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Plasma TVs and burn-in
Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate
of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message ... Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute of these PDPs. In your mate's case I would expect burn-in to be apparent quite quickly. Talk him out of it. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
In normal use I much prefer the picture on a good plasma tv to an LCD
of a similar size but I definitely would not use one in the case you are describing. Permanent damage may take a little time but even if you have satellite radio on a plasma for quite a short time (15 to 20 mins) with the usual static radio display screen, you will see the image for some time after changing channels. I was given a plasma screen some time ago with such an amount of screen burn from a large on screen channel logo that it was unusable. |
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It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute
of these PDPs. Yes I know, I know! -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
A doubly senior moment perhaps :-)
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:55:01 +0100, "Graham." wrote: It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute of these PDPs. Yes I know, I know! ====================================== Please always reply to news group as the email address in this post's header does not exist. Alternatively, use one of the contact addresses at: http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html |
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Graham. wrote:
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message ... Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute of these PDPs. In your mate's case I would expect burn-in to be apparent quite quickly. Talk him out of it. Thanks for the info. I'll try to talk him out of it. Bob |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message ... Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV! You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's why people hate them. |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
"Clive" wrote in message ... "Dhropta Guli" wrote in message ... Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV! You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's why people hate them. Plasma sounds sexy! I am going to watch my Plasma sounds better than going home to watch my LCD. |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message ... Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV! You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's why people hate them. Plasma sounds sexy! And is often used a generic term for any flat screen of any size or technology. And "flat screen" itself is a misnomer, I mean modern CRT faceplates are flat, The screen on a RPTV is flat. They should have called them thin-screens. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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"Clive" wrote:
I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly accurate. -- |
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Perhaps it does, but "I'm going home to watch choose a name obviously
calculated to impress" is the last thing on earth actually likely to impress, certainly in my case at least! On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:56:53 +0100, "John" wrote: I am going to watch my Plasma sounds better than going home to watch my LCD. ====================================== Please always reply to news group as the email address in this post's header does not exist. Alternatively, use one of the contact addresses at: http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html |
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"Java Jive" wrote in message ... A doubly senior moment perhaps :-) On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:55:01 +0100, "Graham." wrote: It's far from a myth Bob, it's the most impotent negative attribute of these PDPs. Yes I know, I know! Freudian slip. Bill |
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"John" wrote in message ... Plasma sounds sexy! I am going to watch my Plasma sounds better than going home to watch my LCD. How very shallow! Bill |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
"Clive" wrote in message ... I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV! You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's why people hate them. you've fallen for the marketing hype then - the current so called LED televisions are actually still LCD televisions - it's the light source that's LED only. -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
In article ,
Clive wrote: I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Err, the Samsung 'LED' set is still an LCD. And the pictures aren't universally 'better' than other LCD displays. -- *The first rule of holes: If you are in one, stop digging! Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
On Jul 20, 11:49*pm, "Clive" wrote:
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message ... Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? *A mate of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. *These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. *Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. *Why buy a 10 year old TV! You do get burn-in on Plasma, especially on channels with DOGS, that's why people hate them. LED = LCD with an array of backlit LEDs. NOT an oLED TV. Now sit the LED side by side with a good plasma and tell me which is better on a viewing basis not because it has the letters LED in its name. You do get burn in on LCD too. I know this as I work on ATMs which have LCD screens and yes, they too can suffer from screen burn. Who are these people that hate Plasmas? I don't hate mine, in fact I wouldn't part with it for the latest multi Hertz 1080p thingy. |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
"Clive" wrote in message ...
