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Paul D.Smith[_2_] November 17th 09 04:32 PM

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And don't get me started on the near impossibility to get the cable in the
right way around without visibility of the socket. Even feeling with my
fingers to find our the orientation of the socket doesn't help. (Of
course - remembering which side the cable came out of the plug before you
disconnected the cable may be helpful!)


And those hi-quality flat cables are great except that they only bend in one
dimension! I should probably have thought of that but who has a range of
audio/video boxes where the SCARTs are all exactly at the same point
relative to the sides of the boxes? Trying to get them to connect "over to
the left of the box above" is a real pain!

Won't be making that mistake again.

Paul DS.


Dave Plowman (News) November 17th 09 04:57 PM

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In article ,
Paul D.Smith wrote:
And don't get me started on the near impossibility to get the cable in
the right way around without visibility of the socket. Even feeling
with my fingers to find our the orientation of the socket doesn't
help. (Of course - remembering which side the cable came out of the
plug before you disconnected the cable may be helpful!)


And those hi-quality flat cables are great except that they only bend in
one dimension! I should probably have thought of that but who has a
range of audio/video boxes where the SCARTs are all exactly at the same
point relative to the sides of the boxes? Trying to get them to
connect "over to the left of the box above" is a real pain!


Won't be making that mistake again.


I bought some ribbon SCARTS from CPC - and they're pretty flexible. Or at
least flexible enough for something which is designed for a 'permanent'
installation. Come in a decent range of lengths too. Only had to shorten a
couple. ;-)

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Graham.[_2_] November 17th 09 05:19 PM

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wrote in message ...
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:37:38 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Adrian
wrote:
Use a Scart lead.

That's a ridiculous suggestion to make for a TV in a different room.


Depends on how far away the other room is. A good quality SCART lead
with separately screened co-ax cables should be able to manage at least
30 metres without any adverse effects.


The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.


I agree. You would never see such a thing on a piece of Pro kit.
The Americans seem to manage without them too.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



David November 17th 09 05:38 PM

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"Graham." wrote in message
...



The Americans seem to manage without them too.

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What do they use?
Thanks
David


Graham.[_2_] November 17th 09 09:09 PM

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"David" wrote in message ...


"Graham." wrote in message ...



The Americans seem to manage without them too.

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What do they use?


Separate RCA/Phono, or perhaps BNC for video.
Not sure about digital interconnects, I expect HDMI like us.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Roderick Stewart[_2_] November 17th 09 11:51 PM

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In article ,
wrote:
The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.


Yes, the plugs are truly awful, but if that's what your TV is fitted
with, then if you want something better than composite video quality,
that's what you have to use. I suppose they're intended for the sort of
domestic situation where they're plugged once and left forever.

Rod.
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Roderick Stewart[_2_] November 17th 09 11:51 PM

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In article , Graham. wrote:
The Americans seem to manage without them too.

--


What do they use?


Separate RCA/Phono, or perhaps BNC for video.


Phono isn't exactly a brilliant idea either, especially for audio.
Unless you remember to turn the volume down they're guaranteed to
provide a blast of mains hum as the screen connection breaks before the
signal.

Rod.
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David November 18th 09 12:16 AM

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"Graham." wrote in message
...


"David" wrote in message
...


"Graham." wrote in message
...



The Americans seem to manage without them too.

--


What do they use?


Separate RCA/Phono, or perhaps BNC for video.


So how they handle the other functions that the Scart does, like Widescreen
switching etc.
BNC is that composite video only?

Seems Europe is ahead on connections.

--
Regards,
David

FREESAT HD as it is now it is a joke.


Kennedy McEwen November 18th 09 01:50 AM

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In article , Paul D.Smith
writes

And those hi-quality flat cables are great except that they only bend
in one dimension! I should probably have thought of that but who has a
range of audio/video boxes where the SCARTs are all exactly at the same
point relative to the sides of the boxes? Trying to get them to
connect "over to the left of the box above" is a real pain!

Had exactly that problem at Sainsbury's tonight with a shopping trolley
- some have the coin deposit box and chain on the left of the handle and
some have it on the right.

Its quite interesting to see how inefficiently shopping trolleys can be
linked together in sequences of left and right handed deposit boxes. ;-)
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
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Tony November 18th 09 10:00 AM

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wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:37:38 -0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Adrian
wrote:
Use a Scart lead.
That's a ridiculous suggestion to make for a TV in a different room.

Depends on how far away the other room is. A good quality SCART lead
with separately screened co-ax cables should be able to manage at least
30 metres without any adverse effects.


The SCART truly is a dreadful thing, why didn't they incorporate a
locking mechanism? Many a time I've come home to find a disgruntled
missus & four year old because the telly has stopped working. A quick
inspection usually reveals that the box has been moved slightly making
the SCART half come out.


The DTG have done a study on scart cables in which they covered the
various types available on the market with screened/non-screen and
locking mechanisms. Unfortunately the DTG report does not specify any
standard design for the locking mechanism, and its retention test
specification is rather weak, as thicker cables tend to need high
retention force.

Many are provided with additional locking tabs which increase the
retention force, and I have noticed Sainsburys do locking and
non-locking low cost scarts. They are not discretely shielded but very
few setups will notice any difference.

--
Tony


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