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Paul Heslop July 25th 09 11:41 PM

Mr. Ed
 
Froot Bat wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:25:30 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote:

Matthew Maltloaf wrote:

"Graham." wrote in message
...

"B Hughes" wrote in message
...
We do not like TOP POSTERS in uf+dm. Please learn how to post proper
should you wish to return. You have been warned.

And you may wish to read Brian's signature, and be grateful he won't
wish his affliction upon you.

I read his signature. I suspect it is not Brian's wish he be treated
different from other posters, more likely your own view, you PC jobsworth.


I'm sure he will speak for himself but if I remember rightly he uses a
speech program and obviously, without being able to see the posts it
is helpful for him if the message is at the top then he can just
'read' the relevant part.


The fact that B Hughes is a troll notwithstanding...

How is any of the above 'obvious'?

I'm not sure that I used the phrase obvious. I actually think the
response would have been out of order to anyone, never mind a blind
person. I might not like top posting, but I don't go out looking for
people who do.

How is anyone supposed to know that a Usenet poster they don't know
uses a speech program?

That's why I pointed it out :O)

How does him top posting affect the readability of other posts? Either
way he posts, top or bottom, the other posts are still where they
always were and where they should be: at the bottom, under a bunch of
quoted text.

I think, again if I remember rightly, he has posted this way for a
long time and it is just the easiest way for him. Let me clarify
something, unlike many of the people in this thread I have been around
the same groups as Brian for a long time, which is the only reason I
have posted in his defence. I still think the original reply was
ignorant and abusive and for no good reason.

Perhaps it is simply easier for him to top post. That's a different
argument altogether. It's probably easier for a lot of people to top
post. That doesn't mean they should do it. It's generally frowned upon
because top posting makes threads messy and harder to follow.

I know, you are preaching to the always have bottom posted.

It's even worse when he replies because all previous posts end up
below his sig separator and are discarded in replies to him, so all
thread context is lost.

and again, I know, but we should not, as this person has done, try to
force our ways onto someone who has found the best way he can to do
whatever he can, and, as I have already said, whatever the reason for
the TP it doesn't excuse being spoken to like you're some sort of
retard.

I'm all for 'accessibility' for people with disabilities, but I don't
see why just because someone has a disability they should get a free
pass from criticism when they post badly.

and neither should someone who is against such a practice given the
excuse to abuse someone who does it.

YOU may have read his sig but did the person who saw fit to chastise
him? I don't think so.


Why should someone be expected to read a sig? Do you read _all_ sigs
from _all_ posters? Only time I read sigs is by accident when they are
short one liners. A sig separator is a sign for most people to stop
reading.

As it is, I just read his sig. It says 'Blind user, no pics please'.

It does not say, "Blind user - that is why I am top posting. Sorry."


No, I know. Like I said, he is blind, he does things his way and I
applaud him for that and as I also said, I find no excuse for the
original reply, whether or not Brian was blind.

I am sorry if i come across as making excuses for brian, he is more
than capable of speaking for himself, but there was no reason for the
open arrogance of the original reply.

--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Paul Heslop July 25th 09 11:42 PM

Mr. Ed
 
Bill Wright wrote:

"B Hughes" wrote in message
...
We do not like TOP POSTERS in uf+dm. Please learn how to post proper
should you wish to return. You have been warned.


Who the **** are you, coming on here and laying the law down? 'You have been
warned' my arse. Pillock.

Bill


xposted Bill, all over the place :O)

--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Paul Heslop July 25th 09 11:46 PM

Mr. Ed
 
"Graham." wrote:

"Woody" wrote in message
...
Four Feather Falls was Gerry (Thunderbirds) Anderson.
Anyone remember Phyllis Diller in The Pruitts of Southampton?

C. 1966?



I rather think Four Feather Falls was somewhat earlier than
that - possibly 1963-ish?

Having typed that I remembered that Google is your friend.....

1958!!!!!!! (well in the States anyway.) 1960 over here.

Geez, I feel old.

I remember FFF quite well. You no doubt will
have discovered Anderson had an earlier production
called The Adventures of Twizzle which I have no memory of.

After FFF he did Torchy the Battery Boy thereby setting
the space-travel trend.

