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Jason April 20th 04 10:18 PM

Buy hdtv now or wait a month or two?
 
Hello all,

Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm going
to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should wait.
Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a month,
maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm VERY
anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones come out
or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,

Jason

Alan Figgatt April 20th 04 10:38 PM

Jason wrote:
Hello all,

Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm going
to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should wait.
Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a month,
maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm VERY
anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones come out
or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,

Jason


From what I can tell, a lot of new models come out in from Spring to
Summer in the US market, although that is not, by any means, a hard
rule. For the higher end plasmas, Pioneer and Sony have introduced new
models recently and Panasonic is supposed to be shipping their new 42
and 50" PX25 consumer models soon.

For the DLP based RPTVs, Samsung which effectively created the market
for the DLP RP TVs, will be rolling out their new HLP 2004 models
starting in June. There a bunch of new DLP RPTVs starting to come out
from other companies. See http://www.digiupdate.com/105_DLP_RPTV.html
for a useful overview of the DLP sets. There are also LCD based RPTVs
from Sony and several others with some new models already out (I think).

I am not up on the direct view CRTs, because I planning to go for
something larger later in the summer or early fall. Don't know if it
will be DLP RPTV, plasma, or bigger LCD, although the larger LCD TVs are
still very expensive and have catching up to do on picture quality.

So my advice would be to wait - a lot of the new models are coming out
with reductions in the MSRP which should also result in big discounts on
the now older models.

Alan Figgatt



Todd April 21st 04 03:01 PM


"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm going
to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should wait.
Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a month,
maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm VERY
anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones come

out
or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,

Jason


Did you here?

If you've got the money, definitely buy before midsummer, when the federal
HDTV tax goes into effect.

Officially, it's not a tax, just a mandate that starting July 1 half of all
sets 36 inches and larger will have to include a digital tuner that allows
you to pull down over-the-air HD signals. The tuners retail separately for
about $350.

By July 2007 they'll be required in all sets 13 inches and up. If you're
getting your HD feed from a cable or satellite box, this feature is money
down the drain, and you're probably going to be paying for it.



Richard C. April 21st 04 04:25 PM

"Jason" wrote in message
...
: Hello all,
:
: Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm
going
: to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should
wait.
: Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a
month,
: maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm VERY
: anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones
come out
: or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,
:
=======================
Why not just wait another 10 years..........



[email protected] April 21st 04 04:39 PM

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:01:57 -0400, "Todd"
wrote:


.... starting July 1 half of all
sets 36 inches and larger will have to include a digital tuner


By July 2007 they'll be required in all sets 13 inches and up.


Hmmm, that means the ones that don't may be steeply discounted. If
your in the 36" range,I'd wait till after July

I noticed Sears has started discounting their oleder models




Bob Miller April 21st 04 06:30 PM

Todd wrote:

"Jason" wrote in message
...

Hello all,

Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm going
to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should wait.
Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a month,
maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm VERY
anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones come


out

or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,

Jason



Did you here?

If you've got the money, definitely buy before midsummer, when the federal
HDTV tax goes into effect.

Officially, it's not a tax, just a mandate that starting July 1 half of all
sets 36 inches and larger will have to include a digital tuner that allows
you to pull down over-the-air HD signals. The tuners retail separately for
about $350.

By July 2007 they'll be required in all sets 13 inches and up. If you're
getting your HD feed from a cable or satellite box, this feature is money
down the drain, and you're probably going to be paying for it.


OR just make sure that if you wait that you buy a monitor with NO tuner
in it after the mandate goes into affect.

A monitor that contains no NTSC tuner is not required to have an ATSC
tuner. And I wouldn't expect the manufacturers to put the best 8-VSB
receivers in their integrated sets.

Just buy a monitor anyway. Play it safe. If you have a separate cable or
satellite box it will have an NTSC tuner in it anyway.

Ed T April 21st 04 11:00 PM

Mitsubishi just announced its new line of HDTVs that will be available later
this year.
You can read about them under news at their web site www.mitsubishi-tv.com.
Mits usually makes their new models available in the fall and at the same
time substantially
discounts the existing previous years inventory.
Ed
"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm going
to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should wait.
Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a month,
maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm VERY
anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones come

out
or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,

Jason




Bob Miller April 21st 04 11:36 PM

Ed T wrote:
Mitsubishi just announced its new line of HDTVs that will be available later
this year.
You can read about them under news at their web site www.mitsubishi-tv.com.
Mits usually makes their new models available in the fall and at the same
time substantially
discounts the existing previous years inventory.
Ed
"Jason" wrote in message
...

Hello all,

Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm going
to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should wait.
Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a month,
maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm VERY
anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones come


out

or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,

Jason


One problem that still confronts anyone buying an HDTV set or monitor
today is the possibility that Congress will close "the analog hole" and
make any non complying HDTV set only capable of a lower non HD
resolution. Or has everyone just in denial on that small problem?


