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I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

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Philips Model 22PFL3403D/10

Gets all channels correctly in the end but it drives me nearly to suicide
every time I have to do a re-scan.

Firstly it's impossible to rescan digital without rescanning analog too.

So would have to scan analog and use infuriating primitive interface to
reorder the analog channels.

However here in Reading analog and digital signals from both Crystal Palace
and Hannington are strong enough to get detected no matter which way your
aerial points. Hence auto scan is unusable and you have to manually scan.
You can't just erase the digital channels so you have to manually enter the
analog channels again too. If fact the only way to erase everything is to
auto scan with the aerial disconnected. You also can't scan by channel
numbers (21 to 68) you have to know that, for instance, channel 46 is
674.25MHz for digital or 671MHz for analog.

You might say why bother with the analog channels. Well mainly because some
of the muxs drop out in certain weather conditions and when there are lots
of leaves on the trees.

One good this is that it does seem to be able to add the odd extra channel
that's introduced on a previously unused LCN without any user intervention.

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bill Wright wrote:

I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The
odd thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without
needing the standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill


My own experience - on the fringe of Sutton Coldfield coverage, Group B roof
aerial . . .

The only significant change *without* retuning was that Chan 5 no longer
worked.

On re-tuning, both sets found 75 channels - including the moved Chan 5, so
that's ok.

*However* I'm now getting *nothing* on Mux D. Previously it at least *found
* a few channels - Film 4, Yesterday, etc. - but they seldom actually
worked. Now, it doesn't even *find* them. I'm not really any worse off
because they were rarely watchable, anyway. I'll try to scan Mux D manually
to time to time in the hope of hitting a period of good reception - but
otherwise, I can wait until ANO. [As I've said on previous occasions, Mux D
(currently Chan 55) is outside the official range of my Group B aerial - but
I don't want to change it 'cos the frequencies will all be re-aligned after
ANO and it should then be ok].
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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far: 1.
Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem. 2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found
only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried again. Same result.
Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is, the receiver
comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button to be
pressed, which it didn't before.

My elderly neighbour asked me to do hers. She's got two married daughters
and grand kids etc who are there a lot - but hey, it's nice to be
considered 'technical'. ;-)
Her STB is a Sagem. On switching it on up came what was CH5 - now a black
screen with a message saying to press 'OK' to retune. Which I did and it
did. All mine - which I did before - required delving into the setup menu.
Although I didn't try the CH5 site so didn't see that message. Are all as
simple as this?

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Bill Wright wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill


My Panasonic TX-26LXD1 LCD panel now steadfastly refuses to 'see' Dave
(19), E4+1 (29) and Sky News (82) plus a couple of others that I can't
recall - I'm missing 6 channels in alll. Other Panasonic and Sony gear
in the house is fine. I've tried a shipping condition reset, different
aerial, scan without an aerial attached to try and clear the problem -
nada. Looks like I'll be calling Panasonic tomorrow. Sigh.


Clem

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I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd
thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the
standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

Both my Vestel 80GB PVRs have ITV2+1 (33) tagged as "ITV"
I'm on Winter Hill is that the same for everybody?
(can't be sure it wasn't like that before retuning)

--
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Clem Dye wrote:

My Panasonic TX-26LXD1 LCD panel now steadfastly refuses to 'see' Dave
(19), E4+1 (29) and Sky News (82) plus a couple of others that I can't
recall - I'm missing 6 channels in alll.

I retuned Mother-in-law's Sony Bravia last night at 17:00hrs. It seemed fine
at the time, but she phoned me at 20:30hrs last night (while I was retuning
someone else's TV ) to report that she was only getting a 1 second flash of
Dave when she selected it, and, quote, "the same for some other channels above
position 15".


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On Sep 30, 10:48*pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

Main tv LG 47LG6000 no problems at all, an LG M227WD in bedroom also
no probs. The main problem was a Humax 9300 PVR it appeared to find
all the channels but on the EPG they were in the wrong place. ITV3 for
instance was channel 801 itwas also in 10 but was blank. Did a factory
set and all problems cured, altrhough I now have to redo series links
and some preferences.

