New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...
 

Followed Bill & Co's advice (thanks again), and purchased everything I need
for my new setup:

- Blake SR18E aerial
- PF100 coax cable
- 9" chimney bracket + lashing kit
- Clips, wall sockets, plugs, etc

Only issue I still have is with the aerial assembly. It arrived in parts,
and the assembly instructions (see
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=357lhu0&s=3), stage 4, explains how to
attach the mounting cradle to the boom(s). My understanding is that the
cradle should both provide support for the clamp holding the two sections of
the boom together (see diagram in stage 4), and also be positioned such that
the aerial is balanced to reduce pressure on the fixings. Unfortunately it
is impossible to attach the cradle as suggested in the diagram, as the
clamps attaching the cradle to the boom(s) do not fit in the position
described in the instructions (clash with the elements). The closet cradle
position I've managed to achieve to the one suggested is this one:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v3q32c&s=3. This does not seem to provide
much support for the clamp holding the boom sections together, and is also
far from the balancing point for the aerial.

A coupe of questions therefo

- Would attaching the cradle in this way affects the reception?
- Would it provide enough support for the clamp? The aerial seem very well
built, and very stable.
- Does it make much of a difference that the aerial will not be perfectly
balanced around the cradle once fitted?

TIA.

New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...
 

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:59:03 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:

Followed Bill & Co's advice (thanks again), and purchased everything I need
for my new setup:

- Blake SR18E aerial
- PF100 coax cable
- 9" chimney bracket + lashing kit
- Clips, wall sockets, plugs, etc

Only issue I still have is with the aerial assembly. It arrived in parts,
and the assembly instructions (see
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=357lhu0&s=3), stage 4, explains how to
attach the mounting cradle to the boom(s). My understanding is that the
cradle should both provide support for the clamp holding the two sections of
the boom together (see diagram in stage 4), and also be positioned such that
the aerial is balanced to reduce pressure on the fixings. Unfortunately it
is impossible to attach the cradle as suggested in the diagram, as the
clamps attaching the cradle to the boom(s) do not fit in the position
described in the instructions (clash with the elements). The closet cradle
position I've managed to achieve to the one suggested is this one:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v3q32c&s=3. This does not seem to provide
much support for the clamp holding the boom sections together, and is also
far from the balancing point for the aerial.

A coupe of questions therefo

- Would attaching the cradle in this way affects the reception?
- Would it provide enough support for the clamp? The aerial seem very well
built, and very stable.
- Does it make much of a difference that the aerial will not be perfectly
balanced around the cradle once fitted?

The clamp looks a bit on the short side compared with how I remember
the Antiference ones. Anyway - you want to move it along a bit to the
right of the picture to equalise it either side of the clamp joining
the two parts of the aerial boom. If it is mounted on a short mast it
probably doesn't matter too greatly where you clamp the mast to your
"cradle" but I used to put the clamp at the balancing point (where
dangling it on one finger keeps it horizontal) and nothing has fallen
over yet. At right angles to the elements there is the least effect on
reception but I have once seen an aerial which some clever 6ugger had
assembled with the long support in the same plane as the elements
where it would definitely not help reception.

New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...
 

"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:59:03 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:

Followed Bill & Co's advice (thanks again), and purchased everything I
need
for my new setup:

- Blake SR18E aerial
- PF100 coax cable
- 9" chimney bracket + lashing kit
- Clips, wall sockets, plugs, etc

Only issue I still have is with the aerial assembly. It arrived in parts,
and the assembly instructions (see
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=357lhu0&s=3), stage 4, explains how to
attach the mounting cradle to the boom(s). My understanding is that the
cradle should both provide support for the clamp holding the two sections
of
the boom together (see diagram in stage 4), and also be positioned such
that
the aerial is balanced to reduce pressure on the fixings. Unfortunately it
is impossible to attach the cradle as suggested in the diagram, as the
clamps attaching the cradle to the boom(s) do not fit in the position
described in the instructions (clash with the elements). The closet cradle
position I've managed to achieve to the one suggested is this one:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v3q32c&s=3. This does not seem to provide
much support for the clamp holding the boom sections together, and is also
far from the balancing point for the aerial.

