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i would like some advice,i would like to purchase a flatscreen tv with
freeview for the kitchen, will it be possible to have sky on it through the
airial cable,because the signal on my old set goes through the old analogue
tuner (channel 68)but the freeview is a digital tuner can this be tuned to
the sky signal

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"Tim" wrote in message ...
i would like some advice,i would like to purchase a flatscreen tv with freeview for the kitchen, will it be possible to have sky on
it through the airial cable,because the signal on my old set goes through the old analogue tuner (channel 68)but the freeview is a
digital tuner can this be tuned to the sky signal

I have yet to see a TV with an integrated digital tuner that did not also
have an analogue tuner. In the future things may well be different, but for the time
being, you will be OK.

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"Tim" wrote in message
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i would like some advice,i would like to purchase a flatscreen tv with
freeview for the kitchen, will it be possible to have sky on it through
the airial cable,because the signal on my old set goes through the old
analogue tuner (channel 68)but the freeview is a digital tuner can this be
tuned to the sky signal

I have yet to see a TV with an integrated digital tuner that did not also
have an analogue tuner. In the future things may well be different, but
for the time
being, you will be OK.

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Use a Scart lead.

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What ya on about?
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"Tim" wrote in message
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i would like some advice,i would like to purchase a flatscreen tv with
freeview for the kitchen, will it be possible to have sky on it through the
airial cable,because the signal on my old set goes through the old analogue
tuner (channel 68)but the freeview is a digital tuner can this be tuned to
the sky signal

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David wrote:
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"Tim" wrote in message
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i would like some advice,i would like to purchase a flatscreen tv
with freeview for the kitchen, will it be possible to have sky on
it through the airial cable,because the signal on my old set goes
through the old analogue tuner (channel 68)but the freeview is a
digital tuner can this be tuned to the sky signal

I have yet to see a TV with an integrated digital tuner that did not
also have an analogue tuner. In the future things may well be
different, but for the time
being, you will be OK.

--

Use a Scart lead.

That's a ridiculous suggestion to make for a TV in a different room.
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In article , Adrian
wrote:
Use a Scart lead.

That's a ridiculous suggestion to make for a TV in a different room.

Depends on how far away the other room is. A good quality SCART lead
with separately screened co-ax cables should be able to manage at least
30 metres without any adverse effects.

If you can't buy a cable long enough and don't want to bother making
your own, it might be easier to put the longest run under the
floorboards in the form of separate cables to wall-mounting junction
boxes with SCART sockets. Use separate 75Ohm co-axes for the video
channels and you might get away with 100metres. One day, when all TV
sets have those neat little digital sockets, it can all be replaced, or
perhaps you could leave the cables in place and simply change the
sockets on the wallboxes.

Rod.
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:37:38 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Adrian
wrote:
Use a Scart lead.

That's a ridiculous suggestion to make for a TV in a different room.

Depends on how far away the other room is. A good quality SCART lead
with separately screened co-ax cables should be able to manage at least
30 metres without any adverse effects.

The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.

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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:37:38 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Adrian
wrote:
Use a Scart lead.

That's a ridiculous suggestion to make for a TV in a different room.

Depends on how far away the other room is. A good quality SCART lead
with separately screened co-ax cables should be able to manage at least
30 metres without any adverse effects.

The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.

Mrs. training may solve this design fault.

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In article ,
wrote:
The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.

Stop the box moving, then. Belling Lee aerial connectors don't lock either.
Nor do phonos or IEC mains connectors.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.

Stop the box moving, then. Belling Lee aerial connectors don't lock either.
Nor do phonos or IEC mains connectors.

But those connectors' width/connection depth ratio is low - meaning that
it's difficult for them to be twisted out of the socket - they
generally have to be pulled straight out for them to become
disconnected. SCART on the other hand is very wide and quite shallow,
meaning that the socket can be rocked/twisted along long axis, leaving
it sufficiently connected one end to appear connected (and retained in
the socket) but sufficiently disconnected that it doesn't work.

And don't get me started on the near impossibility to get the cable in
the right way around without visibility of the socket. Even feeling
with my fingers to find our the orientation of the socket doesn't help.
(Of course - remembering which side the cable came out of the plug
before you disconnected the cable may be helpful!)

D

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And don't get me started on the near impossibility to get the cable in the
right way around without visibility of the socket. Even feeling with my
fingers to find our the orientation of the socket doesn't help. (Of
course - remembering which side the cable came out of the plug before you
disconnected the cable may be helpful!)

And those hi-quality flat cables are great except that they only bend in one
dimension! I should probably have thought of that but who has a range of
audio/video boxes where the SCARTs are all exactly at the same point
relative to the sides of the boxes? Trying to get them to connect "over to
the left of the box above" is a real pain!

Won't be making that mistake again.

Paul DS.

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In article ,
Paul D.Smith wrote:
And don't get me started on the near impossibility to get the cable in
the right way around without visibility of the socket. Even feeling
with my fingers to find our the orientation of the socket doesn't
help. (Of course - remembering which side the cable came out of the
plug before you disconnected the cable may be helpful!)

And those hi-quality flat cables are great except that they only bend in
one dimension! I should probably have thought of that but who has a
range of audio/video boxes where the SCARTs are all exactly at the same
point relative to the sides of the boxes? Trying to get them to
connect "over to the left of the box above" is a real pain!

Won't be making that mistake again.

I bought some ribbon SCARTS from CPC - and they're pretty flexible. Or at
least flexible enough for something which is designed for a 'permanent'
installation. Come in a decent range of lengths too. Only had to shorten a
couple. ;-)

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wrote in message ...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:37:38 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Adrian
wrote:
Use a Scart lead.