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Java Jive wrote:
Pace Twin ok, but as always, loses your personal channel lists, so you
have to rebuild them - damned tedious. I too have ITV2+1 as ITV
from Hannington.

Yep, same here (also Hannington), plus:-

A blank channel 'news' on Ch 89. That causes my Toppy to crash if I select it.

A blank channel that my Sony PVR labels as '????' on Ch 27 (all other
receivers label it as just a blank space.

C5's picture quality is a disgrace.

'Deck chairs' and 'Titanic' come to mind, but I suppose that's the result of
treating the UHF band as a commodity rather than a resource ?

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Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
Philips Model 22PFL3403D/10

Gets all channels correctly in the end but it drives me nearly to suicide
every time I have to do a re-scan.

Firstly it's impossible to rescan digital without rescanning analog too.

So would have to scan analog and use infuriating primitive interface to
reorder the analog channels.

However here in Reading analog and digital signals from both Crystal Palace
and Hannington are strong enough to get detected no matter which way your
aerial points. Hence auto scan is unusable and you have to manually scan.
You can't just erase the digital channels so you have to manually enter the
analog channels again too. If fact the only way to erase everything is to
auto scan with the aerial disconnected. You also can't scan by channel
numbers (21 to 68) you have to know that, for instance, channel 46 is
674.25MHz for digital or 671MHz for analog.

Try re-scanning with a -12dB attenuator in line?

G

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Wharfedale (TVOnics) PVR required the autotune to be done twice, the first
time it picked up a crappy signal for the BBC1 mux on a lower channel from
Craigkelly instead of Black Hill, second time round it got it right for some
reason.

Picking up the first channel it sees instead of the strongest must be a
common problem with some boxes.

On mine, if you type in the channels manually it adds them to the end (800)
as there is no way to clear the previous channels without doing an autotune.

Z


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd
thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the
standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill


Sony Bravia KDL40W4000 rescanned AOK and all channels present.

I appear to be getting less signal strength on ch5 and a few others too...

I'm in Edinburgh and pointed at Blackhill

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In article , Clem Dye
wrote:
My Panasonic TX-26LXD1 LCD panel now steadfastly refuses to 'see' Dave
(19), E4+1 (29) and Sky News (82) plus a couple of others that I can't
recall - I'm missing 6 channels in alll. Other Panasonic and Sony gear
in the house is fine. I've tried a shipping condition reset, different
aerial, scan without an aerial attached to try and clear the problem -
nada. Looks like I'll be calling Panasonic tomorrow. Sigh.

Get yourself a set of aerial lead attenuators and try rescanning with
various amounts in circuit. (With 3, 6 and 12dB you can have any value
from 3 to 21 in increments of 3). This might seem daft but it worked for
me. Two of my tuners managed just fine, but the Panasonic PVR picked up
everything except BBC4 despite several rescans, until I tried the
attenuators. It worked with 6dB, then I took the attenuator out of
circuit and it still picks up all the channels.

Rod.
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"Bigguy" wrote in message
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Brian Gregory [UK] wrote:
Philips Model 22PFL3403D/10

Gets all channels correctly in the end but it drives me nearly to suicide
every time I have to do a re-scan.

Firstly it's impossible to rescan digital without rescanning analog too.

So would have to scan analog and use infuriating primitive interface to
reorder the analog channels.

However here in Reading analog and digital signals from both Crystal
Palace and Hannington are strong enough to get detected no matter which
way your aerial points. Hence auto scan is unusable and you have to
manually scan. You can't just erase the digital channels so you have to
manually enter the analog channels again too. If fact the only way to
erase everything is to auto scan with the aerial disconnected. You also
can't scan by channel numbers (21 to 68) you have to know that, for
instance, channel 46 is 674.25MHz for digital or 671MHz for analog.