A coupe of questions therefo

- Would attaching the cradle in this way affects the reception?
- Would it provide enough support for the clamp? The aerial seem very well
built, and very stable.
- Does it make much of a difference that the aerial will not be perfectly
balanced around the cradle once fitted?

The clamp looks a bit on the short side compared with how I remember
the Antiference ones. Anyway - you want to move it along a bit to the
right of the picture to equalise it either side of the clamp joining
the two parts of the aerial boom. If it is mounted on a short mast it
probably doesn't matter too greatly where you clamp the mast to your
"cradle" but I used to put the clamp at the balancing point (where
dangling it on one finger keeps it horizontal) and nothing has fallen
over yet. At right angles to the elements there is the least effect on
reception but I have once seen an aerial which some clever 6ugger had
assembled with the long support in the same plane as the elements
where it would definitely not help reception.

Sorry, perhaps I didn't explain myself properly...

The problem I have is that to achieve better support for the clamp I will
need to move the cradle AWAY from the reflectors by, say, one element
compared with my earlier photo. However, the balancing point is much closer
to the reflector - hopefully this photo clarifies matters:
http://tinypic.com/r/2j5uzt/3

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"brightside S9" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:25:30 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:


"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:59:03 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:

Followed Bill & Co's advice (thanks again), and purchased everything I
need
for my new setup:

- Blake SR18E aerial
- PF100 coax cable
- 9" chimney bracket + lashing kit
- Clips, wall sockets, plugs, etc

Only issue I still have is with the aerial assembly. It arrived in
parts,
and the assembly instructions (see
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=357lhu0&s=3), stage 4, explains how to
attach the mounting cradle to the boom(s). My understanding is that the
cradle should both provide support for the clamp holding the two
sections
of
the boom together (see diagram in stage 4), and also be positioned such
that
the aerial is balanced to reduce pressure on the fixings. Unfortunately
it
is impossible to attach the cradle as suggested in the diagram, as the
clamps attaching the cradle to the boom(s) do not fit in the position
described in the instructions (clash with the elements). The closet
cradle
position I've managed to achieve to the one suggested is this one:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v3q32c&s=3. This does not seem to
provide
much support for the clamp holding the boom sections together, and is
also
far from the balancing point for the aerial.

A coupe of questions therefo

- Would attaching the cradle in this way affects the reception?
- Would it provide enough support for the clamp? The aerial seem very
well
built, and very stable.
- Does it make much of a difference that the aerial will not be
perfectly
balanced around the cradle once fitted?

The clamp looks a bit on the short side compared with how I remember
the Antiference ones. Anyway - you want to move it along a bit to the
right of the picture to equalise it either side of the clamp joining
the two parts of the aerial boom. If it is mounted on a short mast it
probably doesn't matter too greatly where you clamp the mast to your
"cradle" but I used to put the clamp at the balancing point (where
dangling it on one finger keeps it horizontal) and nothing has fallen
over yet. At right angles to the elements there is the least effect on
reception but I have once seen an aerial which some clever 6ugger had
assembled with the long support in the same plane as the elements
where it would definitely not help reception.

Sorry, perhaps I didn't explain myself properly...

The problem I have is that to achieve better support for the clamp I will
need to move the cradle AWAY from the reflectors by, say, one element
compared with my earlier photo. However, the balancing point is much
closer
to the reflector - hopefully this photo clarifies matters:
http://tinypic.com/r/2j5uzt/3


Unless my eyes deceive your aeriel doesn't look like
http://www.blake-uk.com/largeimage/SR18WB
though this picture is of SR18W, not a SR18E.
But it does show the clamp and cradle clearly.

