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Dhropta Guli July 20th 09 06:18 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate
of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set.
Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for
watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more
than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of
8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how
long does burn-in take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob

Graham.[_2_] July 20th 09 06:46 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 


"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message
...
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of
mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is
he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the
wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the
broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures.
Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in
take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob


It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute
of these PDPs. In your mate's case I would expect burn-in to be
apparent quite quickly. Talk him out of it.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



widgitt July 20th 09 09:50 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In normal use I much prefer the picture on a good plasma tv to an LCD
of a similar size but I definitely would not use one in the case you
are describing.
Permanent damage may take a little time but even if you have satellite
radio on a plasma for quite a short time (15 to 20 mins) with the
usual static radio display screen, you will see the image for some
time after changing channels.
I was given a plasma screen some time ago with such an amount of
screen burn from a large on screen channel logo that it was unusable.

Graham.[_2_] July 20th 09 09:55 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute
of these PDPs.


Yes I know, I know!
--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Java Jive July 20th 09 10:06 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
A doubly senior moment perhaps :-)

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:55:01 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute
of these PDPs.


Yes I know, I know!


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Dhropta Guli July 20th 09 10:52 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Graham. wrote:
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message
...
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of
mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is
he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the
wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the
broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures.
Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in
take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob


It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute
of these PDPs. In your mate's case I would expect burn-in to be
apparent quite quickly. Talk him out of it.

Thanks for the info. I'll try to talk him out of it.
Bob

Clive[_4_] July 21st 09 12:49 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message
...
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of
mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is
he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the
wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the
broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures.
Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in
take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob


I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV!
You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's
why people hate them.




John[_34_] July 21st 09 12:56 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Clive" wrote in message
...

"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message
...
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate
of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set.
Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for
watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than
any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8
pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long
does burn-in take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob


I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV!
You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's
why people hate them.



Plasma sounds sexy!

I am going to watch my Plasma sounds better than going home to watch my LCD.



Graham.[_2_] July 21st 09 01:18 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 


"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message
...
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate
of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set.
Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for
watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more
than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of
8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how
long does burn-in take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob


I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV!
You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's
why people hate them.



Plasma sounds sexy!


And is often used a generic term for any flat screen of any size or
technology.
And "flat screen" itself is a misnomer, I mean modern CRT faceplates are
flat,
The screen on a RPTV is flat.

They should have called them thin-screens.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



nospam July 21st 09 01:45 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
"Clive" wrote:


I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma.


Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly
accurate.
--

Java Jive July 21st 09 02:29 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Perhaps it does, but "I'm going home to watch choose a name obviously
calculated to impress" is the last thing on earth actually likely to
impress, certainly in my case at least!

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:56:53 +0100, "John"
wrote:

I am going to watch my Plasma sounds better than going home to watch my LCD.


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Bill Wright July 21st 09 05:12 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
A doubly senior moment perhaps :-)

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:55:01 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute
of these PDPs.


Yes I know, I know!


Freudian slip.

Bill



Bill Wright July 21st 09 05:13 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"John" wrote in message
...
Plasma sounds sexy!

I am going to watch my Plasma sounds better than going home to watch my
LCD.


How very shallow!

Bill



The dog from that film you saw July 21st 09 08:34 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Clive" wrote in message
...



I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV!
You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's
why people hate them.






you've fallen for the marketing hype then - the current so called LED
televisions are actually still LCD televisions - it's the light source
that's LED only.



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


Dave Plowman (News) July 21st 09 09:35 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article ,
Clive wrote:
I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma.


Err, the Samsung 'LED' set is still an LCD. And the pictures aren't
universally 'better' than other LCD displays.

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Brian Gaff July 21st 09 10:19 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
If you talk to a bbc engineer, you will soon be told Plasma ar junk as burn
in can be evident within months.

I also hate plasma because they chuck out horendous amounts of radio
frequency interference which is very hard to get rid of if you like using
ordinary radios on telescopic aerials. They also of course eat the juice
from your electricity supplier.

Maybe he can get some fancy screensaver on his new plasma that moves his
wildlife camers around th screen to stop buren in?
I'm just glad I can no longe see these shadowy marks. It was bad enough in
the old days of crts.