Try re-scanning with a -12dB attenuator in line?


Yes that's worth trying, I'll try and remember next time. However I suspect
some of the Crystal Palace muxs are as strong on the back of our Hannington
aerial as Hannington is on the front of it. They certainly will be after
switchover because Crystal Palace digital power is increasing 10 times while
Hannington is only increasing 2.25 times. We want to use Hannington if we
can because it has more local news.

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On Oct 1, 7:33*am, Mark Carver wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
Pace Twin ok, but as always, loses your personal channel lists, so you
have to rebuild them *- *damned tedious. *I too have ITV2+1 as ITV
from Hannington.

Yep, same here (also Hannington), plus:-

A blank channel 'news' on Ch 89. That causes my Toppy to crash if I select it.

A blank channel that my Sony PVR labels as '????' on Ch 27 (all other
receivers label it as just a blank space.

C5's picture quality is a disgrace.

'Deck chairs' and 'Titanic' come to mind, but I suppose that's the result of
treating the UHF band as a commodity rather than a resource ?

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All three in my house worked "fine". DHD4000 PVR, Panasonic 37LZD81
and a TVonics STB (can't recall the model number). All show a blank
channel on channel 27, and this morning Five was showing with no EPG
on the DHD4000 (suspect this is due to the nightly download of the EPG
from 4TV not being properly updated, so no stricly a Freeview issue).

Matt

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On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:33:06 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Java Jive wrote:
Pace Twin ok, but as always, loses your personal channel lists, so you
have to rebuild them - damned tedious. I too have ITV2+1 as ITV
from Hannington.

Yep, same here (also Hannington), plus:-

A blank channel 'news' on Ch 89. That causes my Toppy to crash if I select it.

A blank channel that my Sony PVR labels as '????' on Ch 27 (all other
receivers label it as just a blank space.



Panasonic summat or other, using Crystal Palace but can see Reigate
too.

Lke Mark and JJ I have ITV where ITV2+1 is. Ch27 has no label but the
DOG tells me it's ITV4.

Usual thing of 8nn series channels whee it picks up duplicates,
presumably from Reigate.

All in all not really that tricky.

--
Tim

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Old Netgem I player blind enabled version.
It worked, but some channels, notably 5 take a long time to actually
stabilise and give sound. Sometimes the box now does a restart for no
apparent reason.
Cannot find fiver, no loss there. five US seems to be prone to not work
unless selected a second time. I may well try another retune. I cannot see
how a simple reordering of channels could cause these oddities to happen,
unless ththey were there all along but on channels I never used of course,
but now they are more mainstream channels.

Could we now ask the broadcasters to retune their selection process for
things we might like to have on TV, rather than chuck out the rubbish I
heard last night while flitting around the available dross. Durasic Park
AGAIN? Lots of rubbish fly on the wall cop real event type rubbish, Bloody
sport, Umpteen rubbish news services, more adverts than I'd care to have in
an hour, all in 15 mins, crappy shows about marriage in the US and I think
the best/worst of all, age old repeats of old US sitcoms with inappropriate
fake laughter.

Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd
thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the
standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

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In message , Tim Hall
writes


Ch27 has no label but the
DOG tells me it's ITV4.

There's nearly always a dog around when you need one.
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
. com...

Could we now ask the broadcasters to retune their selection process for
things we might like to have on TV, rather than chuck out the rubbish I
heard last night while flitting around the available dross. Durasic Park
AGAIN? Lots of rubbish fly on the wall cop real event type rubbish,
Bloody sport, Umpteen rubbish news services,

Speak for yourself, I don't know how I lived before 'Russia Today'. ;-)

Z

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On Oct 1, 10:08*am, "Zimmy" wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message

. com...