Well, it is probably the angle my photo was taken from... My aerial look
almost exactly the same as the one in your link - only difference I can see
it that on the reflectors all the elements on my aerial are of similar
length, whilst on the WB one in your link every second one looks shorter.

I assume that this is what makes the difference between a wide band and a
"normal" one? Or have they sent me the wrong aerial by mistake (they also
sent me a broken chimney bracket which I am now waiting for a
replacement...).

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"JoeJoe" wrote in message
o.uk...

"brightside S9" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:25:30 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:


"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:59:03 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:

Followed Bill & Co's advice (thanks again), and purchased everything I
need
for my new setup:

- Blake SR18E aerial
- PF100 coax cable
- 9" chimney bracket + lashing kit
- Clips, wall sockets, plugs, etc

Only issue I still have is with the aerial assembly. It arrived in
parts,
and the assembly instructions (see
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=357lhu0&s=3), stage 4, explains how to
attach the mounting cradle to the boom(s). My understanding is that
the
cradle should both provide support for the clamp holding the two
sections
of
the boom together (see diagram in stage 4), and also be positioned such
that
the aerial is balanced to reduce pressure on the fixings. Unfortunately
it
is impossible to attach the cradle as suggested in the diagram, as the
clamps attaching the cradle to the boom(s) do not fit in the position
described in the instructions (clash with the elements). The closet
cradle
position I've managed to achieve to the one suggested is this one:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v3q32c&s=3. This does not seem to
provide
much support for the clamp holding the boom sections together, and is
also
far from the balancing point for the aerial.

A coupe of questions therefo

- Would attaching the cradle in this way affects the reception?
- Would it provide enough support for the clamp? The aerial seem very
well
built, and very stable.
- Does it make much of a difference that the aerial will not be
perfectly
balanced around the cradle once fitted?

The clamp looks a bit on the short side compared with how I remember
the Antiference ones. Anyway - you want to move it along a bit to the
right of the picture to equalise it either side of the clamp joining
the two parts of the aerial boom. If it is mounted on a short mast it
probably doesn't matter too greatly where you clamp the mast to your
"cradle" but I used to put the clamp at the balancing point (where
dangling it on one finger keeps it horizontal) and nothing has fallen
over yet. At right angles to the elements there is the least effect on
reception but I have once seen an aerial which some clever 6ugger had
assembled with the long support in the same plane as the elements
where it would definitely not help reception.

Sorry, perhaps I didn't explain myself properly...

The problem I have is that to achieve better support for the clamp I will
need to move the cradle AWAY from the reflectors by, say, one element
compared with my earlier photo. However, the balancing point is much
closer
to the reflector - hopefully this photo clarifies matters:
http://tinypic.com/r/2j5uzt/3


Unless my eyes deceive your aeriel doesn't look like
http://www.blake-uk.com/largeimage/SR18WB
though this picture is of SR18W, not a SR18E.
But it does show the clamp and cradle clearly.

Well, it is probably the angle my photo was taken from... My aerial look
almost exactly the same as the one in your link - only difference I can
see it that on the reflectors all the elements on my aerial are of similar
length, whilst on the WB one in your link every second one looks shorter.

I assume that this is what makes the difference between a wide band and a
"normal" one? Or have they sent me the wrong aerial by mistake (they also
sent me a broken chimney bracket which I am now waiting for a
replacement...).
Also, just noticed, that the WB has 15 elements on the boom, whilst mine has
16 (although I may be wrong, as the photo is a little unclear).

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"brightside S9" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:04:36 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:


"JoeJoe" wrote in message
news:[email protected] .co.uk...

