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News Reader December 9th 09 11:02 AM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 

Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least slightly
relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a helpful and
useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).


Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.

Thanks in advance.


Best wishes,



News Reader




Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 09 11:39 AM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In article ,
News Reader wrote:

Hi,



Sorry for a slightly OT post.


These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield
a helpful and useful answer.


In short:


Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw
Single Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):



Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4


@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------



Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).



Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.


First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work on other's
newsreaders.

There are millions of relays - all with different pin numbers.

Use a DVM set to resistance to find out which two are the coil - it will
have a resistance likely in the 100s of ohms. The other two are the switch
contacts. If you don't have a DVM Xmas approaches. ;-) If a low volt coil
you could use a suitable battery. Note some relays have an internal diode
across the coil so will be polarity sensitive.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Russell Hafter News December 9th 09 12:52 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In article , Dave Plowman
(News) wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.


I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?

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News Reader December 9th 09 01:16 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 

"Russell Hafter News" wrote in message
...
In article , Dave Plowman
(News) wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.


I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?

--
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Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103



Hi,


Many thanks all.

Will try following the advice given.

Any further / additional, etc. welcomed.

Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode should ensure
the ASCII art renders correctly ( ? - lol... or close enough?)...

Thanks again.

Bye for now.


Best wishes,



News Reader




nut December 9th 09 01:56 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
News Reader wrote:
Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode should
ensure the ASCII art renders correctly ( ? - lol... or close
enough?)...


Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by default
uses a proportional font.



Terry Casey[_2_] December 9th 09 01:56 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - InterpretationHelp
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
News Reader wrote:

Hi,



Sorry for a slightly OT post.


These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield
a helpful and useful answer.


In short:


Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw
Single Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):



Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4


@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------



Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).



Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.


First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work on other's
newsreaders.

There are millions of relays - all with different pin numbers.


DIN is a German Standards Organization, so the letters do not in any way
identify the relay you have.

From your diagram, it is not plain how the contacts are configured as
your non-standard symbols aren't clear, even after making allowance for
the character spacing issue.

One 'DIN' SPST relay, selected purely at random, looks like this - view
with fixed font!

1 2 3 4 5
o o o o o
| | | | |
| | | | |
| __________ | | | |
| | / | | | || |
|_| / |_| | NC | NO
| / | | |
|___/______| | |
|________|

Note that this is NOT a physical representation: the gap between pins 2
& 3 is much greater that the gap between the other pins.

If this doesn't match your relay (which you can easily check as Dave has
already told you) then I suggest that you carefully note all markings on
the one you have - especially part numbers and manufacturer's name - and
use the information to do a Google search.

Please also not that your prolific cross-posting isn't doing you any
favours as many users will have replies to too many groups blocked (as
does mine). Accordingly, I have trimmed your distribution list.

--

Terry

Dave Liquorice[_2_] December 9th 09 02:05 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:52:55 +0000 (GMT), Russell Hafter News wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.


I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?


Most GUI readers do, but even then there is no gurantee that the
vertical alignment will be corect.

Mr Plowman ommitted the word "pitch" between fixed and font. It is
the width of each character that needs to be the same for the entire
font, so a W is just as wide as an i. It doesn't matter what it looks
like, only that the charcters are all the same width.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 09 02:11 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In article ,
News Reader wrote:
Will try following the advice given.


Any further / additional, etc. welcomed.


If you know the make and part number you could try the maker's website for
a spec sheet. Although I've a feeling this might just confuse you more...

Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode should
ensure the ASCII art renders correctly ( ? - lol... or close enough?)...


Newsgroups are basic text only. What font you use to type the message
doesn't come through them. Only the spacing. So you need to use a fixed
space font, and others must use a fixed space font to view that diagram as
you see it.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 09 02:31 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.


Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Terry Casey[_2_] December 9th 09 02:40 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In article , lid
says...

Something strange happened there, I'm not sure what! It was perfectly
all right when it left here!

Hopefully, second time lucky ...