Could we now ask the broadcasters to retune their selection process for
things we might like to have on TV, rather than chuck out the rubbish I
heard last night while flitting around the available dross. Durasic Park
AGAIN? Lots of rubbish fly *on the wall cop real event type rubbish,
Bloody sport, Umpteen rubbish news services,

Speak for yourself, I don't know how I lived before 'Russia Today'. ;-)

Z

Vestel T825 ( Digihome) pointing at Rowridge seems to have coped OK,
haven't checked every single channel yet. Biggest ballache was
deleting all the shopping channels and suchlike crap from the channel
list after rescan.

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On Oct 1, 10:16*am, airsmoothed wrote:
On Oct 1, 10:08*am, "Zimmy" wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message

.com...

Could we now ask the broadcasters to retune their selection process for
things we might like to have on TV, rather than chuck out the rubbish I
heard last night while flitting around the available dross. Durasic Park
AGAIN? Lots of rubbish fly *on the wall cop real event type rubbish,
Bloody sport, Umpteen rubbish news services,

Speak for yourself, I don't know how I lived before 'Russia Today'. ;-)

Z

Vestel T825 ( Digihome) pointing at Rowridge seems to have coped OK,
haven't checked every single channel yet. Biggest ballache was
deleting all the shopping channels and suchlike crap from the channel
list after rescan.

whoops, forgot, daughter's Bush DFTA14 hasn't been retuned but still
seems to be picking up most channels OK, CH5 now blank unsurprisingly.

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Mark Carver wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
Pace Twin ok, but as always, loses your personal channel lists, so
you have to rebuild them - damned tedious. I too have ITV2+1 as
ITV from Hannington.

Yep, same here (also Hannington), plus:-

A blank channel 'news' on Ch 89. That causes my Toppy to crash if I
select it.
A blank channel that my Sony PVR labels as '????' on Ch 27 (all other
receivers label it as just a blank space.

C5's picture quality is a disgrace.

'Deck chairs' and 'Titanic' come to mind, but I suppose that's the
result of treating the UHF band as a commodity rather than a resource?


Retuning my 2 year old Digifusion 80gb PVR was a piece of cake, 'Add
Channels' or 'Reinstall all Channels' which was completed without fuss
within several minutes. On the other hand my Humax PVR ended up missing out
channels, with others in the wrong order, it eventually had to be set back
to the factory default position, along with a pin number having to be
entered twice in the process (I'm glad that I originally set it at 0000!)
and a rather lengthy rescan. then came the the 37in Phillips LCD TV which
suffice to say can only be described as a near traumatic experience! (see
Brian Gregory's post) and when it did eventually reach 100 per cent (after
an interminable scanning process) the menu appeared to lock up, however I
decided to be patient and after a wait - of what seemed to be several
minutes - it eventually asked me if I wanted press OK to store.. all this
was carried out with the aid of a C/D filter, otherwise all of the Mendip
channels would have been mixed with an equal number from the Wenvoe
transmitter!. Love him or hate him, one has to agree that Murdoch had it
spot on when he insisted that all of his Sky receivers had to conform to a
standard menu system.

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Graham. wrote:

Both my Vestel 80GB PVRs have ITV2+1 (33) tagged as "ITV"
I'm on Winter Hill is that the same for everybody?
(can't be sure it wasn't like that before retuning)

I'm on Crystal Palace and I had that on my Topfield before I deleted
it. I delete a load of channels I never watch so I can get the EPG on
two pages on the TAP I use for EPG.

I had minor problems with the EPG TAP not matching the LCNs but that
was cleared up by refreshing the EPG cache.
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On Sep 30, 10:48*pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

Two Samsung TVs
TV 1 - 42" plasma, retuned without a hitch via external Mast mounted
aerial to Crystal Palace. Says 100 channels available
Tv 2 - 19" LCD, retuned without a hitch via internal cheapo argos
jobby thing. Lost ITV channels in favour of BBC lost Ch5 but all the
Dave type channels are rock solid. Time to connect it up to the mast I
think.

Haven't done the Humax 9150 PVR yet as I'm deocrating and it's back in
it's box for now. Might try it tonight.