Anyone remember Space Patrol? not an Anderson series
but produced by Roberta Leigh who wrote the scripts for twizzle
and Torchy.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


could someone enlighten me on FFF. I have this stupid and probably
very un PC song stuck in my head but can't find out where it's from,
except my old brain seems to link it with FFF

It went something like

Old chief Binbo's in a stew, Bumalakawee
he don't know just what to do, bumalakawee


Happily that as much as I have clearly, and that's probably wrong :O)

--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

fs July 25th 09 11:46 PM

Mr. Ed
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"B Hughes" wrote in message
...
We do not like TOP POSTERS in uf+dm. Please learn how to post proper
should you wish to return. You have been warned.


Who the **** are you, coming on here and laying the law down? 'You have
been warned' my arse. Pillock.

Bill


Poor B Hughes is blind. Apart from repeating the warning to you I have also
sent abuse reports to:



c.c. news.giganews.net
c.c. The management uk.food+drink.misc



fs July 26th 09 12:04 AM

Mr. Ed
 

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Froot Bat wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:25:30 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote:

Matthew Maltloaf wrote:

"Graham." wrote in message
...

"B Hughes" wrote in message
...
We do not like TOP POSTERS in uf+dm. Please learn how to post
proper
should you wish to return. You have been warned.

And you may wish to read Brian's signature, and be grateful he won't
wish his affliction upon you.

I read his signature. I suspect it is not Brian's wish he be treated
different from other posters, more likely your own view, you PC
jobsworth.

I'm sure he will speak for himself but if I remember rightly he uses a
speech program and obviously, without being able to see the posts it
is helpful for him if the message is at the top then he can just
'read' the relevant part.


The fact that B Hughes is a troll notwithstanding...

How is any of the above 'obvious'?

I'm not sure that I used the phrase obvious. I actually think the
response would have been out of order to anyone, never mind a blind
person. I might not like top posting, but I don't go out looking for
people who do.


And neither do I, but should I come across this despicable practice I feel
duty bound to point it out. Would you turn the other cheek if you saw a
child playing in heavy traffic?


How is anyone supposed to know that a Usenet poster they don't know
uses a speech program?

That's why I pointed it out :O)


Are you a CPSO? You sound like one.


How does him top posting affect the readability of other posts? Either
way he posts, top or bottom, the other posts are still where they
always were and where they should be: at the bottom, under a bunch of
quoted text.

I think, again if I remember rightly, he has posted this way for a
long time and it is just the easiest way for him. Let me clarify
something, unlike many of the people in this thread I have been around
the same groups as Brian for a long time, which is the only reason I
have posted in his defence. I still think the original reply was
ignorant and abusive and for no good reason.


Oh I see. It is the easiest way for him, eh? It's a good job we don't all
have that attitude to life and our duties or the country would be in an even
bigger mess than it is in now.


Perhaps it is simply easier for him to top post. That's a different
argument altogether. It's probably easier for a lot of people to top
post. That doesn't mean they should do it. It's generally frowned upon
because top posting makes threads messy and harder to follow.

I know, you are preaching to the always have bottom posted.


Then you too should be upbraiding Brian, not making excuses because of his
disability. If blind people can run the London Marathon then there is
nothing to stop them from not top posting.


It's even worse when he replies because all previous posts end up
below his sig separator and are discarded in replies to him, so all
thread context is lost.

and again, I know, but we should not, as this person has done, try to
force our ways onto someone who has found the best way he can to do
whatever he can, and, as I have already said, whatever the reason for
the TP it doesn't excuse being spoken to like you're some sort of
retard.


Why not? You NuLiebour people are forever forcing your new rules and
regulations on people who over a lifetime have found the best way they can
of doing things. Your argument does not wash.




I'm all for 'accessibility' for people with disabilities, but I don't
see why just because someone has a disability they should get a free
pass from criticism when they post badly.

and neither should someone who is against such a practice given the
excuse to abuse someone who does it.


You mistake good and relevant advice with "abuse". As I say, you NuLiebour
people are all the same whatever vrank you hold. Excuses for your cronies
who don't obey the rules but woe betide any of the hoi-polloi who dare
transgress. You more than likely fiddle expenses too.


YOU may have read his sig but did the person who saw fit to chastise
him? I don't think so.


Why should someone be expected to read a sig? Do you read _all_ sigs
from _all_ posters? Only time I read sigs is by accident when they are
short one liners. A sig separator is a sign for most people to stop
reading.

