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EPG - Electronic Program Guides
I am getting frustrated!
I want to buy a 40" - 42" HDTV. I want it to have a functional Electronic Program Guide for OTA programming. I know that some Samsung models have it and some Sony models supposedly do also. I called Samsung and after lots of "hold on a minute and I will check", I was told that NONE of their models have EPG. I know this is false, because a relative has one and it indeed has an EPG for OTA. It is fairly good, but does not show a grid like my Samsung 260 HDTV STB has. Any one have any idea which model (under $1000) has a good EPG? Thanks in advance, Richard |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:26:48 -0800, "Richard C."
wrote: I am getting frustrated! I want to buy a 40" - 42" HDTV. I want it to have a functional Electronic Program Guide for OTA programming. I know that some Samsung models have it and some Sony models supposedly do also. I called Samsung and after lots of "hold on a minute and I will check", I was told that NONE of their models have EPG. I know this is false, because a relative has one and it indeed has an EPG for OTA. It is fairly good, but does not show a grid like my Samsung 260 HDTV STB has. Any one have any idea which model (under $1000) has a good EPG? First, you need to be precise on for what broadcast system you need it (what part of the world, which provider..) Second, you need to be precise on what you think is a good user interface. I don't like the versions I have seen with horizontal time axis because the shorter programs with normal title length and normal length programs with longer title lengths are not presented in a way that is understandable, unless I move the marker around to highlight those programs separately. The best EPG presentation I have is in a satellite receiver box that can show both the program titles and the first heading line, inter mixed, on the same screen using a vertical time axis. Then I can "skip" one page at a time and only highlight the ones that look interesting to read all the detailed information. /Jan |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
"Jan B" wrote in message
... : On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:26:48 -0800, "Richard C." : wrote: : : I am getting frustrated! : : I want to buy a 40" - 42" HDTV. : I want it to have a functional Electronic Program Guide for OTA programming. : : I know that some Samsung models have it and some Sony models supposedly do : also. : I called Samsung and after lots of "hold on a minute and I will check", I : was told : that NONE of their models have EPG. I know this is false, because a : relative has one and : it indeed has an EPG for OTA. It is fairly good, but does not show a grid : like my Samsung : 260 HDTV STB has. : : Any one have any idea which model (under $1000) has a good EPG? : : First, you need to be precise on for what broadcast system you need : it (what part of the world, which provider..) : : Second, you need to be precise on what you think is a good user : interface. I don't like the versions I have seen with horizontal time : axis because the shorter programs with normal title length and normal : length programs with longer title lengths are not presented in a way : that is understandable, unless I move the marker around to highlight : those programs separately. : : The best EPG presentation I have is in a satellite receiver box that : can show both the program titles and the first heading line, inter : mixed, on the same screen using a vertical time axis. Then I can : "skip" one page at a time and only highlight the ones that look : interesting to read all the detailed information. : /Jan ================= OK USA ATSC OTA |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:35:05 -0800, "Richard C."
wrote: USA ATSC OTA Yeah. I didn't know there were such things until I plugged in my NTSC converter box to a $99 old 15", and there it was! My Sony 32" HD doesn't have a darn thing. Go figure. J. |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
JRStern wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:35:05 -0800, "Richard C." wrote: USA ATSC OTA Yeah. I didn't know there were such things until I plugged in my NTSC converter box to a $99 old 15", and there it was! My Sony 32" HD doesn't have a darn thing. Go figure. J. Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? |
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"JRStern" wrote in message
... : On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:35:05 -0800, "Richard C." : wrote: : : USA : ATSC : OTA : : Yeah. I didn't know there were such things until I plugged in my NTSC : converter box to a $99 old 15", and there it was! My Sony 32" HD : doesn't have a darn thing. Go figure. : : J. : ======================= Some Sony models do. Read the manual or try different things on the remote. I still want to get a TV that has one. |
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Richard C. wrote:
"JRStern" wrote in message ... : On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:35:05 -0800, "Richard C." : wrote: : : USA : ATSC : OTA : : Yeah. I didn't know there were such things until I plugged in my NTSC : converter box to a $99 old 15", and there it was! My Sony 32" HD : doesn't have a darn thing. Go figure. : : J. : ======================= Some Sony models do. Read the manual or try different things on the remote. I still want to get a TV that has one. Most Vizio TVs have a complete program guide that comes from the PSIP data. Some hgher end sony TVs have TV Guide on Screen. Ron |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill
wrote: JRStern wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:35:05 -0800, "Richard C." wrote: USA ATSC OTA Yeah. I didn't know there were such things until I plugged in my NTSC converter box to a $99 old 15", and there it was! My Sony 32" HD doesn't have a darn thing. Go figure. J. Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I've used TitanTV (http://www.titantv.com/), in the past with great satisfaction - included one click scheduling for my USB tuners. They made some GUI changes earlier this year and became useless to me, but they may still be of use to you as I've read few complaints from others. After the change I switched to Zap2It (http://www.zap2it.com/) and have stuck with it since, although it does not interface with my tuners. |
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"Richard C." wrote:
Do you have any info or a link to which Vizio models? That sounds like exactly what I want. Thanks! Try checking the Vizio website. The information is there. Chip -- -------------------- http://NewsReader.Com/ -------------------- Usenet Newsgroup Service $9.95/Month 30GB |
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On Nov 18, 7:05*pm, "Richard C." wrote:
Finding accurate info on EPG is almost impossible. Which is why I use Yahoo TV listings to verify what is on. I know it doesn't auto program my DVR's but the info is rarely wrong and I find the 'original air date' very useful for catching the occasional missed episode. Yes, I keep a log of what was missed, so far 2 shows out of 19 events per week. G² |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill
wrote: Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I use it on the computer, don't have it tied to the tv. Was using Yahoo, but about two years ago they redid the interface - and it didn't work right for at least a year! So I switched to zap2it - but sometimes they annoy users a lot with pop-ups. J. |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
On Nov 19, 5:22*pm, JRStern wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote: Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I use it on the computer, don't have it tied to the tv. Was using Yahoo, but about two years ago they redid the interface - and it didn't work right for at least a year! *So I switched to zap2it - but sometimes they annoy users a lot with pop-ups. J. Yeah, you're right in that Yahoo totally screwed it up back then but it seems to be OK now. I just set the machines to record a specific time every week. If they rerun somethineg, I check to see if I'm missing that show and discard it if all's OK. The computer is on anyway and it costs almost nothing to record. Given a recent thread about 'giving away a show', I just took in the 3 CSI shows in the trilogy for a co-worker. He and his wife really liked it without the spots. G² |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:22:53 -0800, JRStern
wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote: Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I use it on the computer, don't have it tied to the tv. Was using Yahoo, but about two years ago they redid the interface - and it didn't work right for at least a year! So I switched to zap2it - but sometimes they annoy users a lot with pop-ups. J. I've used the free "The Proxomitron" (http://www.proxomitron.info/index.html Files tab) since Win98 thru XP and now W7. I've not seen an unwanted pop-up nor advert in a decade of visiting web sites. Every once in a while, I disable The Proxomitron to get some idea of what others are writing about when they refer to adverts on web sites. Pathetic, as bad as TV. True, Prox may require some techie skills to provide features not in the out-of-the-box program - sadly, the programmer died several years ago so no enhancements have been made since - but it is extensible with the use of "regular expressions, the documentation is helpful, and there is user support in this area (see the Resources tab on the web site above). |
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I've used TitanTV (http://www.titantv.com/), in the past with great satisfaction - included one click scheduling for my USB tuners. They made some GUI changes earlier this year and became useless to me, but they may still be of use to you as I've read few complaints from others. After the change I switched to Zap2It (http://www.zap2it.com/) and have stuck with it since, although it does not interface with my tuners. I've been using TitanTV for some years now, and wonder what happened to make it useless to you? It seems quite customizable. It doesn't work on my Mac to set the DirecTV tuner, but DTV has an interface that I can use on the Mac or iPhone. -- John McWilliams |
EPG - Electronic Program Guides
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:22:03 -0800, John McWilliams
