Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

"David" wrote in message
...
Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

I believe all the channels have their own "iPlayer-like" offering, but the
BBC iPlayer is the most common and ported to most platforms.

But yes, they are all incompatible! The Wii iPlayer especially talks
directly to Beeb servers and only llists the available BBC offerings.

Paul DS

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Paul D.Smith wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being
added to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the
Wii/i-player etc. handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

I believe all the channels have their own "iPlayer-like" offering, but
the BBC iPlayer is the most common and ported to most platforms.

But yes, they are all incompatible! The Wii iPlayer especially talks
directly to Beeb servers and only llists the available BBC offerings.

Paul DS

Ofcom thought it would better for them to compete and for users to have
to goto different web sites for the services but it has also resulted in
different standards being used.

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Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

David wrote:
Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

If you haven't got a fast enough broadband connection to stream them, it is
possible to save i-Player programmes on your PC. Trouble is, you need to
have AdobeAir to play them.

Enough security holes in Acrobat Reader and Flash without adding something
else.

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I wonder how long it will be before someone driving is prosecuted for
driving while watching cornation street on their mobile?
Brian

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"David" wrote in message
...
Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

Brian Gaff wrote:
I wonder how long it will be before someone driving is prosecuted for
driving while watching cornation street on their mobile?


Surely just prosecution for watching cornation street should be sufficient?

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"David" wrote in message
...
Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

i dont find the picture very clear on the Wii, its not 100% clear.

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:31:50 -0000, "David"
wrote:

Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

It's been availabe on the Wii for about a year already, but if you
look at the shop link, or whatever it's called, you should find it's
now there as a channel - no idea, our Wii isn't web connected. You
might want to get a set of component cables to improve picture quality
on the thing too.

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

"Harry" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:31:50 -0000, "David"
wrote:

Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

It's been availabe on the Wii for about a year already, but if you
look at the shop link, or whatever it's called, you should find it's
now there as a channel - no idea, our Wii isn't web connected. You
might want to get a set of component cables to improve picture quality
on the thing too.

I have no problem getting the BBC i-player on my Wii, bought the Internet
Channel a year ago and used the a cable to connect to RGB to the TV scart
socket, and can get onto the internet via my wireless router.
Regards
David

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

I believe all the channels have their own "iPlayer-like" offering, but
the BBC iPlayer is the most common and ported to most platforms.

But yes, they are all incompatible! The Wii iPlayer especially talks
directly to Beeb servers and only llists the available BBC offerings.

Paul DS

Ofcom thought it would better for them to compete and for users to have
to goto different web sites for the services but it has also resulted in
different standards being used.

Good grief, a regulator without a brain - whatever next ;-).

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is itcompatible?
 

On Nov 26, 8:15*am, "David" wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message

...

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:31:50 -0000, "David"
wrote:

Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. * *What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

It's been availabe on the Wii for about a year already, but if you
look at the shop link, or whatever it's called, you should find it's
now there as a channel - no idea, our Wii isn't web connected. You
might want to get a set of component cables to improve picture quality
on the thing too.

I have no problem getting the BBC i-player on my Wii, bought the Internet
Channel a year ago and used the a cable to connect to RGB to the TV scart
socket, and can get onto the internet via my wireless router.
Regards
David

The Wii's limitations are a) its hardware and b) its browser (and
associated plugins). Its not a particularly "beefy" machine
processor / graphics-wise (so probably can't handle decoding HD
transmissions). As Opera (for the Wii) is not customisable, you are
left with it having the capabilities of the browser as built by
Opera / Nintendo (subject to their updates). So currently it can
handle iPlayer (at low bitrates) and youtube plus some other VOD
services. I've not tried 4OD or ITVplayer but I suspect those
services are not compatible with Opera on the Wii.

The new Wii iPlayer Channel has allowed the BBC to write an app which
is specifically tailored to the broadcasts that it serves up over
iPlayer, so I guess they've made it as good as they think it can be.
Its certainly much better than watching via the browser on the Wii,
and whilst I don't think anyone would want to use it for watching the
glory of a BBC wildlife programme, it would be absolutely fine and
watchable for something like Casualty etc.

