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vigman August 13th 09 11:03 AM

Splitter question
 
Hi

I want to take a spur off an existing external aerial cable.
Previously the external splitter I used was round and allowed a tight
pinned cable to be cut and the top section clamped into the top of the
splitter and the lower cut section into the bottom (with the new spur
coming out of a side clamp). This needed no slack on the existing
cable when cut.

However I have just bought a splitter and all the inputs and outputs
will be fed from the bottom. How much slack will I need on the
existing fitted cable to use this? Also why have the round, top/bottom
fed splitters, that needed no slack, disappeared?? If they haven't
where can I get one please?

Also what is the law regarding splitting someone else's existing cable
(more complicated as I am the landlord for three flats and can't reach
my own cable to split!!?)

Any help/advice welcomed

Vigman

Bigguy[_4_] August 13th 09 05:31 PM

Splitter question
 
vigman wrote:
Hi

I want to take a spur off an existing external aerial cable.
Previously the external splitter I used was round and allowed a tight
pinned cable to be cut and the top section clamped into the top of the
splitter and the lower cut section into the bottom (with the new spur
coming out of a side clamp). This needed no slack on the existing
cable when cut.

However I have just bought a splitter and all the inputs and outputs
will be fed from the bottom. How much slack will I need on the
existing fitted cable to use this? Also why have the round, top/bottom
fed splitters, that needed no slack, disappeared?? If they haven't
where can I get one please?

Also what is the law regarding splitting someone else's existing cable
(more complicated as I am the landlord for three flats and can't reach
my own cable to split!!?)


Well I don't know what the law says, but, if you cut into my aerial feed
without asking I'd come round and give you a kicking...

Guy

Graham.[_2_] August 13th 09 06:48 PM

Splitter question
 


"Bigguy" wrote in message
...
vigman wrote:
Hi

I want to take a spur off an existing external aerial cable.
Previously the external splitter I used was round and allowed a tight
pinned cable to be cut and the top section clamped into the top of the
splitter and the lower cut section into the bottom (with the new spur
coming out of a side clamp). This needed no slack on the existing
cable when cut.

However I have just bought a splitter and all the inputs and outputs
will be fed from the bottom. How much slack will I need on the
existing fitted cable to use this? Also why have the round, top/bottom
fed splitters, that needed no slack, disappeared?? If they haven't
where can I get one please?

Also what is the law regarding splitting someone else's existing cable
(more complicated as I am the landlord for three flats and can't reach
my own cable to split!!?)


Well I don't know what the law says, but, if you cut into my aerial feed
without asking I'd come round and give you a kicking...


I wonder what the protocol is about chimney lashing around
the shared stack of a semi.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



neverwas[_3_] August 13th 09 07:25 PM

Splitter question
 

Criminal damage would apply.


Is there not an argument that a satellite cable is not a "tenant's
fixture" but is rather a "landlord's fixture"? (My ignorance of land
law is near immaculate but IIRC much depends on whether the fixture is
intended to be a permanent and effect a lasting improvement to the
property or a temporary attachment doing no more than is necessary for
the asset to be used. So a satellite cable which is nailed to
brickwork, passes through the wall etc might at least be argued to be
the landlord's. Of course if the dish just sits on a flat roof and the
cable was thrown through the window then.......)


--
R



Doctor D August 13th 09 07:46 PM

Splitter question
 

"vigman" wrote in message
...
Hi

I want to take a spur off an existing external aerial cable.
Previously the external splitter I used was round and allowed a tight
pinned cable to be cut and the top section clamped into the top of the
splitter and the lower cut section into the bottom (with the new spur
coming out of a side clamp). This needed no slack on the existing
cable when cut.

However I have just bought a splitter and all the inputs and outputs
will be fed from the bottom. How much slack will I need on the
existing fitted cable to use this? Also why have the round, top/bottom
fed splitters, that needed no slack, disappeared?? If they haven't
where can I get one please?

Also what is the law regarding splitting someone else's existing cable
(more complicated as I am the landlord for three flats and can't reach
my own cable to split!!?)

Any help/advice welcomed

Vigman


I believe this would require you to properly earth the aerial feed as you
are introducing the potential to cross the three phase conductors on the
mains supply for the flats. Did you pay to fit the tenant's aerial, or will
you in effect be "stealing" signal from an aerial paid for by someone else?
What have you agreed to provide as landlord with regard to the aerials?

If you go ahead; with digital switch over arriving, you should use a
screened splitter and ensure that there is sufficient signal strength to
enable the introduction of a passive splitter to be successful.
I don't know of any top feed external splitters as they would require
substantial waterproofing to prevent dripping water entering the top. Taps
for trunk cables can be laid out as you describe but you would need an
external one and know how to acquire and use the correct one.


Bill Wright August 13th 09 08:46 PM

Splitter question
 

"Graham." wrote in message
...
I wonder what the protocol is about chimney lashing around
the shared stack of a semi.


In the early days people used to complain about this. Often we could detect
that they were motivated by jealousy. Of course, we would fix the aerial
without a lashing kit, then a year or so later when the complaining
neighbour had forgotten all about it and saved up for a telly of his own,
the tables would be turned.

Bill



Bill Wright August 13th 09 08:48 PM

Splitter question
 

"vigman" wrote in message
...
Hi

I want to take a spur off an existing external aerial cable.
Previously the external splitter I used was round and allowed a tight
pinned cable to be cut and the top section clamped into the top of the
splitter and the lower cut section into the bottom (with the new spur
coming out of a side clamp). This needed no slack on the existing
cable when cut.

However I have just bought a splitter and all the inputs and outputs
will be fed from the bottom. How much slack will I need on the
existing fitted cable to use this? Also why have the round, top/bottom
fed splitters, that needed no slack, disappeared?? If they haven't
where can I get one please?


The small inductive 'f' type splitters are suitable. CPC etc.Use self-amalg
tape on the connectors.

Bill



Brian Gaff August 14th 09 09:53 AM

Splitter question
 
This may well seem rude, but surely if you are the landlord, you should be
able to get anywhere you want!

So many questions come out of your post, I do not know where to start
really.

How old is the installation

Brian

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"vigman" wrote in message
...
Hi

I want to take a spur off an existing external aerial cable.
Previously the external splitter I used was round and allowed a tight
pinned cable to be cut and the top section clamped into the top of the
splitter and the lower cut section into the bottom (with the new spur
coming out of a side clamp). This needed no slack on the existing
cable when cut.

However I have just bought a splitter and all the inputs and outputs
will be fed from the bottom. How much slack will I need on the
existing fitted cable to use this? Also why have the round, top/bottom
fed splitters, that needed no slack, disappeared?? If they haven't
where can I get one please?

Also what is the law regarding splitting someone else's existing cable
(more complicated as I am the landlord for three flats and can't reach
my own cable to split!!?)

Any help/advice welcomed

Vigman




Brian Gaff August 14th 09 09:57 AM

Splitter question
 
When I had my old system on the chimney, the offer was to add a free aerial
for the next door, and that then either shut them up or they were just
ignored.

Brian

--
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Graham." wrote in message
...
I wonder what the protocol is about chimney lashing around
the shared stack of a semi.


In the early days people used to complain about this. Often we could
detect that they were motivated by jealousy. Of course, we would fix the
aerial without a lashing kit, then a year or so later when the complaining
neighbour had forgotten all about it and saved up for a telly of his own,
the tables would be turned.

Bill




Zimmy[_2_] August 14th 09 12:08 PM

Splitter question
 

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om...

This may well seem rude, but surely if you are the landlord, you should be
able to get anywhere you want!


He says he is only the landlord for three of the flats in the building.

Z




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