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Andy Champ[_2_] July 21st 09 08:36 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Roderick Stewart wrote:
In article , The dog from that film
you saw wrote:
you've fallen for the marketing hype then - the current so called LED
televisions are actually still LCD televisions - it's the light source
that's LED only.


It's not marketing hype to say that LED screens are thinner, lighter and
consume less electrical power. A quick examination of the facts will
reveal all these things to be true.

As for what to call them, the light source is the thing that is notably
different about them, and "LED display" is less of a mouthfull than "LCD
display with LED backlight.


It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.

It's about as much an LED TV as a hovercraft is an aircraft. Yes,
technically it flies, but let me see you get it over that hill.

Andy

Mike Thomas[_3_] July 21st 09 09:36 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Mike Henry wrote:

Andy Champ wrote:
... Next Big Thing is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


Is that before or after OLED (genuine question)? I've been holding out for
OLED but then I read about LASER TVs with their much wider gamuts.


He probably did mean OLEDs. Next big thing in about 4 years, that is, which
is the estimated time (that I read somewhere) for OLEDs to become
competitive with LCDs. Edge-LED backlit TVs look to be very good though,
from what I've seen in the showrooms, with the panels being very thin and
running cool.

The commentary for Eurovision earlier this year said that a very high
percentage of the entire world's stock of LED TV's were used ...
ah, more details here
http://www.martin.com/product/produc...oduct=lcseries


Ah indeed. A 4 CENTImetre pixel pitch. Presumably built with discrete LEDs.


Graham.[_2_] July 21st 09 10:02 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 


"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om...
If you talk to a bbc engineer, you will soon be told Plasma ar junk as
burn in can be evident within months.

I also hate plasma because they chuck out horendous amounts of radio
frequency interference which is very hard to get rid of if you like using
ordinary radios on telescopic aerials. They also of course eat the juice
from your electricity supplier.

Maybe he can get some fancy screensaver on his new plasma that moves his
wildlife camers around th screen to stop buren in?
I'm just glad I can no longe see these shadowy marks. It was bad enough in
the old days of crts.

Brian

It's actually quite difficult to burn a colour CRT TV (when used as a TV).

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



The dog from that film you saw July 21st 09 11:36 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

"Mike Henry" wrote in message

The commentary for Eurovision earlier this year said that a very high
percentage of the entire world's stock of LED TV's were used to make the
set. I presume these were real LEDs (Next Big Thing) rather than LCDs with
LED backlights. They looked very impressive indeed, the white coming out
of them was unbelievably bright!





they were the real deal - but they also had jumbo sized pixels - you would
want one of those in your living room.
you can see such screens at some train stations and public spaces - the one
in birmingham new street is wasted showing sky news.



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


Roderick Stewart[_2_] July 22nd 09 06:35 AM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article , Andy Champ
wrote:
It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


What would you call them instead?

And how widely known is it, really, what the Next Big Thing is going to be?
Flat panel TV sets were the Next Big Thing from the day I joined the
broadcast industry in the 1960s, but didn't appear in the shops in
meaningful numbers at sensible prices until I left it a few years ago. So
I'm not holding my breath for the next Next Big Thing, whatever it may be.

Rod.
--
Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/


Richard Tobin July 23rd 09 07:30 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:
It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold
as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on
the market.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

Peter Duncanson July 23rd 09 08:11 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
On 23 Jul 2009 17:30:59 GMT, (Richard Tobin)
wrote:

In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:
It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold
as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on
the market.

I have a pair of headphones that I still use after buying them early in
the CD era.

This perfectly ordinary headphone set is labelled "CD Laser Digital".

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

Adrian C July 23rd 09 09:45 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Mike Thomas wrote:
nospam wrote:

"Clive" wrote:
I wouldn't bother with power hungry and OLD technology such as Plasma.
Tell your mate to get a new LED Samsung TV. Pictures are far better than
LCD and way better than Plasma.

Samsung 'LED' TVs are LCD. The rest of your comments are similarly
accurate.


That's cos "Clive" is the Tiscali Idiot. That's right -- this groups
*other* personality disordered poster.


Interestingly "Clive" was [1] a self-proclaimed expert on OLED
domination, and with that "knowledge" would have known the difference ...

[1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september.

The Eternal Tiscali Idiot ...

--
Adrian C

Adrian C July 23rd 09 10:29 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 
Adrian C wrote:
Mike Thomas wrote:


[1] Has today morphed into "T Williams" posting from eternal-september.


seems probably not :-(

--
Adrian C

Graham.[_2_] July 23rd 09 11:10 PM

Plasma TVs and burn-in
 

It's marketing hype to come out with a TV which is an LCD with an LED
backlight and call it LED when it's widely known that the Next Big Thing
is going to be a genuinely LED TV.


I am reminded of seeing small turntable-baed "hi-fi" systems being sold
as "Compact Disk Systems" at just the time that CDs were coming on
the market.


Not to mention the cheap FM radios with numerical frequency displays
marketed as digital radio. Available in all fancy goods stores.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%




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