo - They published
on their website so they are responsible.

--
Paul S

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by
the UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was
defnitely my photo that has been used without my permission, but they
said that's impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of
Promax and see what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is
particularly poor, so I'm a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I
reckon a free TV Hunter is defnitely a goer, if I can push the right
buttons and annoy them to the point where they just want me to go
away.....

IMHO I don't think it matters a damn who produced the photo - They
published on their website so they are responsible.

--
Paul S

There is a freeware program called SMerge which you can use to overlap their
photo over yours to show that they two really are the same, right down to
the tiles.

And I agree with Paul S, their company, their website, their problem.

Is there a lawyer in the house?

Paul DS

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

Well I went into Promax UK, and asked if I could see whoever was responsible
for putting together this TVHunter PDF. They asked me why, so I said that
whoever did it had stolen my photo and I wanted to grill them about this.

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by the
UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was defnitely my
photo that has been used without my permission, but they said that's
impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of Promax and see
what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is particularly poor, so I'm
a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I reckon a free TV Hunter is
defnitely a goer, if I can push the right buttons and annoy them to the
point where they just want me to go away.....

Show them this:

http://imgur.com/JWZy1.jpg

--
Dave Farrance

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Show them this:

http://imgur.com/JWZy1.jpg

That's nice - what software did that for you?

Paul DS.

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

Well I went into Promax UK, and asked if I could see whoever was
responsible
for putting together this TVHunter PDF. They asked me why, so I said that
whoever did it had stolen my photo and I wanted to grill them about this.

They said Promax would never steal any photo, and it wasn't produced by
the
UK team anyway - it was the Spanish lot. I assured them it was defnitely
my
photo that has been used without my permission, but they said that's
impossible! I told them I would pursue the Spanish arm of Promax and see
what they say about it. Problem is, my Spanish is particularly poor, so
I'm
a bit stuck on how to proceed from here! I reckon a free TV Hunter is
defnitely a goer, if I can push the right buttons and annoy them to the
point where they just want me to go away.....

Show them this:

http://imgur.com/JWZy1.jpg

--
Dave Farrance

Superb Dave thanks for that. If you could possibly keep it hosted for a
while until I get this sorted out? I will report back with any progress!

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"Paul D.Smith" wrote:

Show them this:

http://imgur.com/JWZy1.jpg

That's nice - what software did that for you?

I use the Gimp since it's free, but any photo manipulation app like
Photoshop or Paintshop should do. Once you've got your head around the
concepts of the canvas, layers, masks, and filters, then something like
that can be knocked together quite quickly.

--
Dave Farrance

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"-GB-Carpy" wrote:

"Dave Farrance" wrote:

Show them this:
http://imgur.com/JWZy1.jpg

Superb Dave thanks for that. If you could possibly keep it hosted for a
while until I get this sorted out? I will report back with any progress!

Cool. It's on imgur.com, which is a free image hosting site that requires
no user account to upload images, and it retains an image as long as
somebody views it at least once every 3 months.

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Dave Farrance

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Well after 2 years of using my photograph and another discussion with Promax UK, they have finally acknowledged they have been using my photo for the last 2 years, and have now removed it from all their literature.

Promax UK's stance is it was "someone" in Promax Spain that stole the photo, and he doesn't work for the company anymore, and they aren't willing to offer anything as compensation except a verbal apology.

Pretty disappointed with their attitude really. I've been a loyal customer for years and would have been happy with some kind of freebie. Even a new mains charger for my TV Explorer would have sufficed. I've lost mine and refuse to pay the £100 or so they want for a replacement.

I'd love to know if there's a way to take this further, mainly because I don't like their attitude. I doubt it's a road worth exploring though? If anyone has a different brand of analyser which compares to the Promax ones then I'm all ears.

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

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Rayden wrote:
Well after 2 years of using my photograph and another discussion with
Promax UK, they have finally acknowledged they have been using my photo
for the last 2 years, and have now removed it from all their literature.

