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No Name August 13th 09 09:46 PM

Digital change over problems
 
Earlier this week BBC2 analogue was switched off on the Caradon Hill
transmitter and we were advised to retune TVs. My newer Toshiba retuned OK.
However, my older Sony KV-28DX30U digital TV will not now receive BBC1, BBC2
or channel 5. I have tried both automatic programme search and manual tuning
and can't find these channels. Both TVs are on the same aerial system and
reception is 'good' according to the Toshiba. Can anyone help/advise please?
Perhaps my Sony - I believe one of the first digital TVs- cannot receive
these new channels. Its programme sort function on it has always been dodgy.

Peter



Mark Carver August 14th 09 09:22 AM

Digital change over problems
 
wrote:
Earlier this week BBC2 analogue was switched off on the Caradon Hill
transmitter and we were advised to retune TVs. My newer Toshiba retuned OK.
However, my older Sony KV-28DX30U digital TV will not now receive BBC1, BBC2
or channel 5. I have tried both automatic programme search and manual tuning
and can't find these channels. Both TVs are on the same aerial system and
reception is 'good' according to the Toshiba. Can anyone help/advise please?
Perhaps my Sony - I believe one of the first digital TVs- cannot receive
these new channels. Its programme sort function on it has always been dodgy.


I'm afraid that your TV is not compatible with the 8K COFDM standard,
that all digital transmitters are adopting after analogue switch off.
You'll lose the ability to receive the remaining digital channels from
Caradon Hill next month. This is a separate problem to the channel
sorting issues (split NIT) that you might have seen mentioned,

I think your TV is too old to be modified (sometimes a software update
can be applied to enable 8k working) Check with Sony, and if they don't
know what you're talking about, refer them to this link:-

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/as...d-7_May_09.pdf

A fix of course is to purchase a Freeview set top box, or PVR and use
that plugged into the TV.

--
Mark
www.paras.org.uk

Simon Higgs August 14th 09 10:06 AM

Digital change over problems
 
Mark Carver wrote:

I think your TV is too old to be modified (sometimes a software update
can be applied to enable 8k working) Check with Sony, and if they don't
know what you're talking about, refer them to this link:-


I had to call Sony about a similar TV. This was the reply.

Having checked our data base i can confirm that the television that you
have is not compatible with the 8K transmition that is going to happen
when the switch over begins. When the original sets were designed and
marketed, Sony was not aware that the Government would make further
changes to the broadcast system and these changes were not specified
when we designed the sets. As a result, Sony is not responsible for the
incompatibility of our early sets.

Simon.

No Name August 14th 09 03:53 PM

Digital change over problems
 
Thanks for comments and info.. I have also contacted SONY and they told me
there is no fix and I should purchase a set top box!!

Peter

"Simon Higgs" wrote in message
valid...
Mark Carver wrote:

I think your TV is too old to be modified (sometimes a software update
can be applied to enable 8k working) Check with Sony, and if they don't
know what you're talking about, refer them to this link:-


I had to call Sony about a similar TV. This was the reply.

Having checked our data base i can confirm that the television that you
have is not compatible with the 8K transmition that is going to happen
when the switch over begins. When the original sets were designed and
marketed, Sony was not aware that the Government would make further
changes to the broadcast system and these changes were not specified
when we designed the sets. As a result, Sony is not responsible for the
incompatibility of our early sets.

Simon.




Peter Duncanson August 15th 09 06:29 PM

Digital change over problems
 
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:54:05 +0100,
lid (Alan Pemberton) wrote:

Simon Higgs wrote:

I had to call Sony about a similar TV. This was the reply.

Having checked our data base i can confirm that the television that you
have is not compatible with the 8K transmition that is going to happen
when the switch over begins. When the original sets were designed and
marketed, Sony was not aware that the Government would make further
changes to the broadcast system and these changes were not specified
when we designed the sets. As a result, Sony is not responsible for the
incompatibility of our early sets.


Amazing, isn't it? A wireless set built in the 1920s could still work
today. A telly built in 1936 could still have worked until the 405-line
service closed down in 1985. A vhf radio built in 1955 could still work
today in mono. A 625-line telly built in 1964 could still work today in
B&W. A vhf stereo radio built in 1967 could still work today. A colour
telly built in 1967 could still work today. A teletext receiver built in
1976 could still work today. A DVB-T telly made this century is
obsolete.