Brian

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"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message
...
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of
mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is
he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the
wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the
broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures.
Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in
take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob




Mike[_16_] July 21st 09 01:31 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
On Jul 20, 11:49*pm, "Clive" wrote:
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message

...

Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? *A mate of
mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is
he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the
wildlife that visits. *These cameras are on rather more than any of the
broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures.
Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in
take to happen, months or years?


Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.


Bob


I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. *Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma. *Why buy a 10 year old TV!
You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's
why people hate them.


LED = LCD with an array of backlit LEDs. NOT an oLED TV.
Now sit the LED side by side with a good plasma and tell me which is
better on a viewing basis not because it has the letters LED in its
name. You do get burn in on LCD too. I know this as I work on ATMs
which have LCD screens and yes, they too can suffer from screen burn.
Who are these people that hate Plasmas? I don't hate mine, in fact I
wouldn't part with it for the latest multi Hertz 1080p thingy.

Dr Zoidberg[_4_] July 21st 09 06:07 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
"Clive" wrote in message ...

"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message
...
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of
mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is
he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the
wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the
broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures.
Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in
take to happen, months or years?

Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him.

Bob


I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV!



The "LED" refers to the backlight.
Other than that it's a normal LCD set

--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

Mike Thomas[_3_] July 21st 09 06:23 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
nospam wrote:

"Clive" wrote:
I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma.


Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly
accurate.


That's cos "Clive" is the Tiscali Idiot. That's right -- this groups
*other* personality disordered poster.

By the way, the latest LED TVs are "Edge LED" backlit.

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av...2053016,00.htm


Roderick Stewart[_2_] July 21st 09 07:49 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article , The dog from that film
you saw wrote:
you've fallen for the marketing hype then - the current so called LED
televisions are actually still LCD televisions - it's the light source
that's LED only.


It's not marketing hype to say that LED screens are thinner, lighter and
consume less electrical power. A quick examination of the facts will
reveal all these things to be true.

As for what to call them, the light source is the thing that is notably
different about them, and "LED display" is less of a mouthfull than "LCD
display with LED backlight.

Rod.
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Andy Champ[_2_] July 21st 09 08:36 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , The dog from that film
you saw wrote:
you've fallen for the marketing hype then - the current so called LED
televisions are actually still LCD televisions - it's the light source
that's LED only.


It's not marketing hype to say that LED screens are thinner, lighter and
consume less electrical power. A quick examination of the facts will
reveal all these things to be true.

As for what to call them, the light source is the thing that is notably
different about them, and "LED display" is less of a mouthfull than "LCD
display with LED backlight.


It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.

It's about as much an LED TV as a hovercraft is an aircraft. Yes,
technically it flies, but let me see you get it over that hill.

Andy

Mike Thomas[_3_] July 21st 09 09:36 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Mike Henry wrote:

Andy Champ wrote:
... Next Big Thing is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


Is that before or after OLED (genuine question)? I've been holding out for
OLED but then I read about LASER TVs with their much wider gamuts.


He probably did mean OLEDs. Next big thing in about 4 years, that is, which
is the estimated time (that I read somewhere) for OLEDs to become
competitive with LCDs. Edge-LED backlit TVs look to be very good though,
from what I've seen in the showrooms, with the panels being very thin and
running cool.

The commentary for Eurovision earlier this year said that a very high
percentage of the entire world's stock of LED TV's were used ...
ah, more details here
http://www.martin.com/product/produc...oduct=lcseries


Ah indeed. A 4 CENTImetre pixel pitch. Presumably built with discrete LEDs.


Graham.[_2_] July 21st 09 10:02 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 


"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om...
If you talk to a bbc engineer, you will soon be told Plasma ar junk as
burn in can be evident within months.

I also hate plasma because they chuck out horendous amounts of radio
frequency interference which is very hard to get rid of if you like using
ordinary radios on telescopic aerials. They also of course eat the juice
from your electricity supplier.

Maybe he can get some fancy screensaver on his new plasma that moves his
wildlife camers around th screen to stop buren in?
I'm just glad I can no longe see these shadowy marks. It was bad enough in
the old days of crts.

Brian

It's actually quite difficult to burn a colour CRT TV (when used as a TV).