Promax UK's stance is it was "someone" in Promax Spain that stole the
photo, and he doesn't work for the company anymore, and they aren't
willing to offer anything as compensation except a verbal apology.

IANAL however taking what you write at face value: I think the legal
problem they would have is that regardless of whoever "stole" it, if
they've been using it without permission then they may have breached
copyright by doing so. AIUI it was down to them to ensure that "rights"
they think they were assigned were granted by a "someone" legally
entitled to grant them.

If reproducing copyright material without the copyright-owner's permission
ends up costing them, it is for them to decide if they want to take
action against the "someone" who mislead them.

cf below for how to check this.



Pretty disappointed with their attitude really. I've been a loyal
customer for years and would have been happy with some kind of freebie.
Even a new mains charger for my TV Explorer would have sufficed. I've
lost mine and refuse to pay the £100 or so they want for a replacement.

I'd love to know if there's a way to take this further, mainly because I
don't like their attitude. I doubt it's a road worth exploring though?

1) Ask your local CAB (who may have a legal clinic and/or can write a
legalese letter for you to the company in question).

2) Then if you wish, contact a lawyer.

A letter from either may well 'improve' their attitude if you have a
reasonable legal case.

But in the end, your decision how far to push. A lawyer with the
relevant experience may be able to advise on what level of damages
you might get, and if the issue is worth acting upon.

Slainte,

Jim

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Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

IANAL however taking what you write at face value: I think the legal
problem they would have is that regardless of whoever "stole" it, if
they've been using it without permission then they may have breached
copyright by doing so. AIUI it was down to them to ensure that
"rights" they think they were assigned were granted by a "someone"
legally entitled to grant them.


But in the end, your decision how far to push. A lawyer with the
relevant experience may be able to advise on what level of damages
you might get, and if the issue is worth acting upon.


uk.legal.moderated might give you a additional views. FWIW (ie v
little) my vague recollection is that:

a. you are not entitled to anything if PROMAX can argue they'd no
reason to believe that someone else had copyright; and more important
b. how much compensation you would get is typically based on the loss
you have suffered (eg how much less the photo is worth now because it
has been used by PROMAX) or on how much extra profit PROMAX have made
from using your photo (ie all those sales made from using that rather
than some other chimney etc) . Both likely to be small tending towards
........?

(And their lawyers may have advised them to give you nothing for fear of
admitting more.)
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Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Rayden wrote:
Well after 2 years of using my photograph and another discussion with Promax UK,

they have finally acknowledged they have been using my photo for the
last 2 years, and have

now removed it from all their literature.

What was it a picture of?

Promax UK's stance is it was "someone" in Promax Spain that stole the photo, and

e doesn't work for the company anymore, and they aren't willing to offer
anything as

compensation except a verbal apology.

Pretty disappointed with their attitude really. I've been a loyal customer for years

and would have been happy with some kind of freebie. Even a new mains
charger for my TV

Explorer would have sufficed. I've lost mine and refuse to pay the £100
or so they

want for a replacement.

The three Promaxes we have will all charge from any 12V DC supply, such
as any old PSU. I think the current drawn is 2.5A max. The plug is
slightly bigger than the 'normal' one, but CPC sell them.

Bill

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

It was a picture of a nice simple Group A installation I'd just completed. They took the photo, chopped out the aerial, and pasted in a strange cartoon man aligning a horrendously large wideband.

I've never been able to find the correct DC plug size on CPC. The Promax seems to be 5.5mm x 2.5mm (12mm long). Have just ordered some from ebay and will see if they fit......

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Thanks for the replies. I did always suspect that it would be pointless trying to get anything out of them. I can't see how they could deny knowing it wasn't a copyrighted photo, but as to my actual losses = £0, or their gain from using it........I guess you could debate this, but they would probably have sold the same amount of units by using a different photograph.

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

now removed it from all their literature.

