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Peter Twydell August 19th 09 09:29 PM

15 inch LCD
 
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in mains
timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm.

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect
it to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which
is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only
experience is with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on into
proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration file
required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Adrian[_3_] August 19th 09 11:27 PM

15 inch LCD
 

"Peter Twydell" wrote in message
...
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in mains
timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm.

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect it
to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which is
useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only experience is
with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on into
proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the message:
An error occurred during the processing of a configuration file required
to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!




Adrian[_3_] August 19th 09 11:29 PM

15 inch LCD
 
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm.

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect
it to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which
is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only
experience is with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on
into proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration
file required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)


If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in stanby mode,
if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the mains all the time.
--
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.



Andy Champ[_2_] August 20th 09 12:12 AM

15 inch LCD
 
Peter Twydell wrote:

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't.


Surely this is a breach of the SOGA - misdescription - and you're
entitled to a full refund?

Andy
IANAL

Peter Twydell August 20th 09 12:20 AM

15 inch LCD
 
In message , Adrian
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm.

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect
it to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which
is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only
experience is with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on
into proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration
file required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)


If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in stanby mode,
if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the mains all the time.


That is what I intended to do, but the TV hasn't got a timer, despite
the spec on the website.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Peter Twydell August 20th 09 12:22 AM

15 inch LCD
 
In message , Andy Champ
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the
Comet site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't.


Surely this is a breach of the SOGA - misdescription - and you're
entitled to a full refund?

My thoughts exactly. I shall be returning it to Comet as soon as I can.


Andy
IANAL


--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Ian August 20th 09 01:20 AM

15 inch LCD
 
In message , Peter Twydell
writes
In message , Adrian
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm.

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect
it to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which
is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only
experience is with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on
into proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration
file required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)


If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in stanby mode,
if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the mains all the time.


That is what I intended to do, but the TV hasn't got a timer, despite
the spec on the website.


The timers on the sets that I've seen are for sending your chosen
channel down the scart to your VCR/PVR for scheduled recording.

They do this in standby.

You wouldn't want it to come on if you were recording something when you
were asleep.

So in fact it does what it's meant to, but not what you want it to.
--
Ian

widgitt August 20th 09 01:28 AM

15 inch LCD
 
If you can still find a Humax, they have a full on and off timer built
in.
They have ceased making them but there may be some around. The ones
with the almost-seperate speaker under the screen have very much
better sound. The smallest is 19" but its a good bedroom size.


Kurt Ayrez August 20th 09 07:26 AM

15 inch LCD
 

"widgitt" wrote in message
...
If you can still find a Humax, they have a full on and off timer built
in.
They have ceased making them but there may be some around. The ones
with the almost-seperate speaker under the screen have very much
better sound. The smallest is 19" but its a good bedroom size.


yes, no-one will complain about an extra 4" in the bedroom...



Brian Gaff August 20th 09 09:12 AM

15 inch LCD
 
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian

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Email:
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________


"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...
Peter Twydell wrote:

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't.


Surely this is a breach of the SOGA - misdescription - and you're entitled
to a full refund?

Andy
IANAL




Peter Twydell August 20th 09 10:02 AM

15 inch LCD
 
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian


The website shows that it has an "On/ / off timer". Hovering over the
i-in-a-square shows "Enables the television to be preset to switch on
and off". I can't see much scope for misunderstanding there.
See: http://tinyurl.com/nham56
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Peter Twydell August 20th 09 10:03 AM

15 inch LCD
 
In message , Ian
writes
In message , Peter Twydell
writes
In message , Adrian
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm.

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect
it to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which
is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only
experience is with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on
into proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration
file required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)

If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in stanby mode,
if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the mains all the time.


That is what I intended to do, but the TV hasn't got a timer, despite
the spec on the website.


The timers on the sets that I've seen are for sending your chosen
channel down the scart to your VCR/PVR for scheduled recording.

They do this in standby.

You wouldn't want it to come on if you were recording something when
you were asleep.

So in fact it does what it's meant to, but not what you want it to.


The spec states quite clearly that it's about a timer for switching the
set on and off. See http://tinyurl.com/nham56
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

UKMonitor August 20th 09 10:24 AM

15 inch LCD
 
On Aug 20, 9:03*am, Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Ian
writes





In message , Peter Twydell
writes
In message , Adrian
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.


The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm..


I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect
it to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which
is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only
experience is with our Philips Ambilight.


Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on
into proper ON mode?


BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration
file required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)


If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in stanby mode,
if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the mains all the time.


That is what I intended to do, but the TV hasn't got a timer, despite
the spec on the website.


The timers on the sets that I've seen are for sending your chosen
channel down the scart to your VCR/PVR for scheduled recording.


They do this in standby.


You wouldn't want it to come on if you were recording something when
you were asleep.


So in fact it does what it's meant to, but not what you want it to.