"brightside S9" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:25:30 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:


"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
om...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:59:03 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:

Followed Bill & Co's advice (thanks again), and purchased everything
I
need
for my new setup:

- Blake SR18E aerial
- PF100 coax cable
- 9" chimney bracket + lashing kit
- Clips, wall sockets, plugs, etc

Only issue I still have is with the aerial assembly. It arrived in
parts,
and the assembly instructions (see
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=357lhu0&s=3), stage 4, explains how
to
attach the mounting cradle to the boom(s). My understanding is that
the
cradle should both provide support for the clamp holding the two
sections
of
the boom together (see diagram in stage 4), and also be positioned
such
that
the aerial is balanced to reduce pressure on the fixings.
Unfortunately
it
is impossible to attach the cradle as suggested in the diagram, as
the
clamps attaching the cradle to the boom(s) do not fit in the position
described in the instructions (clash with the elements). The closet
cradle
position I've managed to achieve to the one suggested is this one:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2v3q32c&s=3. This does not seem to
provide
much support for the clamp holding the boom sections together, and is
also
far from the balancing point for the aerial.

A coupe of questions therefo

- Would attaching the cradle in this way affects the reception?
- Would it provide enough support for the clamp? The aerial seem very
well
built, and very stable.
- Does it make much of a difference that the aerial will not be
perfectly
balanced around the cradle once fitted?

The clamp looks a bit on the short side compared with how I remember
the Antiference ones. Anyway - you want to move it along a bit to the
right of the picture to equalise it either side of the clamp joining
the two parts of the aerial boom. If it is mounted on a short mast it
probably doesn't matter too greatly where you clamp the mast to your
"cradle" but I used to put the clamp at the balancing point (where
dangling it on one finger keeps it horizontal) and nothing has fallen
over yet. At right angles to the elements there is the least effect
on
reception but I have once seen an aerial which some clever 6ugger had
assembled with the long support in the same plane as the elements
where it would definitely not help reception.

Sorry, perhaps I didn't explain myself properly...

The problem I have is that to achieve better support for the clamp I
will
need to move the cradle AWAY from the reflectors by, say, one element
compared with my earlier photo. However, the balancing point is much
closer
to the reflector - hopefully this photo clarifies matters:
http://tinypic.com/r/2j5uzt/3


Unless my eyes deceive your aeriel doesn't look like
http://www.blake-uk.com/largeimage/SR18WB
though this picture is of SR18W, not a SR18E.
But it does show the clamp and cradle clearly.

Well, it is probably the angle my photo was taken from... My aerial look
almost exactly the same as the one in your link - only difference I can
see it that on the reflectors all the elements on my aerial are of
similar
length, whilst on the WB one in your link every second one looks
shorter.

I assume that this is what makes the difference between a wide band and
a
"normal" one? Or have they sent me the wrong aerial by mistake (they
also
sent me a broken chimney bracket which I am now waiting for a
replacement...).
Also, just noticed, that the WB has 15 elements on the boom, whilst mine
has
16 (although I may be wrong, as the photo is a little unclear).


I just noticed that your assembly instructions are for an 18WB, I
don't suppose that matters. Also I can't see the folded dipole in
your picture, and looking at your picture there seems to be seven
directors in front of the clamp, but the Blake picture has eight.

Was the aeriel in an unopened box when you purchased it?

No, it was not. They simply put everything - aerial parts, poll clamps,
chimney fixing kit, etc into a large box, and shipped it. No assembly
manuals for either chimney fixing kit or aerial... That's why I used pdf
manual from their website.

I tried to phone them once I realised the fixing bracket was broken at 16:00
yesterday, but there was no one there... I may have to try and speak to
someone on Monday morning to try and make sense of it.

New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...
 

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:18:19 +0100, Conor wrote:

In article , JoeJoe
says...

I tried to phone them once I realised the fixing bracket was broken at 16:00
yesterday, but there was no one there... I may have to try and speak to
someone on Monday morning to try and make sense of it.

If you can't even bolt a simple TV aerial together, you're going to be
stuffed for the rest of it. Maybe you should phone your new mate Bill
to come and fit it. After all, it was Bill who recommended that lovely
aerial that's currently making you look dumber than a chimpanzee.

