Ads on guide screen
 

I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

-- Richard
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Ads on guide screen
 

Richard Tobin wrote:
I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

-- Richard

My panasonic TV has these ads. My panasonic PVR has the same guide but
without the ads. On the TV they just squeeze up the text to make space
for the ad - there is the same info on both screens.

The ads come over the freeview datastream. I don't know who pays. I
guess panasonic pay a licence per tv sold to whoever provides the TV
guide info and maybe the licence is cheaper if they take the ads.

The TV handbook states that the Ads are based upon the postcode you
configure into the TV during setup. I've never tried to put in a duff
postcode or no code at all to see if anything changes but I do remember
that for the first couple of days the space for the ads just contained
the "viera" logo presumably until it had download the ads. I've had the
TV about 3 months now and the ads always seem to be for Radio Times or
other BBC magazines.

Chris

Ads on guide screen
 

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

The facility is on my new 42" Panasonic.
I have no idea why, what, whatever - I will ask on Avforums.
I can't see any way to turn it off - just to select targetted adverts by
inputting your postcode.

Ads on guide screen
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
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"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

The facility is on my new 42" Panasonic.
I have no idea why, what, whatever - I will ask on Avforums.
I can't see any way to turn it off - just to select targetted adverts by
inputting your postcode.

Yes, you'd certainly pay extra for a feature like that ;-)


--
Graham.

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Ads on guide screen
 

Richard Tobin wrote:
I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

-- Richard
I would NOT buy any TV that had this 'feature'...

Tell all the sales staff that this 'feature' is a deal breaker...

A truly vile idea.

Guy

Ads on guide screen
 

In article ,
Bigguy wrote:

I would NOT buy any TV that had this 'feature'...

Tell all the sales staff that this 'feature' is a deal breaker...

A truly vile idea.

I was going to send mail to Pansonic about it, but you have to agree
to "terms and conditions" to send them mail from their website!

-- Richard
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Ads on guide screen
 

Richard Tobin wrote:
I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

-- Richard

This is probably the 4tv guide (I think that's the name), you get 14
days and they pay the manufacturer for putting the software into their
product. Same thing happened on the Setpals, which previously didn't
have the 7 days epg, due to lack of support/going bust etc. It is only
broadcast on one mux and must be updated during the night + you get adverts.

There is a 7 day epg that is free (well covered by TV licence I suppose)
its free for any manufacturer to use on Freeview and transmitted
continuously on all muxes.

Not sure where the law stands on it being forced on you, but most do
have an off selection or an ability to select the normal 7 day epg.

On Freesat I think there is a deal manufacturers have to sign up to
otherwise you can't get the epg, but its more to control the
manufacturers so that they play ball with content protection.

--
Tony

Ads on guide screen
 

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:40:31 +0100, Mike Henry
wrote:

In ,
(Richard Tobin) wrote:

In article ,
Bigguy wrote:

I would NOT buy any TV that had this 'feature'...

Tell all the sales staff that this 'feature' is a deal breaker...

A truly vile idea.

I was going to send mail to Pansonic about it, but you have to agree
to "terms and conditions" to send them mail from their website!

Good grief. It seems they are doing everything they can to turn away
customers, then!

Yes. Panasonic is no longer on my "maybe" list for a newer, larger, TV
sometime.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Ads on guide screen
 

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:53:05 +0100, Bigguy wrote:

Richard Tobin wrote:
I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

-- Richard
I would NOT buy any TV that had this 'feature'...

Tell all the sales staff that this 'feature' is a deal breaker...

A truly vile idea.

+1

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Ads on guide screen
 

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
I went to John Lewis today, because I was thinking of getting a new
Panasonic television. Only a couple of them had remotes so that I
could actually try looking at different channels. But when I looked
at the guide about a third of the screen was occupied by an
advertisement! What's more, I couldn't find any way to get rid of
it. Naturally there were no staff around to answer questions.

Where do these ads come from? Who is getting paid for them? Can
they be switched off? If I pay about a thousand popunds for a TV I
don't expect to have to put up with ads just to change channels,
quite apart from it wasting much of the display space - it shows
fewer channels, and a smaller time range, than my existing TV.
Is this just a Panasonic thing?

The facility is on my new 42" Panasonic.
I have no idea why, what, whatever - I will ask on Avforums.
I can't see any way to turn it off - just to select targetted adverts by
inputting your postcode.

http://www.europe.guideplus.com/En/o...ce/models.html

It doesn't seem to be having much impact on the Panasonic community - it is
one of the things you regret then ignore, I suppose.
It is a minor irritant in an otherwise outsdtanding TV.
Also, I think that a lot of users will have Sky or Virgin feeds and so not
use the Freeview as their main system.
I wonder if there is any measurement of 'click through' for the adverts?
If so, perhaps the advertisers will abandon the service after a while.