"Dhropta Guli" wrote in message ... Do plasma tellies suffer from burn-in or is that an urban myth? A mate of mine really really fancies a plasma to replace his old crt set. Problem is he has a number of cctv cameras around his garden used for watching the wildlife that visits. These cameras are on rather more than any of the broadcast programmes via a box which gives him a grid of 8 pictures. Would he be risking it a bit with a plasma and if so how long does burn-in take to happen, months or years? Mines an LCD set so I can't really help him. Bob I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Why buy a 10 year old TV! The "LED" refers to the backlight. Other than that it's a normal LCD set -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away" |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
nospam wrote:
"Clive" wrote: I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly accurate. That's cos "Clive" is the Tiscali Idiot. That's right -- this groups *other* personality disordered poster. By the way, the latest LED TVs are "Edge LED" backlit. http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av...2053016,00.htm |
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In article , The dog from that film
you saw wrote: you've fallen for the marketing hype then - the current so called LED televisions are actually still LCD televisions - it's the light source that's LED only. It's not marketing hype to say that LED screens are thinner, lighter and consume less electrical power. A quick examination of the facts will reveal all these things to be true. As for what to call them, the light source is the thing that is notably different about them, and "LED display" is less of a mouthfull than "LCD display with LED backlight. Rod. -- Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/ |
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Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , The dog from that film you saw wrote: you've fallen for the marketing hype then - the current so called LED televisions are actually still LCD televisions - it's the light source that's LED only. It's not marketing hype to say that LED screens are thinner, lighter and consume less electrical power. A quick examination of the facts will reveal all these things to be true. As for what to call them, the light source is the thing that is notably different about them, and "LED display" is less of a mouthfull than "LCD display with LED backlight. It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing is going to be a genuinely LED TV. It's about as much an LED TV as a hovercraft is an aircraft. Yes, technically it flies, but let me see you get it over that hill. Andy |
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Mike Henry wrote:
Andy Champ wrote: ... Next Big Thing is going to be a genuinely LED TV. Is that before or after OLED (genuine question)? I've been holding out for OLED but then I read about LASER TVs with their much wider gamuts. He probably did mean OLEDs. Next big thing in about 4 years, that is, which is the estimated time (that I read somewhere) for OLEDs to become competitive with LCDs. Edge-LED backlit TVs look to be very good though, from what I've seen in the showrooms, with the panels being very thin and running cool. The commentary for Eurovision earlier this year said that a very high percentage of the entire world's stock of LED TV's were used ... ah, more details here http://www.martin.com/product/produc...oduct=lcseries Ah indeed. A 4 CENTImetre pixel pitch. Presumably built with discrete LEDs. |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message om... If you talk to a bbc engineer, you will soon be told Plasma ar junk as burn in can be evident within months. I also hate plasma because they chuck out horendous amounts of radio frequency interference which is very hard to get rid of if you like using ordinary radios on telescopic aerials. They also of course eat the juice from your electricity supplier. Maybe he can get some fancy screensaver on his new plasma that moves his wildlife camers around th screen to stop buren in? I'm just glad I can no longe see these shadowy marks. It was bad enough in the old days of crts. Brian It's actually quite difficult to burn a colour CRT TV (when used as a TV). -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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"Mike Henry" wrote in message The commentary for Eurovision earlier this year said that a very high percentage of the entire world's stock of LED TV's were used to make the set. I presume these were real LEDs (Next Big Thing) rather than LCDs with LED backlights. They looked very impressive indeed, the white coming out of them was unbelievably bright! they were the real deal - but they also had jumbo sized pixels - you would want one of those in your living room. you can see such screens at some train stations and public spaces - the one in birmingham new street is wasted showing sky news. -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... |
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In article , Andy Champ
wrote: It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing is going to be a genuinely LED TV. What would you call them instead? And how widely known is it, really, what the Next Big Thing is going to be? Flat panel TV sets were the Next Big Thing from the day I joined the broadcast industry in the 1960s, but didn't appear in the shops in meaningful numbers at sensible prices until I left it a few years ago. So I'm not holding my breath for the next Next Big Thing, whatever it may be. Rod. -- Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/ |
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In article ,
Andy Champ wrote: It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing is going to be a genuinely LED TV. I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on the market. -- Richard -- Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind. |
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Plasma TVs and burn-in
Mike Thomas wrote:
nospam wrote: "Clive" wrote: I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly accurate. That's cos "Clive" is the Tiscali Idiot. That's right -- this groups *other* personality disordered poster. Interestingly "Clive" was [1] a self-proclaimed expert on OLED domination, and with that "knowledge" would have known the difference ... [1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september. The Eternal Tiscali Idiot ... -- Adrian C |
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Adrian C wrote:
Mike Thomas wrote: [1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september. seems probably not :-( -- Adrian C |