Why do you have to be so rude?

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

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In article , JoeJoe
writes

"brightside S9" wrote in message

Unless my eyes deceive your aeriel doesn't look like
http://www.blake-uk.com/largeimage/SR18WB
though this picture is of SR18W, not a SR18E.
But it does show the clamp and cradle clearly.

Well, it is probably the angle my photo was taken from... My aerial look
almost exactly the same as the one in your link - only difference I can see
it that on the reflectors all the elements on my aerial are of similar
length, whilst on the WB one in your link every second one looks shorter.

I assume that this is what makes the difference between a wide band and a
"normal" one? Or have they sent me the wrong aerial by mistake (they also
sent me a broken chimney bracket which I am now waiting for a
replacement...).

To check the type, Group E should have a brown end cap at the reflector
end, wideband a black cap.

Although it's a different type, I have a Blake Group A aerial here which
has the correct red cap so it appears that they do mark their grouped
aerials.

For info:
A 21-37 red
B 35-53 yellow
CD 48-68 green
E 35-68 brown
K 21-48 grey
W 21-68 black
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

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"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , JoeJoe
writes

"brightside S9" wrote in message

Unless my eyes deceive your aeriel doesn't look like
http://www.blake-uk.com/largeimage/SR18WB
though this picture is of SR18W, not a SR18E.
But it does show the clamp and cradle clearly.

Well, it is probably the angle my photo was taken from... My aerial look
almost exactly the same as the one in your link - only difference I can
see
it that on the reflectors all the elements on my aerial are of similar
length, whilst on the WB one in your link every second one looks shorter.

I assume that this is what makes the difference between a wide band and a
"normal" one? Or have they sent me the wrong aerial by mistake (they also
sent me a broken chimney bracket which I am now waiting for a
replacement...).

To check the type, Group E should have a brown end cap at the reflector
end, wideband a black cap.

Although it's a different type, I have a Blake Group A aerial here which
has the correct red cap so it appears that they do mark their grouped
aerials.

For info:
A 21-37 red
B 35-53 yellow
CD 48-68 green
E 35-68 brown
K 21-48 grey
W 21-68 black
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

The end cap of the boom (on the side far away from the reflectors) is brown,
which suggest that it is ok. The end caps on the reflectors are both black.

Does that mean that I was sent a mix-and-match section - i.e. E-type boom,
and WB reflectors?

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"JoeJoe" wrote in message
o.uk...

Does that mean that I was sent a mix-and-match section - i.e. E-type boom,
and WB reflectors?

Could you provide
a picture of the aerial viewed from above, showing the element lengths and
spacings, with a foot ruler in the picture
The length of the reflectors
the length of the folded dipole ignoring the extra length caused by the
curved end -- the breadth in other words
the length of the director nearest the dipole
the length of the director farthest from the dipole
the distance from the centre of the dipole to the centre of the farthest
director?

Measurements do not need to be fanatically accurate.

Assuming the aerial is a Gp E, the cradle probably won't fit between the
elements properly. It's a common problem. Just shave a bit off on side of
one or both cradle clips, so it will fit. The cradle must of course span the
boom join.

Bill

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"JoeJoe" wrote in message
o.uk...

Does that mean that I was sent a mix-and-match section - i.e. E-type
boom, and WB reflectors?

Could you provide
a picture of the aerial viewed from above, showing the element lengths and
spacings, with a foot ruler in the picture
The length of the reflectors
the length of the folded dipole ignoring the extra length caused by the
curved end -- the breadth in other words
the length of the director nearest the dipole
the length of the director farthest from the dipole
the distance from the centre of the dipole to the centre of the farthest
director?

Measurements do not need to be fanatically accurate.

