Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

Well, the sound quality on XFACTOR is still to the same very poor standard.
The canned laughter and screaming at a higher level than presenter and
judge's voices is really poor. Thank God my TV has a volume limiter. The
only problem is that nearly all the audio is set at the same output level
and compression is being used - so it sounds a total mess.
All they need to do is turn the crowd level to a quarter of the presenter
and judge's voices and more importantly learn how to use a sound mixer.

Why is ITV employing unqualified people who have not got a clue when it
comes to sound production!

Using a compressor to raise the canned laughter, screaming and crowd noise
is terrible!
The same audio samples are used each week.

Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

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wrote

never mind that, the biggest crime is that we can still actually hear
Jedward.



Surely all you can hear is the backing singers?
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Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

"Roger" wrote in message
...
Well, the sound quality on XFACTOR is still to the same very poor
standard.

Why would they bother for the kind of ignoramii that watch such a load of
crap as that?!

Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

"Roger" wrote in message
...
Well, the sound quality on XFACTOR is still to the same very poor
standard. The canned laughter and screaming at a higher level than
presenter and judge's voices is really poor. Thank God my TV has a volume
limiter. The only problem is that nearly all the audio is set at the same
output level and compression is being used - so it sounds a total mess.
All they need to do is turn the crowd level to a quarter of the presenter
and judge's voices and more importantly learn how to use a sound mixer.

Why is ITV employing unqualified people who have not got a clue when it
comes to sound production!

Using a compressor to raise the canned laughter, screaming and crowd noise
is terrible!
The same audio samples are used each week.



1. As you were informed last week, ITV is a commercial television channel
and the sound quality of this programme is delivered to the required spec,
as outlined by the producers of the show, by skilled engineers.

2. Watch something else.

3. Do you really have to start a new thread every Saturday and Sunday
containing the same ********?

Sheila

Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

I imagine they are hoping everyone will switch off..

Why do you watch it if it causes you so much pain?

I can recall a lot of what you are complaining about years ago on a show
called Game for Laugh.
It was strident and over audienced.

When you say canned laughter, well in a way, it tends to be recorded
sometimes at the same show, sometimes previously, and added to beef up the
sound. I just do not understand how anyone can think the public won't notice
but for many years its been going on. Cut aways of the audience occurs as
well, often recorded before the live show begins, of audiences clapping
laughing etc.
Brian

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"Roger" wrote in message
...
Well, the sound quality on XFACTOR is still to the same very poor
standard. The canned laughter and screaming at a higher level than
presenter and judge's voices is really poor. Thank God my TV has a volume
limiter. The only problem is that nearly all the audio is set at the same
output level and compression is being used - so it sounds a total mess.
All they need to do is turn the crowd level to a quarter of the presenter
and judge's voices and more importantly learn how to use a sound mixer.

Why is ITV employing unqualified people who have not got a clue when it
comes to sound production!

Using a compressor to raise the canned laughter, screaming and crowd noise
is terrible!
The same audio samples are used each week.

Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

In article ,
Roger wrote:
Well, the sound quality on XFACTOR is still to the same very poor
standard. The canned laughter and screaming at a higher level than
presenter and judge's voices is really poor.

As it happened I watched it and the presenter was never once drowned out.

Thank God my TV has a volume limiter. The only problem is that nearly
all the audio is set at the same output level and compression is being
used - so it sounds a total mess. All they need to do is turn the crowd
level to a quarter of the presenter and judge's voices and more
importantly learn how to use a sound mixer.

If you'd half a clue you'd have heard that the 'crowd' was entirely spill
onto the panel mics. They should have been closer - but I'd guess
production wouldn't allow it.

Why is ITV employing unqualified people who have not got a clue when it
comes to sound production!

******** to both those 'points'.

Using a compressor to raise the canned laughter, screaming and crowd
noise is terrible! The same audio samples are used each week.

Wonder what prog you were watching. I wasn't aware of any 'canned'
reaction - nor does a show like this need it. Of course you could
occasionally hear compressors pumping. Anyone who's had anything to do
with a live show like this knows it's inevitable.

What I would say is why were you watching it? Only reason would be for eye
candy - not for the music. Only one of them could pitch correctly for most
of the time. The rest - I've heard better at karaoke.

Oh - you said earlier the adverts were louder than the prog. That too is
rubbish. You're not using a 5.1 surround system with the main channels
switched off, are you?

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In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
When you say canned laughter, well in a way, it tends to be recorded
sometimes at the same show, sometimes previously, and added to beef up
the sound. I just do not understand how anyone can think the public
won't notice but for many years its been going on. Cut aways of the
audience occurs as well, often recorded before the live show begins, of
audiences clapping laughing etc.

It's been common for years to use canned applause on a live show to start
off the applause - you simply can't get an audience to react quick enough.
Recorded comedy shows usually also have laughter added - all to often
there are re-takes and the gag doesn't get the same reaction second time
round. But what many think is canned reaction is just vicious operation of
the audience fader - a technique perfected by LWT many years ago. ;-)

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Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

In article ,
ian field wrote:

"Roger" wrote in message
...
Well, the sound quality on XFACTOR is still to the same very poor
standard.

Why would they bother for the kind of ignoramii that watch such a load
of crap as that?!

Roger is talking his usual crap. It was actually pretty well handled for a
live show of this type. The BBC would have done no better.

That it is the most popular show on TV defies explanation. The standard of
the talent was so much poorer than the original Pop Idol that Will Young
won. But I've only watched it tonight and won't bother again.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

Yes, Game for a Laugh was lwt. I agree about the retakes, but this cannot be
done on live material, but there is nothing to say you cannot use some of
last weeks applause to beef up this weeks snoozing audience sound.
As for canned laughter, well, its really hideous. Its so false and obviously
faded in and out.
Brian

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
When you say canned laughter, well in a way, it tends to be recorded
sometimes at the same show, sometimes previously, and added to beef up
the sound. I just do not understand how anyone can think the public
won't notice but for many years its been going on. Cut aways of the
audience occurs as well, often recorded before the live show begins, of
audiences clapping laughing etc.

It's been common for years to use canned applause on a live show to start
off the applause - you simply can't get an audience to react quick enough.
Recorded comedy shows usually also have laughter added - all to often
there are re-takes and the gag doesn't get the same reaction second time
round. But what many think is canned reaction is just vicious operation of
the audience fader - a technique perfected by LWT many years ago. ;-)

--
*There's two theories to arguing with a woman. Neither one works *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Even more poor sound on XFACTOR!
 

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

It's been common for years to use canned applause on a live show to start
off the applause - you simply can't get an audience to react quick enough.
Recorded comedy shows usually also have laughter added - all to often
there are re-takes and the gag doesn't get the same reaction second time
round. But what many think is canned reaction is just vicious operation of
the audience fader - a technique perfected by LWT many years ago. ;-)


Is that on commercial stations, Dave?

On Points of View a "bbc spokesman" stated that canned laughter is never
used on BBC shows. Mind you that probably only means made in a BBC studio!

Richard