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I've used TitanTV (http://www.titantv.com/), in the past with great satisfaction - included one click scheduling for my USB tuners. They made some GUI changes earlier this year and became useless to me, but they may still be of use to you as I've read few complaints from others. After the change I switched to Zap2It (http://www.zap2it.com/) and have stuck with it since, although it does not interface with my tuners. I've been using TitanTV for some years now, and wonder what happened to make it useless to you? It seems quite customizable. It doesn't work on my Mac to set the DirecTV tuner, but DTV has an interface that I can use on the Mac or iPhone. Two major TitanTV problems: 1) for reason(s) unknown to me, their web page frequently loses my zip code and assigns me to Ventura, CA? 2) it no longer shows the correct TWC digital channels for my zip code, when it's correct. Here the HD channels are in the STB 400 range, Titan lists them as 900 range, which they once were under Adelphia but have not been for a few years. Annoyance: When I set the HDTV only option on, it lists the analog channels as well, with an HD in their listing. One ongoing problem: I have two tuners plugged in to this PC. Neither Titan nor the tuner manufacturer has figured out (or cares to figure out) how to schedule the second tuner with the "one click" feature. With Zap2It I at least get the right channel lineup and the 6 hour spread but, sadly, no "one click" scheduling; I set up the OnAir tuners' recording schedule manually;-( Also, Zap2It does not seem to have a default start time, which I'd set on Titan to 6PM. So there is always that extra, and annoying, mouse use to open the TOD selector before the schedule becomes useful. But then, I'm retired and in less of a hurry than some others might be;-) |
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:22:03 -0800, John McWilliams wrote: wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I've used TitanTV (http://www.titantv.com/), in the past with great satisfaction - included one click scheduling for my USB tuners. They made some GUI changes earlier this year and became useless to me, but they may still be of use to you as I've read few complaints from others. After the change I switched to Zap2It (http://www.zap2it.com/) and have stuck with it since, although it does not interface with my tuners. I've been using TitanTV for some years now, and wonder what happened to make it useless to you? It seems quite customizable. It doesn't work on my Mac to set the DirecTV tuner, but DTV has an interface that I can use on the Mac or iPhone. Two major TitanTV problems: 1) for reason(s) unknown to me, their web page frequently loses my zip code and assigns me to Ventura, CA? 2) it no longer shows the correct TWC digital channels for my zip code, when it's correct. Here the HD channels are in the STB 400 range, Titan lists them as 900 range, which they once were under Adelphia but have not been for a few years. Annoyance: When I set the HDTV only option on, it lists the analog channels as well, with an HD in their listing. One ongoing problem: I have two tuners plugged in to this PC. Neither Titan nor the tuner manufacturer has figured out (or cares to figure out) how to schedule the second tuner with the "one click" feature. With Zap2It I at least get the right channel lineup and the 6 hour spread but, sadly, no "one click" scheduling; I set up the OnAir tuners' recording schedule manually;-( Also, Zap2It does not seem to have a default start time, which I'd set on Titan to 6PM. So there is always that extra, and annoying, mouse use to open the TOD selector before the schedule becomes useful. But then, I'm retired and in less of a hurry than some others might be;-) It sounds like you may have screwed up cookies, accessing one some time, and another the next. One way to find out is to use a browser that you haven't yet used to go to Titan and set up a new account, or log into the old one and reset it competely. I deleted all cookies (over 6 IIRC) when I had similar problem, and it's been fine ever since. I don't think Macs can use the one click scheduling, though I would be happy to be shown otherwise. -- John McWilliams |
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:22:16 -0800, John McWilliams
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:22:03 -0800, John McWilliams wrote: wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I've used TitanTV (http://www.titantv.com/), in the past with great satisfaction - included one click scheduling for my USB tuners. They made some GUI changes earlier this year and became useless to me, but they may still be of use to you as I've read few complaints from others. After the change I switched to Zap2It (http://www.zap2it.com/) and have stuck with it since, although it does not interface with my tuners. I've been using TitanTV for some years now, and wonder what happened to make it useless to you? It seems quite customizable. It doesn't work on my Mac to set the DirecTV tuner, but DTV has an interface that I can use on the Mac or iPhone. Two major TitanTV problems: 1) for reason(s) unknown to me, their web page frequently loses my zip code and assigns me to Ventura, CA? 2) it no longer shows the correct TWC digital channels for my zip code, when it's correct. Here the HD channels are in the STB 400 range, Titan lists them as 900 range, which they once were under Adelphia but have not been for a few years. Annoyance: When I set the HDTV only option on, it lists the analog channels as well, with an HD in their listing. One ongoing problem: I have two tuners plugged in to this PC. Neither Titan nor the tuner manufacturer has figured out (or cares to figure out) how to schedule