See photos of aerial with tape measure here (opens to exactly 1 foot - see
red marking on tape):
http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3
http://tinypic.com/r/jptnhi/3

I also took some more accurate measurements - see here (not in perspective
to simplify matters):
http://tinypic.com/r/5l0y9c/3

Assuming the aerial is a Gp E, the cradle probably won't fit between the
elements properly. It's a common problem. Just shave a bit off on side of
one or both cradle clips, so it will fit. The cradle must of course span
the boom join.

That's not a problem - I can do that. BTW, do you mean that the cradle needs
to be fitted as described in the instructions, or would the way I fitted it
be ok? Following the instructions will make it even more off balance, as
they way I fitted it meant that it was closer to the reflectors (but not in
equal distance on either side of the bracket). Doed the poition of the
cradle have any effect on the reception?

Thanks again.

OT New aerials/cables advice please - chapter 2...
 

In message , JoeJoe
wrote

http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3

OT
There is an advert on that page (for an IQ test) that says

"What is your level of intelligence?"

"Which of the following numbers appears on the image?"

Three options for the answer are given 75, 94 or 74

The image is a standard (Ishihara?) colour blind test image to detect
red-green deficiencies.

What correlation is there between IQ and colour blindness?

A colour blind test can be found at
http://virtualcampus.kcl.ac.uk/colourblindness/
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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In article , Alan wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3

OT
There is an advert on that page (for an IQ test) that says

"What is your level of intelligence?"

"Which of the following numbers appears on the image?"

Three options for the answer are given 75, 94 or 74

The image is a standard (Ishihara?) colour blind test image to detect
red-green deficiencies.

What correlation is there between IQ and colour blindness?

I think it's testing to see if you're intelligent enough to realise
that there isn't any.

Rod.
--
Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/

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Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:18:19 +0100, Conor wrote:

In article ,
JoeJoe says...

I tried to phone them once I realised the fixing bracket was broken
at 16:00 yesterday, but there was no one there... I may have to
try and speak to someone on Monday morning to try and make sense of
it.

If you can't even bolt a simple TV aerial together, you're going to
be stuffed for the rest of it. Maybe you should phone your new mate
Bill to come and fit it. After all, it was Bill who recommended that
lovely aerial that's currently making you look dumber than a
chimpanzee.

Why do you have to be so rude?

Because he's an imbecile and can't help it.
--
^..^ This is Kitty. Copy and paste Kitty into your signature to help
her wipe out Bunny's world domination.

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"JoeJoe" wrote in message
...

See photos of aerial with tape measure here (opens to exactly 1 foot - see
red marking on tape):
http://tinypic.com/r/1z5pu0k/3
http://tinypic.com/r/jptnhi/3

I also took some more accurate measurements - see here (not in perspective
to simplify matters):
http://tinypic.com/r/5l0y9c/3

It's a Gp E. Dipole is same as a B, but directors are shorter.


Assuming the aerial is a Gp E, the cradle probably won't fit between the
elements properly. It's a common problem. Just shave a bit off on side of
one or both cradle clips, so it will fit. The cradle must of course span
the boom join.

That's not a problem - I can do that. BTW, do you mean that the cradle
needs to be fitted as described in the instructions, or would the way I
fitted it be ok?
Yes, course it would.

Following the instructions will make it even more off balance,
Blake's instructions are ********. Don't run the cable off the way they say.
Tape it every inch of the way. If the dipole orientation makes the cable
come off towards the reflector take it off (you have to take the reflector
bracket off to do this) and turn it round, so you can run the cable towards
the cradle, then down same to mast.

they way I fitted it meant that it was closer to the reflectors (but not
in equal distance on either side of the bracket). Doed the poition of the
cradle have any effect on the reception?
No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!

Bill

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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!

Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30 knots...

--
Geo

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"Geo" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"

wrote:

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!

Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30
knots...


Exactly where I am! With a bit of rain for good measure...


Still waiting for a replacement for the chimney bracket hat arived broken,
so can't do it today anyway.

