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Slider August 12th 09 10:41 AM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 
I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my old blue
sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

Any ideas?



Brian Mc[_3_] August 12th 09 11:58 AM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 
slider wrote:
: I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my old blue
: sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

I think they have thought of that one! AFAIK there is a procedure you need
to follow on the STB to fully enable the new card - and this diables the
old one!!

Mark Carver August 12th 09 12:53 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 
Brian Mc wrote:
slider wrote:
: I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my old blue
: sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

I think they have thought of that one! AFAIK there is a procedure you need
to follow on the STB to fully enable the new card - and this diables the
old one!!


How does the old one know it's been disabled though ? Presumably the
box does a 'phone home' after it's enabled the new card, to invalidate
the old card by sticking a signal on Sky's satellite Videoguard carousel ?

If that is the case, you could try unplugging the phone line before
inserting the new card, that *might* extend the old card's life, but
only by a week or two I suspect ?


Sheila August 12th 09 03:25 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Brian Mc wrote:
slider wrote:
: I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my old
blue : sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

I think they have thought of that one! AFAIK there is a procedure you
need
to follow on the STB to fully enable the new card - and this diables the
old one!!


How does the old one know it's been disabled though ? Presumably the box
does a 'phone home' after it's enabled the new card, to invalidate the old
card by sticking a signal on Sky's satellite Videoguard carousel ?

If that is the case, you could try unplugging the phone line before
inserting the new card, that *might* extend the old card's life, but only
by a week or two I suspect ?


It doesn't need to phone anyone. Remember, the card is married to the box.
The procedure when you insert the new card is to link the new card to your
box, breaking the relationship with the old card. This is all driven by the
software in the box, phoneline is only required for Multiroom.

The old card would have the same relationship with the 'friends box' as it
always had.

Sheila



Brian Mc[_3_] August 12th 09 03:35 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 
Sheila wrote:
: It doesn't need to phone anyone. Remember, the card is married to the box.
: The procedure when you insert the new card is to link the new card to your
: box, breaking the relationship with the old card.

Marriage, of couse, only affects the Premium Channels and the Sky+ facility.

AFAIK once a STB has had the new card inserted it will no longer accept ANY
old blue one (including its own).

: The old card would have the same relationship with the 'friends box' as it
: always had.

This may well be correct - the "friends" STB will not have seen a white card
so that non-premium channels should continue to work!

Mark Carver August 12th 09 03:49 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 
Brian Mc wrote:
Sheila wrote:
: It doesn't need to phone anyone. Remember, the card is married to the box.
: The procedure when you insert the new card is to link the new card to your
: box, breaking the relationship with the old card.

Marriage, of couse, only affects the Premium Channels and the Sky+ facility.


And curiously not all Sky+ functionality.

To my surprise, using a Sky subs card that was married to another box (a
non Sky+ one) I was able to use it in my Sky+HD box, and record FTA
channels, including BBC HD. It did not allow me to record FTV or 'subs'
channels, though of course I could still view any non premium channel.

Graham.[_2_] August 12th 09 05:53 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 


"Sheila" wrote in message
om...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Brian Mc wrote:
slider wrote:
: I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my old
blue : sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

I think they have thought of that one! AFAIK there is a procedure you
need
to follow on the STB to fully enable the new card - and this diables the
old one!!


How does the old one know it's been disabled though ? Presumably the box
does a 'phone home' after it's enabled the new card, to invalidate the
old card by sticking a signal on Sky's satellite Videoguard carousel ?

If that is the case, you could try unplugging the phone line before
inserting the new card, that *might* extend the old card's life, but only
by a week or two I suspect ?


It doesn't need to phone anyone. Remember, the card is married to the box.
The procedure when you insert the new card is to link the new card to your
box, breaking the relationship with the old card. This is all driven by
the software in the box, phoneline is only required for Multiroom.

The old card would have the same relationship with the 'friends box' as it
always had.


No, the non-premium subscription channels would be
expected to work in a "foreign" box. For a while anyway.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Sheila August 12th 09 08:12 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 

"Graham." wrote in message
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"Sheila" wrote in message
om...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Brian Mc wrote:
slider wrote:
: I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my old
blue : sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

I think they have thought of that one! AFAIK there is a procedure you
need
to follow on the STB to fully enable the new card - and this diables
the old one!!

How does the old one know it's been disabled though ? Presumably the
box does a 'phone home' after it's enabled the new card, to invalidate
the old card by sticking a signal on Sky's satellite Videoguard carousel
?

If that is the case, you could try unplugging the phone line before
inserting the new card, that *might* extend the old card's life, but
only by a week or two I suspect ?


It doesn't need to phone anyone. Remember, the card is married to the
box. The procedure when you insert the new card is to link the new card
to your box, breaking the relationship with the old card. This is all
driven by the software in the box, phoneline is only required for
Multiroom.

The old card would have the same relationship with the 'friends box' as
it always had.


No, the non-premium subscription channels would be
expected to work in a "foreign" box. For a while anyway.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


Did I say that they wouldn't? I repeat "The old card would have the same
relationship with the 'friends box' as it
always had."

The question was "How does the old one know it's been disabled though ?
Presumably the box
does a 'phone home' after it's enabled the new card."

The answer was "No, it doesn't phone anyone, the procedure is driven by the
software in the box"

Sheila



Glenn Millar[_2_] August 12th 09 10:33 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 
slider wrote:
I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my old blue
sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

Any ideas?


Sky updated all cards/software prior to issuing the new cards. All
channels now state wrong card for this set top box...


Graham.[_2_] August 12th 09 10:41 PM

Sky card - blue card with yellow house
 


"Sheila" wrote in message
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"Graham." wrote in message
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"Sheila" wrote in message
om...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Brian Mc wrote:
slider wrote:
: I have just received my new white sky card. Was going to give my
old blue : sky card to a friend but unsure how long it will work for.

I think they have thought of that one! AFAIK there is a procedure you
need
to follow on the STB to fully enable the new card - and this diables
the old one!!

How does the old one know it's been disabled though ? Presumably the
box does a 'phone home' after it's enabled the new card, to invalidate
the old card by sticking a signal on Sky's satellite Videoguard
carousel ?

If that is the case, you could try unplugging the phone line before
inserting the new card, that *might* extend the old card's life, but
only by a week or two I suspect ?


It doesn't need to phone anyone. Remember, the card is married to the
box. The procedure when you insert the new card is to link the new card
to your box, breaking the relationship with the old card. This is all
driven by the software in the box, phoneline is only required for
Multiroom.

The old card would have the same relationship with the 'friends box' as
it always had.


No, the non-premium subscription channels would be
expected to work in a "foreign" box. For a while anyway.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


Did I say that they wouldn't? I repeat "The old card would have the same
relationship with the 'friends box' as it
always had."

The question was "How does the old one know it's been disabled though ?
Presumably the box
does a 'phone home' after it's enabled the new card."

The answer was "No, it doesn't phone anyone, the procedure is driven by
the software in the box"

Sheila


Yes. Sorry.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%




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