David April 22nd 04 01:23 AM

"Bob Miller" wrote
One problem that still confronts anyone buying an HDTV set or monitor
today is the possibility that Congress will close "the analog hole" and
make any non complying HDTV set only capable of a lower non HD
resolution. Or has everyone just in denial on that small problem?



It's a problem to connect an HDTV set-top-box to the "non complying" HDTV
set?




Ed T April 22nd 04 02:20 AM

What is a "non complying HDTV?"
What "analog hole" are you talking about?
Why do you think congress will want to get involved?

One problem that still confronts anyone buying an HDTV set or monitor
today is the possibility that Congress will close "the analog hole" and
make any non complying HDTV set only capable of a lower non HD
resolution. Or has everyone just in denial on that small problem?




Randy Sweeney April 22nd 04 02:52 AM


"David" wrote in message
...
"Bob Miller" wrote
One problem that still confronts anyone buying an HDTV set or monitor
today is the possibility that Congress will close "the analog hole" and
make any non complying HDTV set only capable of a lower non HD
resolution. Or has everyone just in denial on that small problem?



It's a problem to connect an HDTV set-top-box to the "non complying" HDTV
set?


Hollywood wants to force the hardware guys to disable the HD component
outputs of the cable boxes and OTA ATSC receivers when the broadcast
"do-not-copy" flag is set.... allowing the true 1080 or 720 to be output
ONLY on the digitally authenticated DVI output and then if the connected
display is digitally authenticated as incapable of output for copy.

Essentially turning our component video input HD monitors into SD monitors
by remote control from the studios.

So far, Congress and the FCC have said NO WAY... but Hollywood's flunkies in
Congress will do anything to please their masters.



Bob Miller April 22nd 04 05:38 AM

Randy Sweeney wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...

"Bob Miller" wrote

One problem that still confronts anyone buying an HDTV set or monitor
today is the possibility that Congress will close "the analog hole" and
make any non complying HDTV set only capable of a lower non HD
resolution. Or has everyone just in denial on that small problem?



It's a problem to connect an HDTV set-top-box to the "non complying" HDTV
set?



Hollywood wants to force the hardware guys to disable the HD component
outputs of the cable boxes and OTA ATSC receivers when the broadcast
"do-not-copy" flag is set.... allowing the true 1080 or 720 to be output
ONLY on the digitally authenticated DVI output and then if the connected
display is digitally authenticated as incapable of output for copy.

Essentially turning our component video input HD monitors into SD monitors
by remote control from the studios.

So far, Congress and the FCC have said NO WAY... but Hollywood's flunkies in
Congress will do anything to please their masters.


If Congress and the FCC were willing to disregard the citizen's interest
when they crammed 8-VSB down your throat for a foreign interest like LG
Ind. why do you think they wouldn't do the bidding of Hollywood?

David April 22nd 04 01:10 PM

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
nk.net...
Randy Sweeney wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...

"Bob Miller" wrote

One problem that still confronts anyone buying an HDTV set or monitor
today is the possibility that Congress will close "the analog hole" and
make any non complying HDTV set only capable of a lower non HD
resolution. Or has everyone just in denial on that small problem?


If Congress and the FCC were willing to disregard the citizen's interest
when they crammed 8-VSB down your throat for a foreign interest like LG
Ind. why do you think they wouldn't do the bidding of Hollywood?


LG is an excellent company.
8VSB is a much better choice for the U.S. and Canada than cofdm,
which is power hungry *and* interference plagued...



Richard C. April 22nd 04 04:13 PM

I just saw an Akai 55" HDTV with built-in ATSC receiver at Sam's Club.

Only $1297.00

======================================
"Ed T" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
: Mitsubishi just announced its new line of HDTVs that will be available
later
: this year.
: You can read about them under news at their web site
www.mitsubishi-tv.com.
: Mits usually makes their new models available in the fall and at the
same
: time substantially
: discounts the existing previous years inventory.
: Ed
: "Jason" wrote in message
: ...
: Hello all,
:
: Is there a time of year when TV makers come out with new models? I'm
going
: to be getting a HD set sometime soon and I'm wondering if I should
wait.
: Are there any new models coming out soon, 1-2 months. i can wait a
month,
: maybe two before I buy. Now that I have the money to buy one I'm
VERY
: anxious to have one. Do the old models drop in price when new ones
come
: out
: or are new ones cheaper? Thanks,
:
: Jason
:
:



Richard C. April 22nd 04 04:15 PM


"Bob Miller" wrote in message
nk.net...
:
: If Congress and the FCC were willing to disregard the citizen's
interest
: when they crammed 8-VSB down your throat for a foreign interest like
LG
: Ind. why do you think they wouldn't do the bidding of Hollywood?

===============
Actually, their choice in that matter should give us MORE confidence in
them.




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