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"Geo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"

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No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get on
that roof boy!

Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30
knots...

I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.

Bill

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"Geo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:47:26 +0100, "Bill Wright"

wrote:

No. Just do it as you see fit. Come on, it's Sunday, the sun's out. Get
on
that roof boy!

Unless you are in Central Scotland where it is squally and gusting 30
knots...


Exactly where I am! With a bit of rain for good measure...


Still waiting for a replacement for the chimney bracket hat

I say, the milliners in your area must be very innovative!

bill

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wrote


I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.


The weather is always nice when you're in the pub.

--
Alan
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:05:27 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.

It probably was in the east. Certainly wasn't in the west.
--
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Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

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"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , Bill Wright
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I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.


The weather is always nice when you're in the pub.

Yes, that's true, but the poor love on the wagon because she is 8.5 months
preggers! Anyway, they've been to see that dreadful leftie Marcus Brigstocke
and Four Puffs and a Piano.

Bill

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"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:05:27 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.

It probably was in the east. Certainly wasn't in the west.

It always rains when I visit the west of Scotland.

Bill

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"Alan White" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:05:27 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.

It probably was in the east. Certainly wasn't in the west.

It always rains when I visit the west of Scotland.

Your sentence would have been just as accurate if you've simply replaced the
"...when I visit..." with "in" in your sentence...

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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:39:04 +0100, "JoeJoe" wrote:

Your sentence would have been just as accurate if you've simply replaced the
"...when I visit..." with "in" in your sentence...

It didn't rain here on Friday 7th but we did have 46.4 mm on Friday 14th
to compensate.
--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

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"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , Bill Wright
wrote


I'm surprised at that because my daughter is at the festival and says the
weather yesterday was beautiful.


The weather is always nice when you're in the pub.

Yes, that's true, but the poor love on the wagon because she is 8.5 months
preggers! Anyway, they've been to see that dreadful leftie Marcus
Brigstocke

He really is bad, always the low point of the Now Show and that really is
low. Spews forth political bile without any humour. Saw him a few years ago
at the festival (as part of a bigger show) and he was the low point of that
as well, don't know how he got the job at Radio 4, must know the right
people.

Z

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He seems to be part of this modern media incestuous circle, where
people with no recognisable talent whatsoever become celebrities
through sarcasm at the expense of other people with talent. We are
all entitiled to have opinions, and in appropriate circumstances to
express them, (-: indeed, I've been known to express a few myself :-)
but when whole genres of programmes are built around such a negative
concept, the result is not funny, merely sour grapes.

For example, apart from the occasional guests from the pop scene, who
often seem a little at a loss, 'Never Mind The Buzzcocks' seems to
consist entirely of people who have never had a hit record criticising
'humorously others who have. Now, in common with myself, you may not
like the majority of pop records, but the point still stands that
these people who are the butt of the jokes have accomplished
something, whereas most of those on the panel have not.

'They Think It's All Over' is entirely anal-ogous with regard to
Sport.

For me, the lowest point for Marcus Brigstocke was in his programme on
Beethoven, wherein he described one of the world's greatest ever
composers as having "an anger management problem". Whether true or
not, I care not. We know and care about Beethoven because of the
glorious music he wrote, not because he was a saint. The day that
Marcus Brigstocke writes a symphony that is remotely as good as
anything by Beethoven, then I will not only listen to it, but also to
his remarks on Beethoven's character, but, until then, he can shut the
f*ck up.

BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:06:52 +0100, "Zimmy" wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Anyway, they've been to see that dreadful leftie Marcus
Brigstocke

He really is bad, always the low point of the Now Show and that really is
low. Spews forth political bile without any humour. Saw him a few years ago
at the festival (as part of a bigger show) and he was the low point of that
as well, don't know how he got the job at Radio 4, must know the right
people.

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He seems to be part of this modern media incestuous circle, where
people with no recognisable talent whatsoever become celebrities
through sarcasm at the expense of other people with talent.