What was it a picture of?

http://i.imgur.com/JWZy1.jpg

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Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

In message

, Rayden writes
Well after 2 years of using my photograph and another discussion with
Promax UK, they have finally acknowledged they have been using my photo
for the last 2 years, and have now removed it from all their literature.

Promax UK's stance is it was "someone" in Promax Spain that stole the
photo, and he doesn't work for the company anymore, and they aren't
willing to offer anything as compensation except a verbal apology.

Pretty disappointed with their attitude really. I've been a loyal
customer for years and would have been happy with some kind of freebie.
Even a new mains charger for my TV Explorer would have sufficed. I've
lost mine and refuse to pay the £100 or so they want for a replacement.

I'd love to know if there's a way to take this further, mainly because
I don't like their attitude. I doubt it's a road worth exploring
though? If anyone has a different brand of analyser which compares to
the Promax ones then I'm all ears.

Still makes an appearance elsewhere on the web though

http://www.dastv.co.uk/shop/docs/TVHUNTER.pdf

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Bill
( A different one )

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...



now removed it from all their literature.

What was it a picture of?

http://i.imgur.com/JWZy1.jpg

Well the modified one won't work as it's pointing in the opposite direction
(if that's any consolation).

What's the man supposed to be standing on?

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Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Rayden wrote:
It was a picture of a nice simple Group A installation I'd just completed.

They took the photo, chopped out the aerial, and pasted in a strange

cartoon man aligning a horrendously large wideband.

I've never been able to find the correct DC plug size on CPC. The

Promax seems to be 5.5mm x 2.5mm (12mm long). Have just ordered some

from ebay and will see if they fit......
They have got them, but I don't know the stock number. Some time ago I
ordered one of every possible type in order to discover which was the
correct one. If you're stuck on this tell me and I'll have a look and
see if I can figure out the stock number. I think I might have some
still in their packs.

Bill

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Rayden wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I did always suspect that it would be pointless trying to get anything out

of them. I can't see how they could deny knowing it wasn't a copyrighted
photo, but as to my actual

losses = £0, or their gain from using it........I guess you could debate
this, but they would

probably have sold the same amount of units by using a different photograph.

The latter point is irrelevant. You could get the same nutrition from a
tin of spam bought from Asda as you could one bought from Morrisons, but
if you bought it from Asda you would need to pay Asda.

By the way when I reply to your messages

Bill

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Graham. wrote:
now removed it from all their literature.

What was it a picture of?



Is that a spanner in your pocket or are you just glad to be aerial rigging?

Bill

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Max Demian wrote:
"Graham." wrote in message
...

now removed it from all their literature.

What was it a picture of?


Well the modified one won't work as it's pointing in the opposite direction
(if that's any consolation).

What's the man supposed to be standing on?

And why is he ten foot tall? That paste up was done by someone who
doesn't know the true size of a chimney. But count the bricks.

Bill

Promax robbed my photo..........thieving bar-stewards
 

Why not just send them an invoice itemised for the use of the photo for
however long, and say if this is a final invoice and thank them for using
your photo supply agency.

Brian

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"Rayden" wrote in message
...
Well after 2 years of using my photograph and another discussion with Promax
UK, they have finally acknowledged they have been using my photo for the
last 2 years, and have now removed it from all their literature.

Promax UK's stance is it was "someone" in Promax Spain that stole the photo,
and he doesn't work for the company anymore, and they aren't willing to
offer anything as compensation except a verbal apology.

Pretty disappointed with their attitude really. I've been a loyal customer
for years and would have been happy with some kind of freebie. Even a new
mains charger for my TV Explorer would have sufficed. I've lost mine and
refuse to pay the £100 or so they want for a replacement.

I'd love to know if there's a way to take this further, mainly because I
don't like their attitude. I doubt it's a road worth exploring though? If
anyone has a different brand of analyser which compares to the Promax ones
then I'm all ears.