Matt

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

The new Wii iPlayer Channel has allowed the BBC to write an app which
is specifically tailored to the broadcasts that it serves up over
iPlayer, so I guess they've made it as good as they think it can be.
Its certainly much better than watching via the browser on the Wii,
and whilst I don't think anyone would want to use it for watching the
glory of a BBC wildlife programme, it would be absolutely fine and
watchable for something like Casualty etc.

Matt

Ideal, a rubbish player for rubbish programs ;-

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
...
I believe all the channels have their own "iPlayer-like" offering, but
the BBC iPlayer is the most common and ported to most platforms.

But yes, they are all incompatible! The Wii iPlayer especially talks
directly to Beeb servers and only llists the available BBC offerings.

Paul DS

Ofcom thought it would better for them to compete and for users to have
to goto different web sites for the services but it has also resulted in
different standards being used.

Good grief, a regulator without a brain - whatever next ;-).

I have a wii. I have internet. how do I get the player on it?

Gary

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

"Gary" wrote in message
...



I have a wii. I have internet. how do I get the player on it?

Look in the Mail menu that is where I got them.
Regards
David

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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...

If you save them using get_iplayer you get bog-standard MPEG4 files that
are easily played in VLC with no extra codecs required.


get-iplayer is a command line programme for MS windows.
Homer Simpson's head is hurting already!

Roger R

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On 26 Nov, 10:33, "Roger R"
wrote:
"Mike Henry" wrote in message

...



If you save them using get_iplayer you get bog-standard MPEG4 files that
are easily played in VLC with no extra codecs required.

get-iplayer is a command line programme for MS windows.
Homer Simpson's head is hurting already!

Roger R


Not quite... get_iplayer is a perl program developed for Linux - with
a Windows version.
It works better under Linux, but I use it in Windows with no problems.
There are several GUIs available too.
I use it daily to grab my regular radio shows/podcasts - it has a nice
PVR mode - as well as occasional TV that I have missed.
but I also have iPlayer beta on my Freesat box (Hummy HDR) which works
well if you don't want to keep the show.

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

I have a wii. I have internet. how do I get the player on it?

Go to the Wii "shop" channel and you can get it for free from there.

Paul DS.

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is itcompatible?
 

On Nov 26, 9:22*am, Harry wrote:
The new Wii iPlayer Channel has allowed the BBC to write an app which
is specifically tailored to the broadcasts that it serves up over
iPlayer, so I guess they've made it as good as they think it can be.
Its certainly much better than watching via the browser on the Wii,
and whilst I don't think anyone would want to use it for watching the
glory of a BBC wildlife programme, it would be absolutely fine and
watchable for something like Casualty etc.

Matt

Ideal, a rubbish player for rubbish programs ;-

(Smiley noted!)

A touch dismissive don't you think!?! The player itself certainly
isn't rubbish, and its more than watchable (for me on a 37inch
Panasonic LCD). Of course, it doesn't compare with watching "live" or
watching a perfect quality reproduction via a PVR, but if you were
organised enough to record everything you might want to watch, then
you wouldn't need iPlayer would you?

Its much better than I thought it would be!

Matt

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is itcompatible?
 

On Nov 26, 7:22*am, Harry wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:31:50 -0000, "David"
wrote:

Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. * *What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

It's been availabe on the Wii for about a year already, but if you
look at the shop link, or whatever it's called, you should find it's
now there as a channel - no idea, our Wii isn't web connected. You
might want to get a set of component cables to improve picture quality
on the thing too.

No point in getting component cables as the iplayer standard streaming
wont benefit one iota. Lowest common denominator wins here and that's
the programme source.
It's a shame that :-
1. The Wii can't support 720p or 1080p
2. They could have allowed the BBC HD content to be used.

yeah the picture's not great but it beats watching it on my laptop.

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

"reg" wrote in message ...

"David" wrote in message
...
Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player
etc. handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

i dont find the picture very clear on the Wii, its not 100% clear.

It's a LOT better than it was when you used to have to use the "Internet
Channel" and use the mobile-phone version of the i-Player.

If you use the better cable (component video) to connect to the TV, the
picture quality is not too bad. Not up to HD standards, but not far off the
original Freeview.

Allan

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Nov 26, 7:22 am, Harry wrote:

No point in getting component cables as the iplayer standard streaming
wont benefit one iota. Lowest common denominator wins here and that's
the programme source.
It's a shame that :-
1. The Wii can't support 720p or 1080p
2. They could have allowed the BBC HD content to be used.

yeah the picture's not great but it beats watching it on my laptop.