The spec states quite clearly that it's about a timer for switching the
set on and off. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/nham56
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Take a look at this 16" Alba £99 from Argos, OK for bedroom and it has
a timer. You have to put some black tape over the very bright blue LED
standby light though. It flashes brightly during the night if they do
a download. Thought it was a police raid the first time it hapened !

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/5294811.htm

UKM


Adrian[_3_] August 20th 09 10:49 AM

15 inch LCD
 
Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Brian
Gaff writes
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian


The website shows that it has an "On/ / off timer". Hovering over the
i-in-a-square shows "Enables the television to be preset to switch on
and off". I can't see much scope for misunderstanding there.
See: http://tinyurl.com/nham56


You said in your original post that you used a mains timer, you can't expect
an onboard timer to work without power. BTW this sets is not 16:9 it is
16:10, therefore in my opinion is not fit for purpose.
--
^..^ This is Kitty. Copy and paste Kitty into your signature to help

her wipe out Bunny's world domination.



Adrian[_3_] August 20th 09 10:55 AM

15 inch LCD
 
Ian wrote:
In message , Peter Twydell
writes
In message , Adrian
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our
alarm. I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the
Comet site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If
I connect it to the existing mains timer it switches on into
standby mode, which is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of
LCD sets? My only experience is with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on
into proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration
file required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)

If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in
stanby mode, if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the
mains all the time.


That is what I intended to do, but the TV hasn't got a timer, despite
the spec on the website.


The timers on the sets that I've seen are for sending your chosen
channel down the scart to your VCR/PVR for scheduled recording.

They do this in standby.

You wouldn't want it to come on if you were recording something when
you were asleep.

So in fact it does what it's meant to, but not what you want it to.


What Peter wants used to exist, I used a JVC 21F1 with a timer to wake me up
in the morning. Obviously that would be far to big and old for his
requirements.
--
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.



Adrian[_3_] August 20th 09 10:57 AM

15 inch LCD
 
UKMonitor wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:03 am, Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Ian
writes





In message , Peter Twydell
writes
In message ,
Adrian writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.


The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our
alarm.


I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the
Comet site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't.
If I connect it to the existing mains timer it switches on into
standby mode, which is useless for my purpose. Is this typical
of LCD sets? My only experience is with our Philips Ambilight.


Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch
on into proper ON mode?


BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a
configuration file required to service this request. ( Using XP
Home SP3, IE6)


If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in
stanby mode, if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to
the mains all the time.


That is what I intended to do, but the TV hasn't got a timer,
despite the spec on the website.


The timers on the sets that I've seen are for sending your chosen
channel down the scart to your VCR/PVR for scheduled recording.


They do this in standby.


You wouldn't want it to come on if you were recording something when
you were asleep.


So in fact it does what it's meant to, but not what you want it to.


The spec states quite clearly that it's about a timer for switching
the set on and off. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/nham56
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Take a look at this 16" Alba £99 from Argos, OK for bedroom and it has
a timer. You have to put some black tape over the very bright blue LED
standby light though. It flashes brightly during the night if they do
a download. Thought it was a police raid the first time it hapened !

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/5294811.htm

UKM


That one only has a sleep timer, not a switch on timer. Apart from that it's
a nice little set, my aunt has one in her kitchen. Proper 16:9 too.
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.



smac August 20th 09 12:56 PM

15 inch LCD
 
Cello TP1936WDVB this one has awake setting

Peter Twydell August 20th 09 04:09 PM

15 inch LCD
 
In message , Adrian
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Brian
Gaff writes
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian


The website shows that it has an "On/ / off timer". Hovering over the
i-in-a-square shows "Enables the television to be preset to switch on
and off". I can't see much scope for misunderstanding there.
See: http://tinyurl.com/nham56


You said in your original post that you used a mains timer, you can't expect
an onboard timer to work without power. BTW this sets is not 16:9 it is
16:10, therefore in my opinion is not fit for purpose.


If the set had a built-in timer I wouldn't need the plugin. OTOH I would
use the existing plugin if the set had no timer of its own and came on
when power was applied, instead of going into standby.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Brian Gaff August 20th 09 05:54 PM

15 inch LCD
 
Sorry, I was referring to the clot who wrote the advert really.

Brian

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Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name may be lost.
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"Peter Twydell" wrote in message
...
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian


The website shows that it has an "On/ / off timer". Hovering over the
i-in-a-square shows "Enables the television to be preset to switch on and
off". I can't see much scope for misunderstanding there.
See:
http://tinyurl.com/nham56
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!




Woody[_3_] August 20th 09 09:46 PM

15 inch LCD
 
To the OP: you can get third party remotes with a built in clock
that lets you use it to program recording. It can also switch on
a TV.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com



widgitt August 21st 09 12:07 AM

15 inch LCD
 
According to this there are still stocks of these and I know they do
have switch on and off timers.