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



The dog from that film you saw July 21st 09 11:36 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Mike Henry" wrote in message

The commentary for Eurovision earlier this year said that a very high
percentage of the entire world's stock of LED TV's were used to make the
set. I presume these were real LEDs (Next Big Thing) rather than LCDs with
LED backlights. They looked very impressive indeed, the white coming out
of them was unbelievably bright!





they were the real deal - but they also had jumbo sized pixels - you would
want one of those in your living room.
you can see such screens at some train stations and public spaces - the one
in birmingham new street is wasted showing sky news.



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


Roderick Stewart[_2_] July 22nd 09 06:35 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article , Andy Champ
wrote:
It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


What would you call them instead?

And how widely known is it, really, what the Next Big Thing is going to be?
Flat panel TV sets were the Next Big Thing from the day I joined the
broadcast industry in the 1960s, but didn't appear in the shops in
meaningful numbers at sensible prices until I left it a few years ago. So
I'm not holding my breath for the next Next Big Thing, whatever it may be.

Rod.
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Richard Tobin July 23rd 09 07:30 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:
It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold
as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on
the market.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

Peter Duncanson July 23rd 09 08:11 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
On 23 Jul 2009 17:30:59 GMT, (Richard Tobin)
wrote:

In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:
It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold
as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on
the market.

I have a pair of headphones that I still use after buying them early in
the CD era.

This perfectly ordinary headphone set is labelled "CD Laser Digital".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Adrian C July 23rd 09 09:45 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Mike Thomas wrote:
nospam wrote:

"Clive" wrote:
I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma.

Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly
accurate.


That's cos "Clive" is the Tiscali Idiot. That's right -- this groups
*other* personality disordered poster.


Interestingly "Clive" was [1] a self-proclaimed expert on OLED
domination, and with that "knowledge" would have known the difference ...

[1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september.

The Eternal Tiscali Idiot ...

--
Adrian C

Adrian C July 23rd 09 10:29 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Adrian C wrote:
Mike Thomas wrote:


[1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september.


seems probably not :-(

--
Adrian C

Graham.[_2_] July 23rd 09 11:10 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold
as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on
the market.


Not to mention the cheap FM radios with numerical frequency displays
marketed as digital radio. Available in all fancy goods stores.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



Bill Wright July 24th 09 02:23 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
Mike Thomas wrote:
nospam wrote:

"Clive" wrote:
I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better
than
LCD and way better than Plasma.
Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly
accurate.


That's cos "Clive" is the Tiscali Idiot. That's right -- this groups
*other* personality disordered poster.


Interestingly "Clive" was [1] a self-proclaimed expert on OLED domination,
and with that "knowledge" would have known the difference ...

[1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september.

The Eternal Tiscali Idiot ...


It's funny how there are always misfits, coming and going. The vast majority
of people act normally, but the odd one causes all sorts of trouble, or
tries to. I suppose newsgroup people are like custormers. I've always said
that 99% of people are sane and reasonable . . . but that leaves the other
1% of course. With customers the trick is to sniff out the nutters early,
and disengage. With newsgroup people there's no need to sniff them out
early, but once they are revealed in their true colours I suppose the best
thing is to ignore them.

Bill



John[_34_] July 29th 09 03:03 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Clive wrote:
I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma.


Err, the Samsung 'LED' set is still an LCD. And the pictures aren't
universally 'better' than other LCD displays.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


I wonder if the LED source will remain a truer colour for longer than a
fluorescent / cold cathode or whatever?



Andy Champ[_2_] August 5th 09 09:51 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Mike Henry wrote:

Is that before or after OLED (genuine question)? I've been holding out for
OLED but then I read about LASER TVs with their much wider gamuts.

I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. _Then_ I'll see what is out there!

Andy

Mike[_16_] August 5th 09 11:27 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
On Aug 5, 8:51*pm, Andy Champ wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:

Is that before or after OLED (genuine question)? I've been holding out for
OLED but then I read about LASER TVs with their much wider gamuts.


I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. *_Then_ I'll see what is out there!

Andy


My CRT died. I got a Plasma and i'm really happy with it.

Roderick Stewart[_2_] August 6th 09 10:25 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article ,
Mike wrote:
I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. _Then_ I'll see what is out there!