As it is, I just read his sig. It says 'Blind user, no pics please'.

It does not say, "Blind user - that is why I am top posting. Sorry."


No, I know. Like I said, he is blind, he does things his way and I
applaud him for that and as I also said, I find no excuse for the
original reply, whether or not Brian was blind.


And neither do I, for *no* excuses are needed. Right is right, right?


I am sorry if i come across as making excuses for brian, he is more
than capable of speaking for himself, but there was no reason for the
open arrogance of the original reply.


You were the arrogant one, but that's par for the course with your type.
Just like Jack Straw, ex communist hippy and now laying down the law. You
people make me sick.


--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/


You will break very easily come the next election!



fs July 26th 09 12:05 AM

Mr. Ed
 

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:

"B Hughes" wrote in message
...
We do not like TOP POSTERS in uf+dm. Please learn how to post proper
should you wish to return. You have been warned.


Who the **** are you, coming on here and laying the law down? 'You have
been
warned' my arse. Pillock.

Bill


xposted Bill, all over the place :O)

--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/


Oh, so now you think it funny to post filthy language and abuse all over the
Usenet but are quick to find excuse for a top poster just because he is
blind? Double standards springs to mind.



[email protected] July 26th 09 12:19 AM

Mr. Ed
 
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:04:53 +0100, "Graham." wrote:



"Woody" wrote in message
...
Four Feather Falls was Gerry (Thunderbirds) Anderson.
Anyone remember Phyllis Diller in The Pruitts of Southampton?

C. 1966?



I rather think Four Feather Falls was somewhat earlier than
that - possibly 1963-ish?

Having typed that I remembered that Google is your friend.....

1958!!!!!!! (well in the States anyway.) 1960 over here.

Geez, I feel old.

I remember FFF quite well. You no doubt will
have discovered Anderson had an earlier production
called The Adventures of Twizzle which I have no memory of.

After FFF he did Torchy the Battery Boy thereby setting
the space-travel trend.

Anyone remember Space Patrol? not an Anderson series
but produced by Roberta Leigh who wrote the scripts for twizzle
and Torchy.



I remember Twizzle. Used to streach the legs and arms to the
accompning ratcheting sound. The legs looked like the the twisted
metal skewers.

She also wrote Hoppity. I remeber the theme tune and the character
her swinging on a gate!

Episodes of Space Patrol I believe were posted on one of the SCFI news
groups last year. I can't remember if I downloaded them. I used to
like that series.

never liked Torchy though. Really started for me with Supercar and
Fireball XL5 though!

Steve

Paul Heslop July 26th 09 01:21 AM

Mr. Ed
 
fs wrote:

I'm not sure that I used the phrase obvious. I actually think the
response would have been out of order to anyone, never mind a blind
person. I might not like top posting, but I don't go out looking for
people who do.


And neither do I, but should I come across this despicable practice I feel
duty bound to point it out. Would you turn the other cheek if you saw a
child playing in heavy traffic?

not quite on the same lines, but I wouldn't shout "hey you little git
get off the road and if you go on the road again I'm going to run you
over!" :O)


How is anyone supposed to know that a Usenet poster they don't know
uses a speech program?

That's why I pointed it out :O)


Are you a CPSO? You sound like one.


wots one of them?



How does him top posting affect the readability of other posts? Either
way he posts, top or bottom, the other posts are still where they
always were and where they should be: at the bottom, under a bunch of
quoted text.

I think, again if I remember rightly, he has posted this way for a
long time and it is just the easiest way for him. Let me clarify
something, unlike many of the people in this thread I have been around
the same groups as Brian for a long time, which is the only reason I
have posted in his defence. I still think the original reply was
ignorant and abusive and for no good reason.


Oh I see. It is the easiest way for him, eh? It's a good job we don't all
have that attitude to life and our duties or the country would be in an even
bigger mess than it is in now.

oh dear. it would, of course, have been easier if the OP didn't
plaster this whole thing over half of usenet. he did, and it happened
and someone decided to behave like a prat in response... rather than
having a go at the xposter.


Perhaps it is simply easier for him to top post. That's a different
argument altogether. It's probably easier for a lot of people to top
post. That doesn't mean they should do it. It's generally frowned upon
because top posting makes threads messy and harder to follow.