On the contrary, it is noticeable a LOT clearer on the component cable.

Allan

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

reg wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
Wii and i-player for example along with other platforms it is being added
to. What about ITV, Ch4 and Five programmers will the Wii/i-player etc.
handle these?
I do hope it not a case of being incompatible.
Regards
David

i dont find the picture very clear on the Wii, its not 100% clear.


Its not going to be as good as broadcast. It is using more advanced
compression but that isn't enough to get as good as 'normal' broadcast DTV.

MPEG2 video on terrestrial 4-6Mb/s, which is limiting sometimes and the
picture can still exhibit compression artifacts on fast moving scenes.

MPEG4 on iplayer could get away with 2Mb/s maybe, but Wii iplayer is
around 820Kb/s apparently, and that is equivalent to PC decoding at
500Kb/s (less compressed for the Wii's lower power processor perhaps) so
its 1/4 as good as broadcast.

(figures from posts on Digitalspy)

--
Tony

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

larkim wrote:
On Nov 26, 9:22 am, Harry wrote:
The new Wii iPlayer Channel has allowed the BBC to write an app which
is specifically tailored to the broadcasts that it serves up over
iPlayer, so I guess they've made it as good as they think it can be.
Its certainly much better than watching via the browser on the Wii,
and whilst I don't think anyone would want to use it for watching the
glory of a BBC wildlife programme, it would be absolutely fine and
watchable for something like Casualty etc.
Matt
Ideal, a rubbish player for rubbish programs ;-

(Smiley noted!)

A touch dismissive don't you think!?! The player itself certainly
isn't rubbish, and its more than watchable (for me on a 37inch
Panasonic LCD). Of course, it doesn't compare with watching "live" or
watching a perfect quality reproduction via a PVR, but if you were
organised enough to record everything you might want to watch, then
you wouldn't need iPlayer would you?

Its much better than I thought it would be!

Matt

Me too, I tried it before using the browser and it didn't work, I got
picture for 3s, then buffering for 10s, then picture for 3s...

I used it recently on a good Sony 40" and the results were acceptable,
nothing horrible and unwatchable and no stopping. Not dissimalar to VHS
which most people were more than happy with (until it broke down).

I predict it will be a big hit and all these issues of ISP traffic
shaping will come out. I use a 5GB capped service to get good QoS
(mainly for SIP VOIP services), and I need to wait for ADSL2+ on my
exchange before my ISP will give me a decent data allowance at the same
price to use it more regularly. As it is my work, and my partners
'Vampire wars' is using more than the cap and costing an extra £2
penalty a month. Before Vampire Wars and iPlayer 3GB/month was more than
enough.

--
Tony

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...

get-iplayer is a command line programme for MS windows.

False.

Not here.

I installed the get_iplayer and when the programme is run a black command
line interface opens, downloads a very long page of data and then comes to
rest with a command line prompt:
C:\Progam Files\get_iplayer_
flashing cursor waiting for text input.

I call that a command line interface.

Roger R

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On Nov 26, 7:10*pm, "Allan" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Nov 26, 7:22 am, Harry wrote:

No point in getting component cables as the iplayer standard streaming
wont benefit one iota. Lowest common denominator wins here and that's
the programme source.
It's a shame that :-
1. The Wii can't support 720p or 1080p
2. They could have allowed the BBC HD content to be used.

yeah the picture's not great but it beats watching it on my laptop.



On the contrary, it is noticeable a LOT clearer on the component cable.

Allan

I get that using component would clear up the overall Wii picture, but
does it actually improve the iplayer picture? If that's the case is it
worth the £20 or so for the component cables?

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is itcompatible?
 

On Nov 27, 8:47*am, Mike wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:10*pm, "Allan" wrote:





"Mike" wrote in message

....
On Nov 26, 7:22 am, Harry wrote:

No point in getting component cables as the iplayer standard streaming
wont benefit one iota. Lowest common denominator wins here and that's
the programme source.
It's a shame that :-
1. The Wii can't support 720p or 1080p
2. They could have allowed the BBC HD content to be used.

yeah the picture's not great but it beats watching it on my laptop.

On the contrary, it is noticeable a LOT clearer on the component cable.

