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My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

Dave

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Dave wrote:
My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

What's the model of TV, and when did it last perform a rescan ?


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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:05:41 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Dave wrote:
My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

What's the model of TV, and when did it last perform a rescan ?


It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.

Dave

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:05:41 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Dave wrote:
My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

What's the model of TV, and when did it last perform a rescan ?


It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.

Dave



critcher said............................
did a rescan today because of breakup on BBC 1 Wales, now there is no ITV1
Wales or S4C and still have break up on BBC1.
Panasonic 32in viera, living in Torfaen area, (South Wales)
Freeview + pvr using same aerial input is unaffected .

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"Dave" wrote in message
...

My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

Even if the tuner doesn't work, all you have to buy to make it work is an
STB and a SCART cable

tim

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:05:41 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Dave wrote:
My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

What's the model of TV, and when did it last perform a rescan ?


It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

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"Dave" wrote in message
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It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.


Judy

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"Judy Booth" wrote in message
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"Peter Crosland" wrote in
o.uk:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when
digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but
not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.


Please could you post the URL for this list?

Peter Crosland

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On 20 Sep 2009 15:24:05 GMT, Judy Booth wrote:

"Peter Crosland" wrote in
news:[email protected] co.uk:

"Dave" wrote in message
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It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.




You could be right. I've just had a look again at the Freeview
website, but there seemed to be conflicting info. One page said
equipment may not work after the 30th, but another page adds that if
you are in an area that's already had the switchover equipment may not
work.


Dave

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"Dave" wrote in message
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My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!

Read it again!

From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.

Read it again!

Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected,

Well she isn't going to be watching anything then.

but if she does re-tune, it buggers her TV.

Read it again!

As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.


She doesn't need to buy a new TV.

Dave

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:39:16 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote:

"Judy Booth" wrote in message
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"Peter Crosland" wrote in
o.uk:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when
digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but
not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.


Please could you post the URL for this list?




http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/R...topped-working

The link is about a third of the way down the page.



Dave

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Dave wrote:


You could be right. I've just had a look again at the Freeview
website, but there seemed to be conflicting info. One page said
equipment may not work after the 30th, but another page adds that if
you are in an area that's already had the switchover equipment may not
work.

On Sept 30th the COM muxes at Redruth and Huntshaw Cross switch from low power
2k to high power 8k, despite the fact that the high power PSB services at 8k
have been running for some weeks at those two sites. It could be a reference
to that, although viewers in those areas would already be without all the PSB
services if they have 2k only kit.

There used to be a list of 2k only equipment he-

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/as...d-7_May_09.pdf

But it's now a broken link.

Quite frankly the information from Freeview and Digital UK is a total shambles
of dumbed down, and/or not up to date, and/or poorly written, and/or downright
misleading information.

I wonder who really does know what's going on, and why this can't be presented
in two forms.

Technical information, for those of us who are technical.

Layman's terms for the rest of the public.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On 20 Sep 2009 15:24:05 GMT, Judy Booth wrote:

"Peter Crosland" wrote in
news:[email protected] .co.uk:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when
digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but
not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.




You could be right. I've just had a look again at the Freeview
website, but there seemed to be conflicting info. One page said
equipment may not work after the 30th, but another page adds that if
you are in an area that's already had the switchover equipment may not
work.


Thanks for that David. This was the page I found a link on.

http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/R...September-2009


Peter Crosland

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:57:26 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Dave wrote:


You could be right. I've just had a look again at the Freeview
website, but there seemed to be conflicting info. One page said
equipment may not work after the 30th, but another page adds that if
you are in an area that's already had the switchover equipment may not
work.

On Sept 30th the COM muxes at Redruth and Huntshaw Cross switch from low power
2k to high power 8k, despite the fact that the high power PSB services at 8k
have been running for some weeks at those two sites. It could be a reference
to that, although viewers in those areas would already be without all the PSB
services if they have 2k only kit.

There used to be a list of 2k only equipment he-

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/as...d-7_May_09.pdf

But it's now a broken link.

