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Ageing Pioneer On-Digital box. Refused to Add Channels sticking at 39
channels found. Was willing to Store Channels but hid the ITVs and
other things in strange places. The channel numbers available for
3-4-5-6 have disappeared, so I can't renumber my channels so ITV's on
3 and 4's on, erm, 4.

Took about half an hour to do the rescan and play hunt-the-channel and
renumber to something vaguely sensible.

On the upside I can now get Magic radio again.

Owain

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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:50:15 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

1. Ability to set tuning limits to a given range of channels

That is what the manual tunning option does (well limited
to one UHF channel) surely?

Or do not all digital tuners have this ability?

No, that's no good. I don't to bugger about feeding in six channels one at a
time. I want to say "Right, you machine you, have a scout round between
channel 39 and channel 53 and see what you can find, and be quick about it."

Oh and manual tuning? What manual tuning?

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Topfield 5800PVR, needed to be updated to a more recent firmware to cope
with the split NIT issue (was allocating odd channel numbers before).
Once that was done, and some duplicated channels from out of region
muxes deleted, all was fine again. Updating MyStuff to V6 using the
updater also fixed any EPG issues.

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Why on earth isn't there a proper spec for DTT boxes? Or at least, why
don't manufacturers build in some sensible tuning options? For instance:
1. Ability to set tuning limits to a given range of channels
2. Ability to set the desired transmitter ID.
3. Ability to not scan certain designated channels.
4. Ability to ignore muxes below a certain settable quality threshold.


Come on , you know what the general public are like - what percentage of
users would understand and want those features?
1% at most? Where's the incentive for the manufacturers to introduce them?

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On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:49:08 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:50:15 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

1. Ability to set tuning limits to a given range of channels

That is what the manual tunning option does (well limited
to one UHF channel) surely?

Or do not all digital tuners have this ability?

No, they most certainly do not. The one I am cursing at the moment is
a Panasonic TV which has "DVB Auto Setup" and *absolutely nothing* else.
Of course it has a full set of analogue tuning options.
What is one to do when trying to eliminate Belmont but keep Waltham,
where the channels in use are interleaved?
And when you're directing operations from 150 miles away...

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In article , Fred Bloggs
writes

Winter Hill.

Daewoo SV900, picked up 8 muxes and 103 channels. Not noticed any
problems (need to check CH5 and the appearance of Quest). Noticeable
deterioration in picture quality.

Inverto IDL7000: picked up 8 muxes but only 102 channels. Have not
checked to see what the 'missing' channel is yet (or if anything's been
stuck onto 800)

Both on same aerial via an amplifier. Why would the Inverto miss a
channel?

Correction: the Daewoo is a model DRT-10 recorder/freeview box, amd
picks up 103 channels, three of which are on 800, 801 and 804 even after
a factory reset and re-tune. Not a problem.

The Inverto picks up all the same channels in the same places as the
Daewoo but puts nothing on the 800s.

But I also have a Hyundai Q400 television with built-in Freeview (which
I don't use cos I use the Inverto.) That's a complete mess - I've
started a separate thread for that.

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In article , Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

That is what the manual tunning option does (well limited
to one UHF channel) surely?

Or do not all digital tuners have this ability?

No, they most certainly do not. The one I am cursing at the moment is
a Panasonic TV which has "DVB Auto Setup" and *absolutely nothing* else.

Same with my Panasonic PVR. Autoscanning with various attenuators in the
aerial feed worked for me.

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On 30 Sep, 22:48, "Bill Wright" wrote:
I've been on holiday today, so haven't had any messages from customers
(well, only two), but here's how my own retune has gone so far:
1. Newish Sony IDTV. Just did it with no problem.
2. Humax F2 Fox T: Found only 24 channels, lost everything else, so I tried
again. Same result. Did a factory reset, this worked OK. The odd thing is,
the receiver comes on now when powered up without needing the standby button
to be pressed, which it didn't before.

Tomorrow I have to retune a lot of stuff, so I'll report back.

Bill

I did about 25 retunes over the last 3 days and all my problems were
Humax, including my own. A reset to default and then manual retune
cleared all the problems. Most of my customers were elderly and only
too happy to pay £20 for a callout. I tried to explain over the phone
how to do it but no one would listen!

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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in
message ...
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Why on earth isn't there a proper spec for DTT boxes? Or at least, why
don't manufacturers build in some sensible tuning options? For instance:
1. Ability to set tuning limits to a given range of channels
2. Ability to set the desired transmitter ID.
3. Ability to not scan certain designated channels.
4. Ability to ignore muxes below a certain settable quality threshold.


Come on , you know what the general public are like - what percentage of
users would understand and want those features?
1% at most? Where's the incentive for the manufacturers to introduce them?

A lot of boxes are sold and installed by independents. And not all the
public is thick. I'd put your 1% at 10%. Mind you, I'm in Yorkshire, where
the general public is famed for it's intelligence.

Bill

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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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In article , Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

That is what the manual tunning option does (well limited
to one UHF channel) surely?

Or do not all digital tuners have this ability?

No, they most certainly do not. The one I am cursing at the moment is
a Panasonic TV which has "DVB Auto Setup" and *absolutely nothing* else.

Same with my Panasonic PVR. Autoscanning with various attenuators in the
aerial feed worked for me.

Where appropriate I now give the customer an attenuator and explain how to
use it. The value is determined by the strength of the weanted channels.
This solves most problems.

Bill