1 2 3 4 5
o o o o o
| | | | |
| | | | |
| __________ | | | |
| | / | | | || |
|_| / |_| | NC | NO
| / | | |
|___/______| | |
|________|


--

Terry

Ian Jackson[_2_] December 9th 09 02:49 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In message , Terry Casey
writes
In article , lid
says...

Something strange happened there, I'm not sure what! It was perfectly
all right when it left here!

Hopefully, second time lucky ...

1 2 3 4 5
o o o o o
| | | | |
| | | | |
| __________ | | | |
| | / | | | || |
|_| / |_| | NC | NO
| / | | |
|___/______| | |
|________|


If it looks odd, just copy and paste to a .doc or a .txt, and change to
Courier New.
--
Ian

Spike[_3_] December 9th 09 04:18 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 

Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Terry Casey
writes
In article , lid
says...

Something strange happened there, I'm not sure what! It was perfectly
all right when it left here!

Hopefully, second time lucky ...

1 2 3 4 5
o o o o o
| | | | |
| | | | |
| __________ | | | |
| | / | | | || |
|_| / |_| | NC | NO
| / | | |
|___/______| | |
|________|


If it looks odd, just copy and paste to a .doc or a .txt, and change to
Courier New.


Or just toggle the Fixed Pitch button on your newsreader's toolbar ;-)

--
from
Aero Spike
Not a member of the RSGB for 50 years 1959 - 2009

Brian Gaff December 9th 09 05:15 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
What picture?
Brian

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graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email:
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________


"News Reader" wrote in message
...

Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a
helpful and useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).


Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.

Thanks in advance.


Best wishes,



News Reader






Brian Gaff December 9th 09 05:18 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
That is the point, a choice of font. Who is going to alter what they use,
and most default to truetype normal stuff.

Not a lot of good to me in any case but used to have fun with ascii art in
them old days.

Who remembers the sheep?
Brian

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Email:
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________


"Russell Hafter News" wrote in message
...
In article , Dave Plowman
(News) wrote:

First you need to use a fixed font for ASCII art to work
on other's newsreaders.


I assumed that all newsreaders offered a choice of font - or
is that just Pluto?

--
Russell
http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk
Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain
Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103




Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 09 07:48 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In article ,
Terry Casey wrote:
In article , lid
says...


Something strange happened there, I'm not sure what! It was perfectly
all right when it left here!


Hopefully, second time lucky ...


1 2 3 4 5
o o o o o
| | | | |
| | | | |
| __________ | | | |
| | / | | | || |
|_| / |_| | NC | NO
| / | | |
|___/______| | |
|________|


The first one was near enough here. Apart from being a SPDT, obviously.
;-)

--
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Dave Plowman
London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Peter Duncanson December 9th 09 07:50 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:31:36 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.


Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?


There is more than one. Possibly the most common one is "Courier New".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Dave Plowman (News) December 9th 09 07:55 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
In article ,
Peter Duncanson wrote:
Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?


There is more than one. Possibly the most common one is "Courier New".


Thanks for that.

--
*If at first you don't succeed, try management *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Yeti December 9th 09 07:59 PM

Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
On Dec 9, 10:02*am, "News Reader" wrote:
Hi,

Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least slightly
relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a helpful and
useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):

Pin 1 * *Pin 2 * *Pin 3 * *Pin 4

@ * * * */|\ * * * */|\ * * * * */|\
@ * * * * | * * * * *| * * * * * *|
* * * * * * --------- * * * * * |
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *|
* * * * * * * * * * * /|\ * * * * * *|
* * * * * * * * * * * *| * * * * * * |
* * * * * * * * * * * -----------

Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).

Your assistance, input and / or guidance, thoughts, etc. are much
appreciated and welcomed.

Thanks in advance.

Best wishes,

News Reader


Why not just take a picture (or draw one in Paint or something),
upload it to photobucket and post the link? much easier - and everyone
will see it correctly.

Robin December 9th 09 08:06 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 


"News Reader" wrote in message
...

Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a
helpful and useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).




SPST will be pin 1 to pin 2 will be the coil.
Pin 3 to pin 4 will be a normally open contact




Paul Starship December 9th 09 09:03 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:02:10 -0000, "News Reader"
wrote:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


whats the part number of the relay ?