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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:35:20 -0700 (PDT)
Mike wrote:
Haven't done the Humax 9150 PVR yet as I'm deocrating and it's back in
it's box for now. Might try it tonight.

It took 2 attempts to get channel 5 and a couple of others back with my
9200 so expect some fun and games. And I live in london so it was nothing
to do with signal strength.

B2003

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd
thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the
standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill


Various Humax PVRs struggling to put channels in correct place. Manual tune
sorts them out. Various Echostar T101 boxes have been killed by this update!
Echostar will get them working again for postage costs only! Toshiba TV at
neighbours house has put channels in order it found them which is annoying
for them!

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On Oct 1, 11:40*am, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:35:20 -0700 (PDT)

Mike wrote:
Haven't done the Humax 9150 PVR yet as I'm deocrating and it's back in
it's box for now. Might try it tonight.

It took 2 attempts to get channel 5 and a couple of others back with my
9200 so expect some fun and games. And I live in london so it was nothing
to do with signal strength.

B2003

Mm I'll look out for that. Thanks

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Panasonic TX 32 LX D85 Freeview telly. MIL's, three button pushes, all
channels available:- ITV4 etc. EH11

WharfedaleDV823B Freeview box. Son's, four button pushes, all channels
available:- ITV4 etc. This did have quite a wait on a new telly guide
being downloaded but this was automatic. EH14 (Balerno)

Both retunes were done as initial setup and on auto tune . Telly with
box internal took 30 secs to do +3 mins autotune. Digibox took 15 secs
+ 3 minutes autotune. + Unknown time (I went to toilet made cup of tea
watched main telly etc then came back and it was done) to download TV guide.

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"Ivan" wrote in message
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[snip] Love him or hate him, one has to agree that Murdoch had it spot on
when he insisted that all of his Sky receivers had to conform to a
standard menu system.

I'm not sure it was 'his' idea. OnDigital also set the spec for all their
suppliers of boxes and that seemed to work very well.

But I agree with the general point that it is better for consumers if
manufacturers make equipment to a standard spec. I don't understand why
Ofcom couldn't set the spec for receivers especially as they set the
standards for broadcasters...of course it would probably be called
'interfering with the operation of the free market'. Socialisation!

The open market has given us the diversity of junk that is being comented on
in this thread.

Roger R

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In message , writes
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:35:20 -0700 (PDT)
Mike wrote:
Haven't done the Humax 9150 PVR yet as I'm deocrating and it's back in
it's box for now. Might try it tonight.

It took 2 attempts to get channel 5 and a couple of others back with my
9200 so expect some fun and games. And I live in london so it was nothing
to do with signal strength.

B2003

After thinking all was well with my 9200T, I realised that ITV 3 &4 had
the wrong numbers, and I ended up having to delete all channels and
then re-tune.

It's fine now.
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Roger R wrote:
"Ivan" wrote in message
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[snip] Love him or hate him, one has to agree that Murdoch had it
spot on when he insisted that all of his Sky receivers had to
conform to a standard menu system.

I'm not sure it was 'his' idea. OnDigital also set the spec for all
their suppliers of boxes and that seemed to work very well.

But I agree with the general point that it is better for consumers if
manufacturers make equipment to a standard spec. I don't understand
why Ofcom couldn't set the spec for receivers especially as they set
the standards for broadcasters...of course it would probably be called
'interfering with the operation of the free market'. Socialisation!

The open market has given us the diversity of junk that is being
comented on in this thread.



With seemingly most of the software designed by geeks, who haven't the
faintest idea that many of the users will range from the non-technical,
elderly, infirmed, not very bright, and I suspect the overwhelming majority,
who do not wish to get themselves involved in a 30 minute session of the
Krypton factor just to retune a bloody television or set-top box!

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Rowridge area.

As far as I could see only Ch5 and possibly some ITV were missing, corrected
by rescan.

Pace 735 - no problem.

I *assume* the Nokia 95850T will be exactly the same as built to common
spec.