Remember Josie Lawrence? She seemed to be on all the comedy shows for a
while (probably as the token female*) before someone eventually realised
that she just wasn't funny. Now she has reached her true vocation, as a bit
part in Eastenders.

*Now there seems to be quite a few female stand-ups coming through that are
actually quite funny.

Z

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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist extremism,
anarchy and communism. They work for the end of civilisation as we know it.
They are dour humourless supporters of the nanny state and of political
correctness. They should all be executed.

Bill

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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist extremism,
anarchy and communism. They work for the end of civilisation as we know
it. They are dour humourless supporters of the nanny state and of
political correctness. They should all be executed.
Bill

Have you plans for the use of Scandinavia then?
They are all lefties

Steve Terry

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist extremism,
anarchy and communism. They work for the end of civilisation as we know
it. They are dour humourless supporters of the nanny state and of
political correctness. They should all be executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

Z

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On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:57:46 +0100, "Zimmy" wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist extremism,
anarchy and communism. They work for the end of civilisation as we know
it. They are dour humourless supporters of the nanny state and of
political correctness. They should all be executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

Relax! By that definition, they only exist in any significant
quantity in Bill's mind. The problem can therefore be solved much
more humanely by executing Bill.


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"Zimmy" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist extremism,
anarchy and communism. They work for the end of civilisation as we know
it. They are dour humourless supporters of the nanny state and of
political correctness. They should all be executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

No, only lefties.

Bill

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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:57:46 +0100, "Zimmy" wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist extremism,
anarchy and communism. They work for the end of civilisation as we know
it. They are dour humourless supporters of the nanny state and of
political correctness. They should all be executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

Relax! By that definition, they only exist in any significant
quantity in Bill's mind. The problem can therefore be solved much
more humanely by executing Bill.

That seems a bit harsh. Any chance of probabtion, or a Community Service
Order?

Bill

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist
extremism, anarchy and communism. They work for the end of
civilisation as we know it. They are dour humourless supporters of
the nanny state and of political correctness. They should all be
executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

No, only lefties.

You've spoilt all the fun now. Surely we can add at least religious
extremists can't we? Please?

Oh well, all right.

Bill

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Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist
extremism, anarchy and communism. They work for the end of
civilisation as we know it. They are dour humourless supporters of
the nanny state and of political correctness. They should all be
executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

No, only lefties.

You've spoilt all the fun now. Surely we can add at least religious
extremists can't we? Please?

Bob.

Does that include bishops and archbishops?
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her wipe out Bunny's world domination.

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"Adrian" wrote in message
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Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist
extremism, anarchy and communism. They work for the end of
civilisation as we know it. They are dour humourless supporters of
the nanny state and of political correctness. They should all be
executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

No, only lefties.

You've spoilt all the fun now. Surely we can add at least religious
extremists can't we? Please?

Bob.

Does that include bishops and archbishops?

Only the daft ones, like whatsisface who said that the New Orleans hurricane
was God's punishment for homosexuality (or whatever he said).

Bill

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Zimmy" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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BTW, what's wrong with being a leftie?

Lefties are anti-capitalists who flirt with environmentalist extremism,
anarchy and communism. They work for the end of civilisation as we know
it. They are dour humourless supporters of the nanny state and of
political correctness. They should all be executed.

So we should execute all extremists then? ;-)

No, only lefties.
Bill

Left of whom?
If left of Maggi T, that wouldn't leave anyone!

Steve Terry

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You've spoilt all the fun now. Surely we can add at least religious
extremists can't we? Please?

Why limit it to just Muslims? :)

--
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In message , Alan
writes
In message , Bob Latham
wrote

You've spoilt all the fun now. Surely we can add at least religious
extremists can't we? Please?

Why limit it to just Muslims? :)

To me, a religious extremist is someone who joins a church.
--
Ian