Paul December 9th 09 11:05 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 


Hi,


Sorry for a slightly OT post.

These groups tend or seem to be fairly well frequented and at least
slightly relevant and equally likely to be able to fairly quickly yield a
helpful and useful answer.

In short:

Please advise on below relay pin diagram (for a STSP - Single Throw Single
Pole) relay (DIN style - i.e. pins in a row):


Pin 1 Pin 2 Pin 3 Pin 4

@ /|\ /|\ /|\
@ | | |
--------- |
|
/|\ |
| |
-----------


Note: " @@ " is a wiggle symbol which must be for the coil (?).

Lots of tech information here, should help.. http://uk.farnell.com/relays

Cheers,

Paul



JeffM December 10th 09 12:24 AM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - InterpretationHelp
 
Dave Plowman
[...]use a fixed font for ASCII art[...]

News Reader wrote:
Rendering in a text only (non-html or "Font" rendering) mode
should ensure the ASCII art renders correctly

Wanna bet?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.e...8?dmode=source
Just do ASCII art in Notepad and paste *that* into your post.

....and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.
(Apparently you either format blockquoting by hand or
have done the 3rd-party update to make M$'s junk suck a bit less.)

nut December 10th 09 12:43 AM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.


Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional
font OE can access?


All of them, of course!



Andrew December 10th 09 07:07 AM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:24:43 -0800 (PST), JeffM
wrote:

...and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.


I changed my opinion of this after seeing Bills contributions using
News Rover and trying it for myself. OE looks positively useful in
comparison.
--
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Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

Jasen Betts December 10th 09 10:37 AM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - InterpretationHelp
 
On 2009-12-09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nut wrote:
Only fixed width fonts will display correctly... Outlook Express by
default uses a proportional font.


Since I don't use Windows, what is the name of the non proportional font
OE can access?


courier
terminal
fixedsys

(courier's probably best - looks like oldschool typewriter)



JeffM December 10th 09 07:17 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - InterpretationHelp
 
JeffM wrote:
...and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.

Andrew wrote:
I changed my opinion of this after seeing Bills contributions
using News Rover and trying it for myself.
OE looks positively useful in comparison.


The OP is an exception to the rule, but most OE users
are quite clueless about how proper posting should look
(and/or never look at their own posts).
Most OE users are also unaware that there is a 3rd-party update
which makes bad formatting / hand-formatting unnecessary:
http://google.com/search?q=inurl:jain+%22+OE.doesn't.exactly.feature .the.most.intelligent.quoting.algorithm

jasee December 10th 09 08:19 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
JeffM wrote:
JeffM wrote:
...and as has been alluded to,
Outbreaks In Excess is the WORST choice for posting to Usenet
--for this and other reasons.

Andrew wrote:
I changed my opinion of this after seeing Bills contributions
using News Rover and trying it for myself.
OE looks positively useful in comparison.


The OP is an exception to the rule, but most OE users
are quite clueless about how proper posting should look
(and/or never look at their own posts).
Most OE users are also unaware that there is a 3rd-party update
which makes bad formatting / hand-formatting unnecessary:
http://google.com/search?q=inurl:jain+%22+OE.doesn't.exactly.feature .the.most.intelligent.quoting.algorithm


Why didn't you just say Quotefix?



Andrew December 10th 09 08:31 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?


Or Thunderbird.
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Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

jasee December 10th 09 10:01 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?


Or Thunderbird.
--
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Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.




jasee December 10th 09 10:03 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - Interpretation Help
 
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:19:03 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

Why didn't you just say Quotefix?




Didn't realise there was a Quotefix for Outlook as well as Outlook Express



JeffM December 16th 09 10:55 PM

[Slightly OT?] Relay Pin Outs (Wiring Diagram) - InterpretationHelp
 
News Reader wrote:
begin 666 SPST - Relay Picture Temp.GIF


NOT ONE of the groups to which you posted this
has "binary" or "binaries" in its name.
That means those are **text-only** groups.

....and the majority of news servers strip off attachment junk.

Outlook Express users really stand out--due to their ignorance.


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