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Since yesterday I have had problems with DVB subtitles, specifically on
ITV! West Midlands, they work ok on 888, I know that BBC1 works, but I
have not tried all channels. I don't think it is my hardware as it is
the same on my Humax and my Panasonic TV. Anyone else having problems,
any idea as to the cause?
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Alan Pemberton wrote:
Broadback wrote:

Since yesterday I have had problems with DVB subtitles, specifically on
ITV! West Midlands, they work ok on 888, I know that BBC1 works, but I
have not tried all channels. I don't think it is my hardware as it is
the same on my Humax and my Panasonic TV. Anyone else having problems,
any idea as to the cause?

The cause is some piece of kit that isn't working properly.

The reason it is allowed to happen is that nobody cares.

The thing about digital telly, as everyone keeps saying, is that 'it
either works or it doesn't'. In my experience it mostly doesn't.

Thanks Alan, I think I will make a complaint to ITV.

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"Alan Pemberton" wrote in message
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Broadback wrote:

Alan Pemberton wrote:
Broadback wrote:

Since yesterday I have had problems with DVB subtitles, specifically
on
ITV! West Midlands, they work ok on 888, I know that BBC1 works, but I
have not tried all channels. I don't think it is my hardware as it is
the same on my Humax and my Panasonic TV. Anyone else having problems,
any idea as to the cause?

The cause is some piece of kit that isn't working properly.

The reason it is allowed to happen is that nobody cares.

The thing about digital telly, as everyone keeps saying, is that 'it
either works or it doesn't'. In my experience it mostly doesn't.

Thanks Alan, I think I will make a complaint to ITV.

I hope you have some success. In 2000 I used to write regularly to a
bloke at YTV whenever the box at Crosspool needed kicking in order for
it to regurgitate DVB-T subtitles. They didn't monitor it themselves.
Nowadays there aren't any 'blokes' to write to of course.

On satellite I've seen several ITV regions that had 888 subtitles but
not DVB ones (even though they are advertised in the menu of my FTA
receiver) at times.

At the moment YTV on Crosspool analogue is unwatchable due to some lf
noise (like the old 405-line sound-on-vision, but random) on the
picture, and the BBC channels are blighted by flecks of white, as though
the carrier is dropping out for a few microseconds at a time. Perhaps no
one watches analogue around here any longer.

Isn't this something that the RNID ought to be kicking the Companies to do
properly.

Whilst far from deaf I'm needing to use the sub more an more, but often they
are useless.-

1) transmitted far out of sync, perhaps 20-30 seconds late.

2) "live" subs are used on "filmed live" programs even though they aren't
broadcast until a later date. This means that they are transmitted out of
sync (but perhaps only by 5 second). However this also means that they
contain the same phonetic mistakes that live broadcasts contain and no-one
make any attempt to correct this. Why do this do this? How can live subs
possible be cheaper than adding them afterwards?

tim

Freesat sub titles query
 

tim..... wrote:
"Alan Pemberton" wrote in message
erve.co.uk.invalid...
Broadback wrote:

Alan Pemberton wrote:
Broadback wrote:

Since yesterday I have had problems with DVB subtitles, specifically
on
ITV! West Midlands, they work ok on 888, I know that BBC1 works, but I
have not tried all channels. I don't think it is my hardware as it is
the same on my Humax and my Panasonic TV. Anyone else having problems,
any idea as to the cause?
The cause is some piece of kit that isn't working properly.

The reason it is allowed to happen is that nobody cares.

The thing about digital telly, as everyone keeps saying, is that 'it
either works or it doesn't'. In my experience it mostly doesn't.

Thanks Alan, I think I will make a complaint to ITV.
I hope you have some success. In 2000 I used to write regularly to a
bloke at YTV whenever the box at Crosspool needed kicking in order for
it to regurgitate DVB-T subtitles. They didn't monitor it themselves.
Nowadays there aren't any 'blokes' to write to of course.

On satellite I've seen several ITV regions that had 888 subtitles but
not DVB ones (even though they are advertised in the menu of my FTA
receiver) at times.

At the moment YTV on Crosspool analogue is unwatchable due to some lf
noise (like the old 405-line sound-on-vision, but random) on the
picture, and the BBC channels are blighted by flecks of white, as though
the carrier is dropping out for a few microseconds at a time. Perhaps no
one watches analogue around here any longer.

Isn't this something that the RNID ought to be kicking the Companies to do
properly.

Whilst far from deaf I'm needing to use the sub more an more, but often they
are useless.-

1) transmitted far out of sync, perhaps 20-30 seconds late.

2) "live" subs are used on "filmed live" programs even though they aren't
broadcast until a later date. This means that they are transmitted out of
sync (but perhaps only by 5 second). However this also means that they
contain the same phonetic mistakes that live broadcasts contain and no-one
make any attempt to correct this. Why do this do this? How can live subs
possible be cheaper than adding them afterwards?

tim





Yes the RNID are very helpful and will be my second port of call.

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