Andy


My CRT died. I got a Plasma and i'm really happy with it.


My CRT hasn't died, but it's going to a good home. Following the purchase of a
flat screen in order to release more space in my living room, the CRT is on
Ebay. Astonishingly, bidding started on the first day (even more astonishingly
than the fact that bidding started at all actually), so I know I'm going to get
more than my advertising costs, and I won't have to suffer the near-physical
distress of discarding a perfectly good working telly as rubbish.

The only thing that bothers me about the flat screen is that the picture is a
fraction of a second behind the sound unless I use the grotty built-in
loudspeakers. The delayed audio doesn't seem to be brought out to any external
connectors, so I've had to make another purchase of an external audio delay to
correct it again.

Rod.
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Ian Jackson[_2_] August 6th 09 12:04 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In message en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart writes
In article ,
Mike wrote:
I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. _Then_ I'll see what is out there!

Andy


My CRT died. I got a Plasma and i'm really happy with it.


My CRT hasn't died, but it's going to a good home. Following the purchase of a
flat screen in order to release more space in my living room, the CRT is on
Ebay. Astonishingly, bidding started on the first day (even more astonishingly
than the fact that bidding started at all actually), so I know I'm
going to get
more than my advertising costs, and I won't have to suffer the near-physical
distress of discarding a perfectly good working telly as rubbish.

Good man. I have to confess that, at the insistence of my wife, I
eventually took a more-or-less perfectly-well-working [1] Sony to the
local dump / recycling centre.

[1] On pressing the mains on/off button, it very occasionally didn't
start up correctly, and required a re-press.

The only thing that bothers me about the flat screen is that the picture is a
fraction of a second behind the sound unless I use the grotty built-in
loudspeakers. The delayed audio doesn't seem to be brought out to any external
connectors, so I've had to make another purchase of an external audio delay to
correct it again.

That's a bad design. If that is a known 'feature', in the set-up menu, I
would have expected there to be some on-board adjustment. Care to name
and shame?
--
Ian

Roderick Stewart[_2_] August 6th 09 11:01 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article , Ian Jackson wrote:
The only thing that bothers me about the flat screen is that the picture is a
fraction of a second behind the sound unless I use the grotty built-in
loudspeakers. The delayed audio doesn't seem to be brought out to any external
connectors, so I've had to make another purchase of an external audio delay to
correct it again.

That's a bad design. If that is a known 'feature', in the set-up menu, I
would have expected there to be some on-board adjustment. Care to name
and shame?


It's one of the new 7000 series Samsung LED-illuminated TVs. It cost an obscene
amount of money but looks beautiful on the wall and makes my living room seem
twice the size thanks to the absence of the CRT on its floor stand. I expect it
to last me a very long time. Currently showing RGB external sourced via SCART as
a straight replacement for the CRT, it can apparently also show HD, should I ever
decide there are any movies that are worth purchasing a blu-ray player for.

As well as the audio ouput from the SCART, there is an optical digital output,
but I haven't got anything that can use it so don't know whether this is delayed
or undelayed. It baffles me why they would think anyone would want an out of sync
audio feed at all. I can deal with this, but it seems daft to have to buy an
external delay unit when the necessary electronics is built in, but inaccessible.
I don't know if this is the standard arrangement or is special to this TV.

Rod.
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Andy Champ[_2_] August 7th 09 12:16 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Bob Latham wrote:

My Sony CRT died. I got a Sony LCD (oh the shame of it) But I'm really
happy with it and prefer it to the CRT.


I'm sure I'd prefer a nice big flat set, which the BBC wouldn't insist
on feeding cropped pictures.

Whether I'd prefer it enough to justify the cost is another matter. And
if I wait 'til the last moment I won't feel _quite_ as bad over the new
technology that makes my new TV obsolete the next month. :)

Andy

Andy Champ[_2_] August 10th 09 12:04 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Alan Pemberton wrote:

The BBC sends cropped pictures? How so? Do you mean in the sense of
cropping 21:9-ish films to 16:9, etc?


Most 4:3 originals are cropped top-and-bottom to 14:9 for analogue and
16:9 for DTV transmission. I suspect the 14:9 is the middle 14 of the
16, so it's cropped both ways.

Andy


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