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product...=10080&cat=lcd

widgitt August 21st 09 12:13 AM

15 inch LCD
 
According to this there are stocks left and I know they definitely
have switch on and off timers.

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product...=10080&cat=lcd

Note that there is an integrated 80Gb pvr with this model. It only has
a single tuner but I have plenty of experience of these and they do a
great job for a bedroom set and the sound is very good for a small
set.

Ian August 21st 09 01:38 AM

15 inch LCD
 
In message , Peter Twydell
writes
In message , Ian
writes
In message , Peter Twydell
writes
In message , Adrian
writes
Peter Twydell wrote:
Looking for a 15 inch LCD TV for the bedroom.

The current arrangement is an analogue set connected to a plug-in
mains timer. This switches on at 06:45 and thereby acts as our alarm.

I bought a Goodmans LD1546WD set on the basis of what was on the Comet
site, i.e. that it has an on/off timer. Well, it doesn't. If I connect
it to the existing mains timer it switches on into standby mode, which
is useless for my purpose. Is this typical of LCD sets? My only
experience is with our Philips Ambilight.

Does anyone know of a set that would do what I want, i.e. switch on
into proper ON mode?



BTW, I can't access any of the Goodmans product pages, I get the
message: An error occurred during the processing of a configuration
file required to service this request. ( Using XP Home SP3, IE6)

If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in stanby mode,
if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the mains all the time.

That is what I intended to do, but the TV hasn't got a timer, despite
the spec on the website.


The timers on the sets that I've seen are for sending your chosen
channel down the scart to your VCR/PVR for scheduled recording.

They do this in standby.

You wouldn't want it to come on if you were recording something when
you were asleep.

So in fact it does what it's meant to, but not what you want it to.


The spec states quite clearly that it's about a timer for switching the
set on and off. See http://tinyurl.com/nham56


I agree, that's misleading by not being specific.

I went to the Goodmans support site, and as often seems to happen, your
TV is not in their database.

Of course a Google search brings up plenty of sellers, and the usual
batch of lying *******s who suck your search criteria into the link to
their website.
--
Ian

David August 21st 09 09:57 AM

15 inch LCD
 


"Adrian" wrote in message
om...


If you use a mains timer most current TVs will come back on in stanby
mode, if the TV has a timer just leave it plugged in to the mains all the
time.
--


Common sense, or buy an alarm clock.

--
Regards,
David

FREESAT HD as it is now it is a joke.


John[_34_] August 21st 09 07:13 PM

15 inch LCD
 

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om...
Sorry, I was referring to the clot who wrote the advert really.

Brian

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Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name may be lost.
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"Peter Twydell" wrote in message
...
In message , Brian Gaff
writes
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian


The website shows that it has an "On/ / off timer". Hovering over the
i-in-a-square shows "Enables the television to be preset to switch on and
off". I can't see much scope for misunderstanding there.
See:
http://tinyurl.com/nham56
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!




Sometimes Comet get things wrong.



R. Mark Clayton August 21st 09 08:26 PM

15 inch LCD
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Brian
Gaff writes
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian


The website shows that it has an "On/ / off timer". Hovering over the
i-in-a-square shows "Enables the television to be preset to switch on
and off". I can't see much scope for misunderstanding there.
See: http://tinyurl.com/nham56


You said in your original post that you used a mains timer, you can't
expect an onboard timer to work without power. BTW this sets is not 16:9
it is 16:10, therefore in my opinion is not fit for purpose.


Rubbish - it is presumably 1920 x 1200 or some proportion thereof and also
usable as a monitor.

--
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.




Andy Champ[_2_] August 21st 09 09:16 PM

15 inch LCD
 
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

Rubbish - it is presumably 1920 x 1200 or some proportion thereof and also
usable as a monitor.


My monitor is 1920x1200. I find it vaguely annoying that there are
black stripes top and bottom when watching TV, but I put up with it
because it isn't intended as a TV.

16:10 for a specialised TV is just silly. As is 768 lines...

Andy

Adrian[_3_] August 21st 09 10:54 PM

15 inch LCD
 
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Peter Twydell wrote:
In message , Brian
Gaff writes
I think its a misunderstanding of what the timer was for.

Brian


The website shows that it has an "On/ / off timer". Hovering over
the i-in-a-square shows "Enables the television to be preset to
switch on and off". I can't see much scope for misunderstanding
there. See: http://tinyurl.com/nham56


You said in your original post that you used a mains timer, you can't
expect an onboard timer to work without power. BTW this sets is not
16:9 it is 16:10, therefore in my opinion is not fit for purpose.


Rubbish - it is presumably 1920 x 1200 or some proportion thereof and
also usable as a monitor.


You didn't even bother to check the resolution before making your ridiculous
statement, it is in fact 1280x800, fine for a small monitor but _not_ for a
television which is what it is sold as.
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