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It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing is going to be a genuinely LED TV. I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on the market. Not to mention the cheap FM radios with numerical frequency displays marketed as digital radio. Available in all fancy goods stores. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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"Adrian C" wrote in message ... Mike Thomas wrote: nospam wrote: "Clive" wrote: I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly accurate. That's cos "Clive" is the Tiscali Idiot. That's right -- this groups *other* personality disordered poster. Interestingly "Clive" was [1] a self-proclaimed expert on OLED domination, and with that "knowledge" would have known the difference ... [1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september. The Eternal Tiscali Idiot ... It's funny how there are always misfits, coming and going. The vast majority of people act normally, but the odd one causes all sorts of trouble, or tries to. I suppose newsgroup people are like custormers. I've always said that 99% of people are sane and reasonable . . . but that leaves the other 1% of course. With customers the trick is to sniff out the nutters early, and disengage. With newsgroup people there's no need to sniff them out early, but once they are revealed in their true colours I suppose the best thing is to ignore them. Bill |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Clive wrote: I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma. Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than LCD and way better than Plasma. Err, the Samsung 'LED' set is still an LCD. And the pictures aren't universally 'better' than other LCD displays. -- *The first rule of holes: If you are in one, stop digging! Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. I wonder if the LED source will remain a truer colour for longer than a fluorescent / cold cathode or whatever? |
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Mike Henry wrote:
Is that before or after OLED (genuine question)? I've been holding out for OLED but then I read about LASER TVs with their much wider gamuts. I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. _Then_ I'll see what is out there! Andy |
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On Aug 5, 8:51*pm, Andy Champ wrote:
Mike Henry wrote: Is that before or after OLED (genuine question)? I've been holding out for OLED but then I read about LASER TVs with their much wider gamuts. I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. *_Then_ I'll see what is out there! Andy My CRT died. I got a Plasma and i'm really happy with it. |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
In article ,
Mike wrote: I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. _Then_ I'll see what is out there! Andy My CRT died. I got a Plasma and i'm really happy with it. My CRT hasn't died, but it's going to a good home. Following the purchase of a flat screen in order to release more space in my living room, the CRT is on Ebay. Astonishingly, bidding started on the first day (even more astonishingly than the fact that bidding started at all actually), so I know I'm going to get more than my advertising costs, and I won't have to suffer the near-physical distress of discarding a perfectly good working telly as rubbish. The only thing that bothers me about the flat screen is that the picture is a fraction of a second behind the sound unless I use the grotty built-in loudspeakers. The delayed audio doesn't seem to be brought out to any external connectors, so I've had to make another purchase of an external audio delay to correct it again. Rod. -- Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/ |
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In message en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart writes In article , Mike wrote: I'm just holding out until my CRT dies. _Then_ I'll see what is out there! Andy My CRT died. I got a Plasma and i'm really happy with it. My CRT hasn't died, but it's going to a good home. Following the purchase of a flat screen in order to release more space in my living room, the CRT is on Ebay. Astonishingly, bidding started on the first day (even more astonishingly than the fact that bidding started at all actually), so I know I'm going to get more than my advertising costs, and I won't have to suffer the near-physical distress of discarding a perfectly good working telly as rubbish. Good man. I have to confess that, at the insistence of my wife, I eventually took a more-or-less perfectly-well-working [1] Sony to the local dump / recycling centre. [1] On pressing the mains on/off button, it very occasionally didn't start up correctly, and required a re-press. The only thing that bothers me about the flat screen is that the picture is a fraction of a second behind the sound unless I use the grotty built-in loudspeakers. The delayed audio doesn't seem to be brought out to any external connectors, so I've had to make another purchase of an external audio delay to correct it again. That's a bad design. If that is a known 'feature', in the set-up menu, I would have expected there to be some on-board adjustment. Care to name and shame? -- Ian |
Plasma TVs and burn-in
In article , Ian Jackson wrote:
The only thing that bothers me about the flat screen is that the picture is a fraction of a second behind the sound unless I use the grotty built-in loudspeakers. The delayed audio doesn't seem to be brought out to any external connectors, so I've had to make another purchase of an external audio delay to correct it again. That's a bad design. If that is a known 'feature', in the set-up menu, I would have expected there to be some on-board adjustment. Care to name and shame? It's one of the new 7000 series Samsung LED-illuminated TVs. It cost an obscene amount of money but looks beautiful on the wall and makes my living room seem twice the size thanks to the absence of the CRT on its floor stand. I expect it to last me a very long time. Currently showing RGB external sourced via SCART as a straight replacement for the CRT, it can apparently also show HD, should I ever decide there are any movies that are worth purchasing a blu-ray player for. As well as the audio ouput from the SCART, there is an optical digital output, but I haven't got anything that can use it so don't know whether this is delayed or undelayed. It baffles me why they would think anyone would want an out of sync audio feed at all. I can deal with this, but it seems daft to have to buy an external delay unit when the necessary electronics is built in, but inaccessible. I don't know if this is the standard arrangement or is special to this TV. Rod. -- Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/ |
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Bob Latham wrote:
My Sony CRT died. I got a Sony LCD (oh the shame of it) But I'm really happy with it and prefer it to the CRT. I'm sure I'd prefer a nice big flat set, which the BBC wouldn't insist on feeding cropped pictures. Whether I'd prefer it enough to justify the cost is another matter. And if I wait 'til the last moment I won't feel _quite_ as bad over the new technology that makes my new TV obsolete the next month. :) Andy |
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Alan Pemberton wrote:
The BBC sends cropped pictures? How so? Do you mean in the sense of cropping 21:9-ish films to 16:9, etc? Most 4:3 originals are cropped top-and-bottom to 14:9 for analogue and 16:9 for DTV transmission. I suspect the 14:9 is the middle 14 of the 16, so it's cropped both ways. Andy |
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