I know, you are preaching to the always have bottom posted.


Then you too should be upbraiding Brian, not making excuses because of his
disability. If blind people can run the London Marathon then there is
nothing to stop them from not top posting.

No, it is his way and whatever he finds that makes his life bearable
is okay by me. He is a better man than I am gunga din.

It's even worse when he replies because all previous posts end up
below his sig separator and are discarded in replies to him, so all
thread context is lost.

and again, I know, but we should not, as this person has done, try to
force our ways onto someone who has found the best way he can to do
whatever he can, and, as I have already said, whatever the reason for
the TP it doesn't excuse being spoken to like you're some sort of
retard.


Why not? You NuLiebour people are forever forcing your new rules and
regulations on people who over a lifetime have found the best way they can
of doing things. Your argument does not wash.


oh good grief. If you want to find someone to fight with at least get
your facts straight. I hated new tory once I saw tony B Liar's big
smug tory grin.


I'm all for 'accessibility' for people with disabilities, but I don't
see why just because someone has a disability they should get a free
pass from criticism when they post badly.

and neither should someone who is against such a practice given the
excuse to abuse someone who does it.


You mistake good and relevant advice with "abuse". As I say, you NuLiebour
people are all the same whatever vrank you hold. Excuses for your cronies
who don't obey the rules but woe betide any of the hoi-polloi who dare
transgress. You more than likely fiddle expenses too.

get your facts straight, and if you think that reply was good advice
and not abuse then you are seriously warped. just spoiling for a fight
eh?


YOU may have read his sig but did the person who saw fit to chastise
him? I don't think so.

Why should someone be expected to read a sig? Do you read _all_ sigs
from _all_ posters? Only time I read sigs is by accident when they are
short one liners. A sig separator is a sign for most people to stop
reading.

As it is, I just read his sig. It says 'Blind user, no pics please'.

It does not say, "Blind user - that is why I am top posting. Sorry."


No, I know. Like I said, he is blind, he does things his way and I
applaud him for that and as I also said, I find no excuse for the
original reply, whether or not Brian was blind.


And neither do I, for *no* excuses are needed. Right is right, right?

nothing is black and white.

I am sorry if i come across as making excuses for brian, he is more
than capable of speaking for himself, but there was no reason for the
open arrogance of the original reply.


You were the arrogant one, but that's par for the course with your type.
Just like Jack Straw, ex communist hippy and now laying down the law. You
people make me sick.


You will break very easily come the next election!


huh, read previous anti new tory crap as i can't be bothered.


--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Paul Heslop July 26th 09 01:23 AM

Mr. Ed
 
fs wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:

"B Hughes" wrote in message
...
We do not like TOP POSTERS in uf+dm. Please learn how to post proper
should you wish to return. You have been warned.

Who the **** are you, coming on here and laying the law down? 'You have
been
warned' my arse. Pillock.

Bill


xposted Bill, all over the place :O)

--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/


Oh, so now you think it funny to post filthy language and abuse all over the
Usenet but are quick to find excuse for a top poster just because he is
blind? Double standards springs to mind.


it isn't MY language as it isn't MY exposting. and, oh wise one, what
do you think you do every time you reply to our posts? I haven't
edited this, and neither did you.


--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

JNugent[_4_] July 26th 09 01:28 AM

Mr. Ed
 
Paul Heslop wrote:
"Graham." wrote:
"Woody" wrote in message
...
Four Feather Falls was Gerry (Thunderbirds) Anderson.
Anyone remember Phyllis Diller in The Pruitts of Southampton?
C. 1966?


I rather think Four Feather Falls was somewhat earlier than
that - possibly 1963-ish?

Having typed that I remembered that Google is your friend.....

1958!!!!!!! (well in the States anyway.) 1960 over here.

Geez, I feel old.

I remember FFF quite well. You no doubt will
have discovered Anderson had an earlier production
called The Adventures of Twizzle which I have no memory of.

After FFF he did Torchy the Battery Boy thereby setting
the space-travel trend.


Those two ("Torchy" and "Four Feather Falls") came in the reverse order:
"Torchy" was [definitely] the earler.

IIRC, "Torchy" was shown at weekends (meaning that it was distributed by
either ATV London or ABC), whereas "FFF" was a weekday programme (ATV
Midlands, Rediffusion or Granada).



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