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On 21 Aug., 19:00, Tony wrote:
The standards are very complex with loads of options, its impossible to
test for all options.

Nevertheless, there's no excuses for not *implementing* whole chunks of a
published standard just because the *current broadcasts* aren't using it.
None whatsoever. Testing is a different matter.

It is an excuse and a well used one. Yes one software company I know
used a 'current transmission' methodology for implementation in the
past, but pretty much everyone is limited to current transmission test
methodology, in order to confirm their interpretation of the standards.

I agree its bad either way but the problem is the over complex
standards, not the (decent) companies implementing it.

No it is not - The current standard is complex but
not very complex.

The NIT problem is the result of not answering
a simple question any programmer should ask every time
he/she uses a table: "What will i do when my table is full ?"
And the answer is well described in the standards.

This is nothing but bad coding standards and lack of
normal quality control.

You may even say - It doesn't matter if it works
but it MUST follow the standards.
(it will also work then)

Then you have broadcasters changing what parts of
the standard they are using and then you have them changing things mfrs
thought where standards (Eg D-Book)

Bull. The original standard had both the 8k mode
and the NIT table extension included and NOT under
the word 'optional'.
Ofcom* had even written early on and informed industry
that they wanted to change away from the 2k mode.

new ones (EG DVB-T2) when we havn't even fully changed to the
intermediate ones yet.

You cannot avoid change - it is a result of living
in the modern world - but by accepting it, you may
be able to mitigate its less pleasant sides.

The split NIT thing did put the cat amongst the pigeons, and yes
legally the mfrs are responsible, however I still 100% blame the
broadcasters for the standard complexity, also the body (can't remember
who) that decided to change to split NITs and knowingly kill loads of
receivers.

The NIT was broken as more channels and transmitters
were added to the network - needing more space in the
NIT/SI tables. They (DMOL I think) had to do something. It may
be that they could have postponed it for some weeks or months,
but surely not forever.

Lars :)

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Mike Henry wrote:
In , "Roger R" wrote:

What you describe is less than consumers would expect of Sony's reputation.
They can only get away with such indifference for only so long before their
brand becomes badly damaged.

Their brand is toast in this household, doubly so after their behaviour in
the period following the "root kit" scandal.

Well, yesterday my 22 month old Sony Bravia LCD suddenly lost one horizontal
row of pixels, so now about an inch down from the top of the screen is a nice
black line. The only advantage is that it 'crosses out' the DOGs !

Permission to say 'cock' ?

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Mark Carver wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:
In , "Roger R"
wrote:

What you describe is less than consumers would expect of Sony's
reputation. They can only get away with such indifference for only
so long before their brand becomes badly damaged.

Their brand is toast in this household, doubly so after their
behaviour in the period following the "root kit" scandal.

Well, yesterday my 22 month old Sony Bravia LCD suddenly lost one
horizontal row of pixels, so now about an inch down from the top of
the screen is a nice black line. The only advantage is that it
'crosses out' the DOGs !
Permission to say 'cock' ?

So complain to the retailer, if they refuse to do anything go to Trading
Standards. A fault appearing in just 22 months is totally unacceptable.
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Adrian wrote:

So complain to the retailer, if they refuse to do anything go to Trading
Standards. A fault appearing in just 22 months is totally unacceptable.

I didn't purchase it from a retailer, but all I can say is I'm actively
pursuing the matter via internal e-mails ;-)