Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

"jamie powell" wrote in message ...

"Graham." wrote in message ...
Can anyone tell me what time it is due to happen?
What should we expect, a period of blacks & syncs followed by carrier cut?

Like Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 closure last week, the Winter Hill signal just cut-off mid programme, with not a caption in sight, at
00:26.
There was a short period of low power beforehand.

A recording can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0PiP07Ye3w
(my capture card misbehaves at the end though).

The new BBC A digital signal came on air within 5 minutes.
The old Mux 1 signal continued to be broadcast alongside it until 00:48.



I sat through the horrid "BBC North West Tonight" programme yesterday evening, to see if DSO1 was discussed (it was).
Amongst other things, the presenters managed to confuse today's DSO1 retune with the switchover in the Isle of Man and The Lakes,
which have already happened.

Choice quotes:

On-Location Reporter: "...tomorrow they're going to pull out this red link, and BBC2 analogue won't exist any longer. But that
won't worry you, will it, because you will have already retuned. Please tell me you've done it by now!"
Presenter1: "Yeah, we have! We had the man over this morning."
Presenter2: "My TV did it for me actually."

...and later...

Presenter2: "If you have more than five channels, you don't need to do a thing".

...oh, and if you have a TV without a SCART socket...

Woman Guest from Switchover Help Scheme: "all you need is a Freeview box with an RSA lead".

An RSA lead? perhaps yet another name for the connecter that dare not speak
its name, viz. the TV aerial connector, which I believe has the modern name of
IEC-169-2, but I insist in calling them Belling-Lee plugs. I am not sure if
a pedant wouldn't correct that to Belling & Lee.
Let's not even mention the pass-through vs. UHF modulator trifle.

Thanks for putting the video on youtube, but what I wanted to see
was the nose when the carrier went off.

On this occasion, a camera pointing at a telly, preferably a mid-sixties
vintage dual-standard set would be appropriate.

That would be the direct analogue to this (pun very much intended)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG52HcgKaD4
Which no doubt you have seen before. Mind you, it still has a locked
raster at the end, and who's to say it's a genuine off air feed?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

mm wrote:

No Signal message for me on BBC 1 & 2
is anybody receiving BBC from Winter Hill ?

Have you run a rescan since 6am this morning ? You need to, to get the
main BBC mux back, because it's moved frequency (to where BBC 2 analogue
was until last night).


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

http://www.paras.org.uk/

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message ...
Graham. wrote:

Oh bugger! both my Vestel PVR80s won't even see a MUX on 62,
never mind decode it!
Didn't I read a post here about the Vestel boxes not coping with the carrier
offset and needing an OTH update? Currently 5.3(UK) and no sign of
a pending update.

Downloadable from he-

http://www.futaura.co.uk/vestel.html

Click on the '5.7', in the T810 Table

All you need then is an RS232 lead.

Thanks Mark, that worked a treat on both boxes.
Nice of Bill (not our Bill, the American one), to ship Vista without a
terminal application, and my XP laptop didn't ship with a COM port.

Anyway, I discovered the hypertrm.exe & dll files from XP work
in Vista without any installation.

How on earth is the average punter going to cope with that then?
Has there been an OTA update that I have missed, I doubt it
as they are on 24/7

--
Graham.

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Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

"Paul Martin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
jamie powell wrote:

"Paul Martin" wrote in message
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The U link was pulled at 00:26/23 according to the CEEFAX header line.

If they just pulled the U link, wouldn't this leave the analogue
transmission
still on air, in RBS mode?

Ah, that rather depends on which link was pulled, doesn't it?

Well, turning off a transmitter generally involves a switch, not a U link...

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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mm wrote:

No Signal message for me on BBC 1 & 2 is anybody receiving BBC from
Winter Hill ?

Have you run a rescan since 6am this morning ? You need to, to get the main
BBC mux back, because it's moved frequency (to where BBC 2 analogue was
until last night).

Oddly, pre-DSO Mux C has also moved (from UHF60), to the old pre-DSO Mux 1
frequency (UHF56).

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

Here in South Yorkshire we do not expect to receive Winter Hill, because the
Pennines are in the way. However, my house has a good view to the west, so I
have an XG21CD on a pole on the back yard. We used to use it for Granada in
the days when having more than three channels was rather exotic. The aerial
is actually pointing almost at Emley Moors as well as at Winter Hill, which
is unfortunate because the Emley signals from it are at about 30dBmV
(analogue ch51) whereas the Winter Hill analogues were always at about
-17dBmV. I used to use a single channel preamp made from an old TV tuner for
ch59.
Anyway, please excuse this long and tedeous preamble, but I am an old man
and I am much given to waffling. Today I hooked up a 9dB masthead amp to the
XG21. The amp was one of Mr Wade's excellent products, and it withstood the
onslaught of Emley signals perfectly. Not a trace of a problem there.
Remarkable.

This is what I received today:

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:36:57 -0000, Graham. wrote:

Amongst other things, the presenters managed to confuse today's
DSO1
retune with the switchover in the Isle of Man and The Lakes,
which
have already happened.

Which bit of "The Lakes"? The north, served from Calbeck, went last
year but the south is served from Winter Hill...

Woman Guest from Switchover Help Scheme: "all you need is a
Freeview
box with an RSA lead".

An RSA lead? perhaps yet another name for the connecter that dare not
speak its name, viz. the TV aerial connector, which I believe has the
modern name of IEC-169-2, but I insist in calling them Belling-Lee
plugs.

Not sure there are any DTTV set top boxes that have an RF out thus
would use a Belling-Lee or F connector. As for RSA lead haven't a
clue what one of those is.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

Graham. wrote:


How on earth is the average punter going to cope with that then?

Indeed !

Has there been an OTA update that I have missed, I doubt it
as they are on 24/7

AIUI it was carried in Nov 2008, but on Mux B, because the problem was
discovered after Selkirk's DSO, and affected Mux 1 (PSB 1) reception in
that area.


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

http://www.paras.org.uk/

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk...
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:36:57 -0000, Graham. wrote:

Amongst other things, the presenters managed to confuse today's
DSO1
retune with the switchover in the Isle of Man and The Lakes,
which
have already happened.

Which bit of "The Lakes"? The north, served from Calbeck, went last
year but the south is served from Winter Hill...

Woman Guest from Switchover Help Scheme: "all you need is a
Freeview
box with an RSA lead".

An RSA lead? perhaps yet another name for the connecter that dare not
speak its name, viz. the TV aerial connector, which I believe has the
modern name of IEC-169-2, but I insist in calling them Belling-Lee
plugs.

Not sure there are any DTTV set top boxes that have an RF out thus
would use a Belling-Lee or F connector. As for RSA lead haven't a
clue what one of those is.

Most have a male output, usually just pass-through, but a small
proportion do indeed have a modulator.
The ones with only an input tend to be very small form-factor, including
USB sticks and those built into an oversized SCART plug.

I've never seen a DTTV box with a F type, but I would applaud the first
manufacturer to do so

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Winter Hill BBC2 analogue QRT schedule.
 

"Bill" wrote in message
...
Here in South Yorkshire we do not expect to receive Winter Hill, because the
Pennines are in the way.

You'd be amazed at how good my reception of Emley Moor is (in a certain spot
of our kitchen at least), here on t'other side of the pennines.