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Bill Wright August 17th 09 11:48 AM

You and Yours
 

"jamie powell" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Some do - the pure highway for example.

That's for vehicles, as you well know.


There's no reason why it couldn't be used in a house, with appropriate AC
adaptor.


More wires. More junk cluttering the place.

Bill



Paul D.Smith[_2_] August 17th 09 11:49 AM

You and Yours
 
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...rs_14_08_2009/

I'm surprised that you hounds haven't leapt upon this and devoured it. Go
to the 47 minute point and marvel at the sheer bloody cheek of the bloke,
telling the most outrageous lies about DAB and FM. A total morass of
misinformation. What the chuff is a '£25 adaptor'?

Bill


Others have responded to your questions but I would also point out the extra
power required for DAB. Now we're not talking Megawatts per receiver but
compare any DAB receiver to a PP3 powered tranny - you won't find any DAB
receivers even close to this.

As an active LibDem (pause for laughter) I've exchanged e-mails with one of
our MPs and his offices has forwarded my questions to the "powers that be"
and the answers are every but as clear, precise and accurate as those on
"You-and-yours".

My favourite was that they likened a DAB receiver to a Windows PC and
requiring upgrades periodically. Now I don't know about you but I certainly
don't replace my radio every 10 years but at a conservative rate of 4.7m
radios per year (there are currently 47m+ in the UK) that's quite a nice
little revenue stream. Wonder how many new radios are currently sold per
year.

Paul DS


Bill Wright August 17th 09 11:50 AM

You and Yours
 

"seani" wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 2:29 am, "Bill Wright"
wrote:
You have a long history of helpful and generally friendly posting

combined with a healthy measure if self deprecation, so I'm a but
surprised you seem to have been stung by such an innocuous remark and
a *very* mild dig.

I wasn't stung by it. I just thought it was daft.

Bill




[email protected] August 17th 09 11:56 AM

You and Yours
 
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:49:59 +0100
"Paul D.Smith" wrote:
Others have responded to your questions but I would also point out the extra
power required for DAB. Now we're not talking Megawatts per receiver but
compare any DAB receiver to a PP3 powered tranny - you won't find any DAB
receivers even close to this.

As an active LibDem (pause for laughter) I've exchanged e-mails with one of
our MPs and his offices has forwarded my questions to the "powers that be"
and the answers are every but as clear, precise and accurate as those on
"You-and-yours".


You might want to ask about digital TV in the same letter. The government
makes all the right noises about reducing energy usage with one hand , then
with the other hand is attempting to make analogue TVs obselete to be replaced
by far more power hungry digital setups. And thats before you get into the
waste issue of millions of perfectly good analogue TVs being junked because
the owners find it easier to buy a new one than set up a converter box.

B2003


seani August 17th 09 02:15 PM

You and Yours
 
On Aug 17, 10:50*am, "Bill Wright"
wrote:
"seani" wrote in message

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On Aug 17, 2:29 am, "Bill Wright"
wrote:You have a long history of helpful and generally friendly posting

combined with a healthy measure if self deprecation, so I'm a but
surprised you seem to have been stung by such an innocuous remark and
a *very* mild dig.

I wasn't stung by it. I just thought it was daft.


Fair enough.

Anyway.

What was the conclusion in the end, if it was possible to come to one?
It didn't look like any of the possibilities (car based, DAB-FM
retransmitter, headless-DAB-receiver-with-line-out) was anything that
anyone would want to live with. The £25 adaptor I spotted that
appeared to fit the bill turned out to be second had, so not
representative. Nothing else fitting that description seems to come
close in terms of price.


Paul D.Smith[_2_] August 17th 09 03:02 PM

You and Yours
 
You might want to ask about digital TV in the same letter. The government
makes all the right noises about reducing energy usage with one hand ,
then
with the other hand is attempting to make analogue TVs obselete to be
replaced
by far more power hungry digital setups. And thats before you get into the
waste issue of millions of perfectly good analogue TVs being junked
because
the owners find it easier to buy a new one than set up a converter box.


I understand what you are saying and you are correct however the difference
is far less from the perspective of usage. There are very few portable TVs
around which really are portable and even campsites have mains power these
days. Compare this to the number of radios being carried around and
listened to on the move daily as well as radios being used in the garden
etc.

Paul DS.


Richard Evans[_2_] August 17th 09 03:33 PM

You and Yours
 
seani wrote:


What was the conclusion in the end, if it was possible to come to one?
It didn't look like any of the possibilities (car based, DAB-FM
retransmitter, headless-DAB-receiver-with-line-out) was anything that
anyone would want to live with. The £25 adaptor I spotted that
appeared to fit the bill turned out to be second had, so not
representative. Nothing else fitting that description seems to come
close in terms of price.


When the £25 price was mentioned, did he mean the price of something
available now, or did he mean the prices that would be likely to be
available at the time of FM switch off?

Richard E.

Richard Evans[_2_] August 17th 09 03:36 PM

You and Yours
 
Paul D.Smith wrote:
You might want to ask about digital TV in the same letter. The government
makes all the right noises about reducing energy usage with one hand ,
then
with the other hand is attempting to make analogue TVs obselete to be
replaced
by far more power hungry digital setups. And thats before you get into
the
waste issue of millions of perfectly good analogue TVs being junked
because
the owners find it easier to buy a new one than set up a converter box.


I understand what you are saying and you are correct however the
difference is far less from the perspective of usage. There are very
few portable TVs around which really are portable and even campsites
have mains power these days. Compare this to the number of radios being
carried around and listened to on the move daily as well as radios being
used in the garden etc.


Also paying £20 for a set top box, is small compared to the price of
buying a TV, but the same argument doesn't work for radio.

Richard E.

jamie powell August 17th 09 03:46 PM

You and Yours
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"jamie powell" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Some do - the pure highway for example.
That's for vehicles, as you well know.


There's no reason why it couldn't be used in a house, with appropriate AC
adaptor.


More wires. More junk cluttering the place.


Less wires than the line-input-based adaptor which you were complaining
about not being able to use.



jamie powell August 17th 09 03:58 PM

You and Yours
 

"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
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I've got one of these FM modulators here, which I bought to plug into my
hi-fi so that I could listen to stuff on my computer when in the bathroom.
I never even bother using it any more because of the messing about
involved.


I have a Belkin one which I power from an old mobile phone charger. It's
used to relay radio stations from my 19.2E satellite receiver.
The charger only consumes 3w, and the modulator shuts itself off when no
audio is being fed to it, so I leave it plugged in and out of sight.
No messing about involved, and the signal covers the whole apartment.




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