the second tuner with the "one click" feature. With Zap2It I at least get the right channel lineup and the 6 hour spread but, sadly, no "one click" scheduling; I set up the OnAir tuners' recording schedule manually;-( Also, Zap2It does not seem to have a default start time, which I'd set on Titan to 6PM. So there is always that extra, and annoying, mouse use to open the TOD selector before the schedule becomes useful. But then, I'm retired and in less of a hurry than some others might be;-) It sounds like you may have screwed up cookies, accessing one some time, and another the next. One way to find out is to use a browser that you haven't yet used to go to Titan and set up a new account, or log into the old one and reset it competely. I deleted all cookies (over 6 IIRC) when I had similar problem, and it's been fine ever since. I don't think Macs can use the one click scheduling, though I would be happy to be shown otherwise. Thanks John! I just switched to Windows 7 (from XP) two weeks ago. In replying to your earlier query, I refreshed my dwindling memory by going to the TitanTV site for the first time since. I had to sign in and provide the password, so there were no cookies from them on this PC until that time. When the schedule opened, it was for Ventura. After I corrected my zip, the TWC Digital listing showed the correct city but the incomplete HDTV channel listing placed them all in the 900 range. Many of the lower analog channels showed an "HD" in their program boxes. Pretty much useless. I had enjoyed using Titan for at least 5 years, maybe more. They once scheduled my Hauppauge analog tuners and switched to the OnAir digital tuners without missing a beat. No longer. Cest la vie:-( |
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:22:16 -0800, John McWilliams wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:22:03 -0800, John McWilliams wrote: wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 -0500, Rick Merrill Has anyone used an on-line /on-your-computer EPG? I've used TitanTV (http://www.titantv.com/), in the past with great satisfaction - included one click scheduling for my USB tuners. They made some GUI changes earlier this year and became useless to me, but they may still be of use to you as I've read few complaints from others. After the change I switched to Zap2It (http://www.zap2it.com/) and have stuck with it since, although it does not interface with my tuners. I've been using TitanTV for some years now, and wonder what happened to make it useless to you? It seems quite customizable. It doesn't work on my Mac to set the DirecTV tuner, but DTV has an interface that I can use on the Mac or iPhone. Two major TitanTV problems: 1) for reason(s) unknown to me, their web page frequently loses my zip code and assigns me to Ventura, CA? 2) it no longer shows the correct TWC digital channels for my zip code, when it's correct. Here the HD channels are in the STB 400 range, Titan lists them as 900 range, which they once were under Adelphia but have not been for a few years. Annoyance: When I set the HDTV only option on, it lists the analog channels as well, with an HD in their listing. One ongoing problem: I have two tuners plugged in to this PC. Neither Titan nor the tuner manufacturer has figured out (or cares to figure out) how to schedule the second tuner with the "one click" feature. With Zap2It I at least get the right channel lineup and the 6 hour spread but, sadly, no "one click" scheduling; I set up the OnAir tuners' recording schedule manually;-( Also, Zap2It does not seem to have a default start time, which I'd set on Titan to 6PM. So there is always that extra, and annoying, mouse use to open the TOD selector before the schedule becomes useful. But then, I'm retired and in less of a hurry than some others might be;-) It sounds like you may have screwed up cookies, accessing one some time, and another the next. One way to find out is to use a browser that you haven't yet used to go to Titan and set up a new account, or log into the old one and reset it competely. I deleted all cookies (over 6 IIRC) when I had similar problem, and it's been fine ever since. I don't think Macs can use the one click scheduling, though I would be happy to be shown otherwise. Thanks John! I just switched to Windows 7 (from XP) two weeks ago. In replying to your earlier query, I refreshed my dwindling memory by going to the TitanTV site for the first time since. I had to sign in and provide the password, so there were no cookies from them on this PC until that time. When the schedule opened, it was for Ventura. After I corrected my zip, the TWC Digital listing showed the correct city but the incomplete HDTV channel listing placed them all in the 900 range. Many of the lower analog channels showed an "HD" in their program boxes. Pretty much useless. I had enjoyed using Titan for at least 5 years, maybe more. They once scheduled my Hauppauge analog tuners and switched to the OnAir digital tuners without missing a beat. No longer. Cest la vie:-( One more thing: try setting up a "new" guide by choosing "Channel Lineup" - " Create new lineup." It may be that you'll be able to choose a provider setting that matches what you get. OTOH, maybe not- I mess only with DirecTV and Comcast cable at home, and local cable when I travel.. Good luck and joyeux dindon a vous.... -- john mcwilliams |
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