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Java Jive July 17th 09 10:33 PM

Tories propose 80 local TV stations
 
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:54:21 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

And at the same time so called 'lowbrow' ITV programming such as:-

Brideshead Revisited
Jewel In The Crown
Rumpole
Morse
Weekend World
World in Action
This Week
A Fine Romance
The Prisoner (just the sort of experimental risk taking programming
people say only the Beeb were capable of)


AFAICR, most of these, at least those which aren't current affairs,
are from a later period than the one I was referring to.

Can anyone name anything from the 60s/70s from the Beeb that was even
half as stylish


Stylish? Are you sure you don't you mean absurdly unrealistic?

as the Avengers, or half as realistically 'gritty' as
the Thames/Euston Films stuff such as Fox, Out, or Minder ?


Again, later productions, IIRC.

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Ivan[_2_] July 17th 09 10:40 PM

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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:21:41 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:


The Phil Silvers show


Yes, that was undeniable crap, but wasn't that later? I can remember
being exasperated with a girlfriend wanting to watch that and Dallas,
which would put it around 1980.


1955 to 1959, I loved it, I think it still stands the test of time far
better better than the majority of even much later British comedy offerings,
and at least it was filmed in 35mm black and white, which still looks vastly
superior to anything the skinflint BBC used as a recording medium at the
time.


Java Jive July 17th 09 11:30 PM

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That may be when it was first filmed, but when was it actually first
shown on British TV?

I certainly remember C liking it, though I suppose it may have been
repeats. (As a girlfriend she was near perfect with only 2 flaws: her
taste in TV, and she b*ggered off - bit of a show stopper, that last
one.)

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:40:36 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:

1955 to 1959, I loved it, I think it still stands the test of time far
better better than the majority of even much later British comedy offerings,
and at least it was filmed in 35mm black and white, which still looks vastly
superior to anything the skinflint BBC used as a recording medium at the
time.


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Java Jive July 17th 09 11:38 PM

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:26:49 GMT, "Sheila"
wrote:

Saturday night on the BBC in the early sixties was the biggest load of tat
imaginable:


It was presumed that everyone was out.

Dixon of Dock Green
The Billy Cotton Band Show


Already answered those.

The Black and White Minstrel Show


It was not a very good show, and now we think of it as being even
worse because of the implicit racism, but by the standards of the
times it wasn't that bad, about on a par with Billy Cotton, I'd say.

Not only did they play to the lowest common denominator


No, that definitely came later.

they also
reflected the cosy inward-looking England so fond of some on this group. An
England, incidentally, that never existed.


As I'm not aware of any 'cosy inward-looking England' referred to, I
can't agree with this. However, I can point out that it appears to be
not far off a contradiction with playing 'to the lowest common
denominator'!

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Ivan[_2_] July 17th 09 11:39 PM

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"Java Jive" wrote in message
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That may be when it was first filmed, but when was it actually first
shown on British TV?


"It was first screened by the BBC in 1957, and the British audience fell in
love with the rascally Motor Pool Sergeant. The show has featured regularly
in their schedules ever since. It is without exception the only black-and
white-comedy series from the 50's to have truly stood the test of time."

http://www.bpsas.co.uk/50th_anniversary.html.





Java Jive July 17th 09 11:49 PM

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I've recently been contacted by someone writing a biography of my
stepfather (a GC and a prof), which has brought to mind that he and my
mother met through dancing, so perhaps that makes it 'highbrow'?

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:21:41 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:

Come dancing..


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Mark Carver July 18th 09 12:08 AM

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Java Jive wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:54:21 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:


Can anyone name anything from the 60s/70s from the Beeb that was even
half as stylish


Stylish? Are you sure you don't you mean absurdly unrealistic?


You snipped the all important word from my post, the Avengers. Yes, it was
total fantasy, so what ? It was brilliantly produced, and as Dave P says
superbly camp.

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Dave Plowman (News) July 18th 09 12:49 AM

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In article ,
Java Jive wrote:
and The Billy Cotton Band Show 'highbrow'?


It's perhaps not 'highbrow', but I wouldn't call it 'lowbrow' either.
Somewhere in between.


Basically music hall - entertainment for the lower classes.

--
*Time is the best teacher; unfortunately it kills all its students.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) July 18th 09 12:54 AM

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In article ,
Ivan wrote:
The Phil Silvers show


Yes, that was undeniable crap, but wasn't that later? I can remember
being exasperated with a girlfriend wanting to watch that and Dallas,
which would put it around 1980.


1955 to 1959, I loved it, I think it still stands the test of time far
better better than the majority of even much later British comedy
offerings, and at least it was filmed in 35mm black and white, which
still looks vastly superior to anything the skinflint BBC used as a
recording medium at the time.


Mainly because US shows were made by film studio offshoots - and had
pretty well guaranteed worlwide sales.

But I agree with you - nothing wrong with Sergeant Bilko and his pals.

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*Before they invented drawing boards, what did they go back to?

Dave Plowman London SW
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Bill Wright July 18th 09 01:03 AM

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"Sheila" wrote in message
om...

Saturday night on the BBC in the early sixties was the biggest load of tat
imaginable:

Dixon of Dock Green
The Billy Cotton Band Show
The Black and White Minstrel Show

Not only did they play to the lowest common denominator - they also
reflected the cosy inward-looking England so fond of some on this group.
An England, incidentally, that never existed.

Sheila


Three very good programmes in my opinion.

And if we'd been a bit more inward looking for the last forty years we would
have all these immigrants and their high birth rates, and we wouldn't be
building houses all over our green belts.

Bill




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