It has been re-revised and is at:
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/as...15_Sept_09.pdf

or http://tinyurl.com/nontdf

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I'd say, buy a cheap set top box and then keep it in hiding and see what
happens. I'd doubt if the retune coming up will be a problem, but digital
switchovver may. Its then yoou whip out your box and connect it up and hey
presto..

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"Dave" wrote in message
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My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

Dave

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What signal quality is the pvr reporting on the offending signal on the tv?
Brian

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:05:41 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Dave wrote:
My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

What's the model of TV, and when did it last perform a rescan ?


It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.

Dave



critcher said............................
did a rescan today because of breakup on BBC 1 Wales, now there is no ITV1
Wales or S4C and still have break up on BBC1.
Panasonic 32in viera, living in Torfaen area, (South Wales)
Freeview + pvr using same aerial input is unaffected .

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That is a pain of a list but I think it only refers to the switchover, even
though the format is a total disaster for the blind who do use tvs you know!

Brian

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:39:16 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote:

"Judy Booth" wrote in message
.4...
"Peter Crosland" wrote in
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"Dave" wrote in message
...

It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when
digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but
not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.


Please could you post the URL for this list?




http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/R...topped-working

The link is about a third of the way down the page.



Dave

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Yeah its written by someone who is talking out of their arse, that's why.

Brian

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On 20 Sep 2009 15:24:05 GMT, Judy Booth wrote:

"Peter Crosland" wrote in
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"Dave" wrote in message
...

It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when
digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but
not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.




You could be right. I've just had a look again at the Freeview
website, but there seemed to be conflicting info. One page said
equipment may not work after the 30th, but another page adds that if
you are in an area that's already had the switchover equipment may not
work.


Dave

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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What signal quality is the pvr reporting on the offending signal on the
tv?
Brian

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:05:41 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Dave wrote:
My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september. Their advice there seems to be get a new TV!
From what I've read about this, the main changes relate to Ch5 and
some minor changes to other channels.
Since she only watches BBC1/2 and ITV1, I don't see the point of
re-tuning if these channels are not affected, but if she does re-tune,
it buggers her TV. As she says, why should she have to buy a new TV
when the one she's got works perfectly now.

What's the model of TV, and when did it last perform a rescan ?


It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.

Dave



critcher said............................
did a rescan today because of breakup on BBC 1 Wales, now there is no
ITV1 Wales or S4C and still have break up on BBC1.
Panasonic 32in viera, living in Torfaen area, (South Wales)
Freeview + pvr using same aerial input is unaffected .


tv is showing 5/10, pvr showing 7/10.I don't think it's the pass through
causing problems, but I can easily check that.I was wondering if it's the
TV tuner,Ive tried updating the software, but its on the latest now.
Very rare do I use the TV on its own tuner, except for analogue ceefax, I
usually use sky or the pvr via the scarts. It's about 4 years old now, so
whether its not as sensitive as newer models I don't know..

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:39:16 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote:

"Judy Booth" wrote in message
.4...
"Peter Crosland" wrote in
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"Dave" wrote in message
...

It's a Panasonic TX-28DT2. Can't remember when a rescan was last done,
it's manual, not automatic, but will do one next Saturday when I next
see her to show how it's done.


Unless my eyes deceive me that model is not on the list.

Peter Crosland

It looks like it is on the list of TVs which will stop working when
digital
switchover arrives in an area - Coverage issues/Why has my Freeview
equipment stopped working?.
If so then it will probably be OK after the 30th September changes, but
not
when switchover finally arrives in the area.


Please could you post the URL for this list?




http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/R...topped-working

The link is about a third of the way down the page.



Dave


Looks like my 3 OnDigital Philips DTR6370 boxes will die on that day - I use
them every day - mainly for radio now.

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On 20/09/09 12:37, Dave wrote:

My mother, in her 80's has a Panasonic digital TV listed on the
Freeview website which may not work after retuning on the 30th
september.

There's an update for various Panny IDTVs mon-weds next week, I think it
is related to allowing the sets to scan and store more than 95 services.