Allan

I get that using component would clear up the overall Wii picture, but
does it actually improve the iplayer picture? If that's the case is it
worth the £20 or so for the component cables?

On its own? Probably not. But as an improvement for the overall Wii
picture across games and TV display generally I think the component
cable is worth it. Strangely not all games are available in 480p, and
we've got at least one game which stores its saved game files under
different "names" depending on whether it is running as a 480p or 576i
- so when my eldest son came to play Excite Trucks he discovered all
of his saved games had vanished because I had changed the cables
over!!

Matt

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On Nov 27, 9:19*am, Jim Mason
wrote:
In article 0eacfeca-db2d-47af-afe5-
,
says...



On Nov 26, 7:10*pm, "Allan" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

....
On Nov 26, 7:22 am, Harry wrote:

No point in getting component cables as the iplayer standard streaming
wont benefit one iota. Lowest common denominator wins here and that's
the programme source.
It's a shame that :-
1. The Wii can't support 720p or 1080p
2. They could have allowed the BBC HD content to be used.

yeah the picture's not great but it beats watching it on my laptop.

On the contrary, it is noticeable a LOT clearer on the component cable.

Allan

I get that using component would clear up the overall Wii picture, but
does it actually improve the iplayer picture? If that's the case is it
worth the £20 or so for the component cables?

£20!

http://tinyurl.com/yfzmucq

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wii-HD-Cable.../dp/B000NUR582

Blimey! Think i'll give that a go,.

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is itcompatible?
 

On Nov 27, 10:00*am, Mike wrote:
On Nov 27, 9:19*am, Jim Mason





wrote:
In article 0eacfeca-db2d-47af-afe5-
,
says...

On Nov 26, 7:10*pm, "Allan" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Nov 26, 7:22 am, Harry wrote:

No point in getting component cables as the iplayer standard streaming
wont benefit one iota. Lowest common denominator wins here and that's
the programme source.
It's a shame that :-
1. The Wii can't support 720p or 1080p
2. They could have allowed the BBC HD content to be used.

yeah the picture's not great but it beats watching it on my laptop.

On the contrary, it is noticeable a LOT clearer on the component cable.

Allan

I get that using component would clear up the overall Wii picture, but
does it actually improve the iplayer picture? If that's the case is it
worth the £20 or so for the component cables?

£20!

http://tinyurl.com/yfzmucq

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wii-HD-Cable.../dp/B000NUR582

Blimey! Think i'll give that a go,.

Definitely worth £3.32!!!

Matt

Seems to be a lot of interest in BBC i-player here, is it compatible?
 

larkim wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:47 am, Mike wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:10 pm, "Allan" wrote:





"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Nov 26, 7:22 am, Harry wrote:
No point in getting component cables as the iplayer standard streaming
wont benefit one iota. Lowest common denominator wins here and that's
the programme source.
It's a shame that :-
1. The Wii can't support 720p or 1080p
2. They could have allowed the BBC HD content to be used.
yeah the picture's not great but it beats watching it on my laptop.
On the contrary, it is noticeable a LOT clearer on the component cable.
Allan
I get that using component would clear up the overall Wii picture, but
does it actually improve the iplayer picture? If that's the case is it
worth the £20 or so for the component cables?

On its own? Probably not. But as an improvement for the overall Wii
picture across games and TV display generally I think the component
cable is worth it. Strangely not all games are available in 480p, and
we've got at least one game which stores its saved game files under
different "names" depending on whether it is running as a 480p or 576i
- so when my eldest son came to play Excite Trucks he discovered all
of his saved games had vanished because I had changed the cables
over!!

Matt

There are 2 or 3 types of component, in the US people talk about
component for HD, but in Europe we have been using RGB as an upgrade
against composite for many years on DVDs and DTV, and even in the
distant past on BBC micro's. The resolution is the same but the colour
signals are easier to seperate for the TV and hence better quality, CRTs
are pixel perfect on RGB connections, LCDs still get shadow/ringing and
crap like that from the scaling/deinterlacing process. The Wii's
progressive is fairly intermediate, but to be honest I havn't tried it.

RGB is a good improvement on native Pal scanning TVs like CRTs, but
virtually all panel pixel based TVs use scalers which lose most of the
benefit. In many ways my Sony LCD has a better composite picture than
RGB, but RGB is just better enough to bother.

--
Tony