Isn't it analogous to the 405-line telly? A DVB-T telly made this
century would continue to work if compatible transmissions continued.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Ian Jackson[_2_] August 15th 09 06:43 PM

Digital change over problems
 
In message , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:54:05 +0100,
(Alan Pemberton) wrote:

Simon Higgs wrote:

I had to call Sony about a similar TV. This was the reply.

Having checked our data base i can confirm that the television that you
have is not compatible with the 8K transmition that is going to happen
when the switch over begins. When the original sets were designed and
marketed, Sony was not aware that the Government would make further
changes to the broadcast system and these changes were not specified
when we designed the sets. As a result, Sony is not responsible for the
incompatibility of our early sets.


Amazing, isn't it? A wireless set built in the 1920s could still work
today. A telly built in 1936 could still have worked until the 405-line
service closed down in 1985. A vhf radio built in 1955 could still work
today in mono. A 625-line telly built in 1964 could still work today in
B&W. A vhf stereo radio built in 1967 could still work today. A colour
telly built in 1967 could still work today. A teletext receiver built in
1976 could still work today. A DVB-T telly made this century is
obsolete.


Isn't it analogous to the 405-line telly? A DVB-T telly made this
century would continue to work if compatible transmissions continued.

http://www.bvws.org.uk/405alive/
It says, "Perhaps you thought that 405-line television died out in 1985?
Not at all!"
--
Ian

Steve Terry[_2_] August 15th 09 06:49 PM

Digital change over problems
 

"Alan Pemberton" wrote in message
rve.co.uk.invalid...
Simon Higgs wrote:

I had to call Sony about a similar TV. This was the reply.

Having checked our data base i can confirm that the television that you
have is not compatible with the 8K transmition that is going to happen
when the switch over begins. When the original sets were designed and
marketed, Sony was not aware that the Government would make further
changes to the broadcast system and these changes were not specified
when we designed the sets. As a result, Sony is not responsible for the
incompatibility of our early sets.


Amazing, isn't it? A wireless set built in the 1920s could still work
today. A telly built in 1936 could still have worked until the 405-line
service closed down in 1985. A vhf radio built in 1955 could still work
today in mono. A 625-line telly built in 1964 could still work today in
B&W. A vhf stereo radio built in 1967 could still work today. A colour
telly built in 1967 could still work today. A teletext receiver built in
1976 could still work today. A DVB-T telly made this century is
obsolete.


But it'll have been made in China with a designed life expectancy
of a couple of years anyway.

Steve Terry



Mark Carver August 15th 09 06:56 PM

Digital change over problems
 
wrote:
Thanks for comments and info.. I have also contacted SONY and they told me
there is no fix and I should purchase a set top box!!


Don't feel so bad, a friend of mine had the same model TV, but his went bang
and blew itself up in a cloud of black smoke last Christmas, so it never even
made it to DSO.


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk

Graham.[_2_] August 15th 09 06:59 PM

Digital change over problems
 


A teletext receiver built in 1976 could still work today.


But the ones built in 74 & 75 were rendered useless :-(
--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Peter Duncanson August 15th 09 07:47 PM

Digital change over problems
 
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:43:38 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Peter Duncanson
writes
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:54:05 +0100,
(Alan Pemberton) wrote:

Simon Higgs wrote:

I had to call Sony about a similar TV. This was the reply.

Having checked our data base i can confirm that the television that you
have is not compatible with the 8K transmition that is going to happen
when the switch over begins. When the original sets were designed and
marketed, Sony was not aware that the Government would make further
changes to the broadcast system and these changes were not specified
when we designed the sets. As a result, Sony is not responsible for the
incompatibility of our early sets.

Amazing, isn't it? A wireless set built in the 1920s could still work
today. A telly built in 1936 could still have worked until the 405-line
service closed down in 1985. A vhf radio built in 1955 could still work
today in mono. A 625-line telly built in 1964 could still work today in
B&W. A vhf stereo radio built in 1967 could still work today. A colour
telly built in 1967 could still work today. A teletext receiver built in
1976 could still work today. A DVB-T telly made this century is
obsolete.


Isn't it analogous to the 405-line telly? A DVB-T telly made this
century would continue to work if compatible transmissions continued.

http://www.bvws.org.uk/405alive/
It says, "Perhaps you thought that 405-line television died out in 1985?
Not at all!"


I wonder whether there are enough 405-line enthusiasts to make it
worthwhile to build a box that would take digital stuff and downscale it
to 405 lines and remove the colour.


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)


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