Menu Getting started Store channels.
Does rescan, and stored new list.

Necessary to re-select 'Favourites'.

Roger R

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Pioneer DBR-TF100 (Sutton Coldfield) All channels present and correct. No
degradation of reception on any channel that I can tell.

Box was a hand-me-down too, didn't pay a single penny for it! :op

(kim)

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Graham. wrote:


Both my Vestel 80GB PVRs have ITV2+1 (33) tagged as "ITV"
I'm on Winter Hill is that the same for everybody?
(can't be sure it wasn't like that before retuning)

Same with my Philips sets, pointing at Sutton Coldfiled - so I guess it's
pretty general.

Dunno whether it's always done it - never noticed it before!
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Ivan wrote:

Love him or hate him, one has to
agree that Murdoch had it spot on when he insisted that all of his Sky
receivers had to conform to a standard menu system.

I have one of his boxes, it's 11 years old today. Still working
perfectly, and has had channels come, go, and move seamlessly over the
years without any fuss, or intervention from me.

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Ivan wrote:
........... On the other hand my Humax PVR ended up missing
out channels, with others in the wrong order, it eventually had to be
set back to the factory default position, along with a pin number having
to be entered twice in the process (I'm glad that I originally set it at
0000!) and a rather lengthy rescan............


From elsewhere it seems with the Hummy 9200T you only have to delete
the channels that moved in the channel list. Or just delete the lot.

I too used the reset to default function, which has the effect of
literally resetting every-setting-in-sight. 4:3 instead of 16:9, ad
skip forward time, ALL timer settings..... :-(

And in my email from Humax, informing me of the need to retune, they
referred me to the TVretune website to find out how to do it on their
products! Usual Humax attitude!

Regards,
Richard

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alrafter wrote:
......The main problem was a Humax 9300 PVR it appeared to find
all the channels but on the EPG they were in the wrong place. ITV3 for
instance was channel 801 it was also in 10 but was blank. Did a factory
set and all problems cured, although I now have to redo series links
and some preferences.

You got additional channels! On Hummys it looks like you need to clear
the channel list before doing an automatic scan. There's no rescan as
such, it's more like a find new channels!
All you need to do is switch to standby and back to re-order EPG list.

Richard

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On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:31:58 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:

On the other hand my Humax PVR ended up missing out
channels, with others in the wrong order, it eventually had to be set back
to the factory default position, along with a pin number having to be
entered twice in the process (I'm glad that I originally set it at 0000!)
and a rather lengthy rescan.

I discovered that an automatic channel scan on a Humax PVR9200T does not
clear and replace the existing channel list. I eventually used the Edit
Channel Lists dialogue to delete all entries. After that an Automatic
Search was fine.

The only problem I had with Pace DTVA, Goodmans, Bush and Wharfedale
STBs was that I retuned some of them too early and had to redo them
later. I did them successively during a period of about 30 minutes. If
I'd started 15 minutes later there would have been no problem.

I was temporarily flummoxed by the menus on a Samsung LCD with
integrated DTT tuner. How was I supposed to know that the icon for
searching for terrestrial channels was a nice picture of a satellite
dish?

All the channels seem to be present on all boxes. I live just a few km
from the Divis transmitter although there is a hill in the way.

Like other people I see a Channel 89 named "News". There is nothing
showing. Old proverb "No news is good news".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bill Wright wrote:

I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The
odd thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without
needing the standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill


My own experience - on the fringe of Sutton Coldfield coverage, Group B
roof aerial . . .

The only significant change *without* retuning was that Chan 5 no longer
worked.

10, 24 and 27 should also have been blank (or rather, showing a message
saying that they had moved)

tim

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"Graham." wrote in message
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I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I
tried again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd
thing is, the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the
standby button to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

Both my Vestel 80GB PVRs have ITV2+1 (33) tagged as "ITV"
I'm on Winter Hill is that the same for everybody?
(can't be sure it wasn't like that before retuning)

I have this too, from Rowridge

tim