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Andy Burns[_7_] September 11th 09 11:17 AM

Old Sky box and/or Freeview?
 

Chanel 5 on 105 is scrambled, so without a card you get an
on-screen message, but, for reasons that I cannot fathom an
unencrypted version is transmitted outside the EPG which
again can be tuned as an additional channel (10.773 H 22 5/6 "FIVE")


Presumably the "clear" version is the Freesat version of Five, perhaps
it doesn't transmit certain programmes when there are rights issues?


Peter Duncanson September 11th 09 12:29 PM

Old Sky box and/or Freeview?
 
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:17:59 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:


Chanel 5 on 105 is scrambled, so without a card you get an
on-screen message, but, for reasons that I cannot fathom an
unencrypted version is transmitted outside the EPG which
again can be tuned as an additional channel (10.773 H 22 5/6 "FIVE")


Presumably the "clear" version is the Freesat version of Five, perhaps
it doesn't transmit certain programmes when there are rights issues?


That is indeed the version that appears on Freesat. I haven't noticed
any programmes being absent.

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Peter Duncanson
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Brian Mc[_3_] September 11th 09 12:58 PM

Old Sky box and/or Freeview?
 
In uk.tech.digital-tv Graham. wrote:
: Chanel 5 on 105 is scrambled, so without a card you get an
: on-screen message, but, for reasons that I cannot fathom an
: unencrypted version is transmitted outside the EPG which

Not any longer - or rather not in the south of England C5 "advertising
region" at least!

From last week C5 on 105 has been switched to a FTA version and,
obviously worked WITHOUT the smartcard!


Adrian[_3_] September 11th 09 01:07 PM

Old Sky box and/or Freeview?
 
Brian Mc wrote:
In uk.tech.digital-tv Graham. wrote:
Chanel 5 on 105 is scrambled, so without a card you get an
on-screen message, but, for reasons that I cannot fathom an
unencrypted version is transmitted outside the EPG which


Not any longer - or rather not in the south of England C5 "advertising
region" at least!

From last week C5 on 105 has been switched to a FTA version and,
obviously worked WITHOUT the smartcard!


Interesting, I wonder if they're doing it one region at a time, here in the
north a card is still required.
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Gary September 11th 09 01:50 PM

Old Sky box and/or Freeview?
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Brian Mc wrote:
In uk.tech.digital-tv Graham. wrote:
Chanel 5 on 105 is scrambled, so without a card you get an
on-screen message, but, for reasons that I cannot fathom an
unencrypted version is transmitted outside the EPG which


Not any longer - or rather not in the south of England C5 "advertising
region" at least!

From last week C5 on 105 has been switched to a FTA version and,
obviously worked WITHOUT the smartcard!


Interesting, I wonder if they're doing it one region at a time, here in
the north a card is still required.
--
^..^ This is Kitty. Copy and paste Kitty into your signature to help

her wipe out Bunny's world domination.


They are messing about with Freeview for the sake of Channel five. There
could be a connection.

Gary


Graham.[_2_] September 11th 09 04:20 PM

Old Sky box and/or Freeview?
 

"Brian Mc" wrote in message
...
In uk.tech.digital-tv Graham. wrote:
: Chanel 5 on 105 is scrambled, so without a card you get an
: on-screen message, but, for reasons that I cannot fathom an
: unencrypted version is transmitted outside the EPG which

Not any longer - or rather not in the south of England C5 "advertising
region" at least!

From last week C5 on 105 has been switched to a FTA version and,
obviously worked WITHOUT the smartcard!


So I wonder why they don't make it the 105 default "sans carte"?


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Mark Carver September 11th 09 07:50 PM

Old Sky box and/or Freeview?
 
Adrian wrote:
Brian Mc wrote:
In uk.tech.digital-tv Graham. wrote:
Chanel 5 on 105 is scrambled, so without a card you get an
on-screen message, but, for reasons that I cannot fathom an
unencrypted version is transmitted outside the EPG which

Not any longer - or rather not in the south of England C5 "advertising
region" at least!

From last week C5 on 105 has been switched to a FTA version and,
obviously worked WITHOUT the smartcard!


Interesting, I wonder if they're doing it one region at a time, here in the
north a card is still required.


Interesting. I assume the 'South of England' aka Region 2 stream that is being
mapped to Sky 105 is the 10773 FTA version, as used for Freesat ? The
remaining streams (Regions 1,3,4) that are encrypted are still at 12422, and
therefore must remain encrypted as they're on wide beam.

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/skyuk.html

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