That's a ridiculous suggestion to make for a TV in a different room.

Depends on how far away the other room is. A good quality SCART lead
with separately screened co-ax cables should be able to manage at least
30 metres without any adverse effects.

The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.

I agree. You would never see such a thing on a piece of Pro kit.
The Americans seem to manage without them too.

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%Profound_observation%

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The Americans seem to manage without them too.

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What do they use?
Thanks
David

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The Americans seem to manage without them too.

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What do they use?

Separate RCA/Phono, or perhaps BNC for video.
Not sure about digital interconnects, I expect HDMI like us.

--
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%Profound_observation%

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In article ,
wrote:
The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.

Yes, the plugs are truly awful, but if that's what your TV is fitted
with, then if you want something better than composite video quality,
that's what you have to use. I suppose they're intended for the sort of
domestic situation where they're plugged once and left forever.

Rod.
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In article , Graham. wrote:
The Americans seem to manage without them too.

--

What do they use?

Separate RCA/Phono, or perhaps BNC for video.

Phono isn't exactly a brilliant idea either, especially for audio.
Unless you remember to turn the volume down they're guaranteed to
provide a blast of mains hum as the screen connection breaks before the
signal.

Rod.
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"David" wrote in message
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"Graham." wrote in message
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The Americans seem to manage without them too.

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What do they use?

Separate RCA/Phono, or perhaps BNC for video.

So how they handle the other functions that the Scart does, like Widescreen
switching etc.
BNC is that composite video only?

Seems Europe is ahead on connections.

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David

FREESAT HD as it is now it is a joke.

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In article , Paul D.Smith
writes

And those hi-quality flat cables are great except that they only bend
in one dimension! I should probably have thought of that but who has a
range of audio/video boxes where the SCARTs are all exactly at the same
point relative to the sides of the boxes? Trying to get them to
connect "over to the left of the box above" is a real pain!

Had exactly that problem at Sainsbury's tonight with a shopping trolley
- some have the coin deposit box and chain on the left of the handle and
some have it on the right.

Its quite interesting to see how inefficiently shopping trolleys can be
linked together in sequences of left and right handed deposit boxes. ;-)
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:00:09 +0000, Tony wrote:


The DTG have done a study on scart cables in which they covered the
various types available on the market with screened/non-screen and
locking mechanisms. Unfortunately the DTG report does not specify any
standard design for the locking mechanism, and its retention test
specification is rather weak, as thicker cables tend to need high
retention force.

Many are provided with additional locking tabs which increase the
retention force, and I have noticed Sainsburys do locking and
non-locking low cost scarts. They are not discretely shielded but very
few setups will notice any difference.

My Scart setup is pretty tortuous, which is what makes it easy for one
to pop out, Its DVD player looped thru Freeview PVR which is looped
thru the Sky box & then finally to the telly.
The latest disgruntled 4 year old episode was due to the Wii not
working, that goes in a seperate scart & got knocked when I messed
with the other.

Thankfully all soon to be redundant as I've built a home theatre PC to
replace the lot, new flat telly comes on Saturday & it's one HDMI from
the PC & the Wii in composite phonos or via component (if it does it,
must check the manual).

CD

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In article ,
Graham. wrote:
The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.

I agree. You would never see such a thing on a piece of Pro kit.
The Americans seem to manage without them too.

The US prefers RCAs. To get the same basic functionality as a SCART would
require 9 of them. Without the auto switching, etc.

But then you'd not find RCAs on pro kit either. Or rather not decent stuff.

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CD wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:00:09 +0000, Tony wrote:


The DTG have done a study on scart cables in which they covered the
various types available on the market with screened/non-screen and
locking mechanisms. Unfortunately the DTG report does not specify any
standard design for the locking mechanism, and its retention test
specification is rather weak, as thicker cables tend to need high
retention force.

Many are provided with additional locking tabs which increase the
retention force, and I have noticed Sainsburys do locking and
non-locking low cost scarts. They are not discretely shielded but very
few setups will notice any difference.

My Scart setup is pretty tortuous, which is what makes it easy for one
to pop out, Its DVD player looped thru Freeview PVR which is looped
thru the Sky box & then finally to the telly.
The latest disgruntled 4 year old episode was due to the Wii not
working, that goes in a seperate scart & got knocked when I messed
with the other.

Thankfully all soon to be redundant as I've built a home theatre PC to
replace the lot, new flat telly comes on Saturday & it's one HDMI from
the PC & the Wii in composite phonos or via component (if it does it,
must check the manual).

CD

Good luck with Microsoft driven llving room gadgets (or Linux for that
matter). I'm sure it will work but I predict not as often as the
purpose made goods.

I have a similar scart setup but I've never any problems with leads,.
with locking tabs or not.

WII needs a special cable to get RGB, via scart, otherwise its composite
only.

--
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:37:25 +0000, Tony wrote:


Good luck with Microsoft driven llving room gadgets (or Linux for that
matter). I'm sure it will work but I predict not as often as the
purpose made goods.

It's in the testing stage at present & I hate to say it, but Windows 7
does it quite well, it's even had missus approval.
The purpose made goods I was looking at was the Humax Foxsat HDR,
thankfully I came on here to discuss it & was dissuaded.

CD

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Tony wrote:

Good luck with Microsoft driven llving room gadgets (or Linux for that
matter). I'm sure it will work but I predict not as often as the
purpose made goods.

Linux MCE works very well indeed but you do need to build it around specific
hardware for an "easy" setup.

It's also worth remembering much of the "purpose built" kit is based on a
linux kernel (usually something like Busybox) hence the reliability (or
not!)

Cheers,
Mike