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Why do we need plus 1 channels?
Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back
methinks. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
Bet they wouldn't.
Bet they would get more shopping channels. Vanya. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ These plus 1 hours channels are very handy if you use them right, you can see shows in row that you like without miss out. BUT I would add that if Viginmedia and FreeSat can put most plus 1 ( +1 ) after they real-time channels on the EPG, Why b$kyb has such messy EPG.with all plus channels all over the place, they have all the share holders & bankers money? It would also be handy on DTT to have plus channels in line to help. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian And the countless regional "variations" (which most of the time are duplications) -- Graham. %Profound_observation%____________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________ |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:31:47 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Bet they wouldn't. Bet they would get more shopping channels. I found the +1s to be quite useful. The watershed means that quite often there are 4 things I want to watch all on at 21:00, and I can only record 2 things simultaneously... -- Free personal divertable Phone number: http://www.bizorg.co.uk/personalnos.htm |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
I think the loss of the local program variations was a scandal, merely done
to maximize profits from advertising. The sad fact is that advert supported anything is soon going to be so discredited as a model that most oddball channels, free websites etc, will fold anyway. Its a huge con trick. people are now so sophisticated that adverts really do not get folk to buy things, save maybe the very young. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Graham." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian And the countless regional "variations" (which most of the time are duplications) -- Graham. %Profound_observation%____________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________ |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
Brian Gaff wrote:
That is possible, but its still a waste and one we have apparently not got the bandwidth to support. After all, not all channels have this extra channel anyway. With the advent of getting your stuff of the web, and the reducing costs of pvrs, what is the point really? I suspect it's channel squatting, ie the broadcast equivalent of domain name squatting. The major companies bought up the frequencies in a panic when they were offered, thinking they had to have them. Then they found they hadn't anything to put on them but feared the regulator might remove them if they didn't, and so came up with the wizard wheeze of showing everything again, totally pointlessly, one hour later. Does anyone know the viewing figures for the +1 channels I wonder? |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m... Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian +1 are so the TV Co can fit in more adverts, the purpose of a TV program isn't to entertain or provide a service, it's to support, and fill in time between the adverts +1 doubles advertising time Steve Terry |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
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Brian Gaff wrote: I think the loss of the local program variations was a scandal, merely done to maximize profits from advertising. Err, local progs cost to make and there simply isn't the income from ads for them anymore. 'Maximizing profits' suggests profits are still being made. The sad fact is that advert supported anything is soon going to be so discredited as a model that most oddball channels, free websites etc, will fold anyway. Its a huge con trick. people are now so sophisticated that adverts really do not get folk to buy things, save maybe the very young. How are you going to find out about products without advertising? Pay to visit a site which displays them? -- *Black holes are where God divided by zero * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
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Steve Terry wrote: +1 doubles advertising time Which is fine if the main channel is fully booked. But non of them are these days. -- *Go the extra mile. It makes your boss look like an incompetent slacker * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
On Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009 at 10:49:53h +0100, Steve Terry wrote:
+1 are so the TV Co can fit in more adverts, the purpose of a TV program isn't to entertain or provide a service, it's to support, and fill in time between the adverts Yes, most people think that TV programs are the product of commercial adverted funded television companies, whereas in fact they are merely a biproduct. The product which these companies sell is the audience and the customers are the advertising agencies. If the company does not have the ratings (audience of demographics desired by the advertising agencies) then there is no product to sell and the company will fail. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Steve Terry wrote: +1 doubles advertising time Which is fine if the main channel is fully booked. But non of them are these days. Increasing amounts of so called public information films paid for by the taxpayer fill the gaps and i still don't know who the hell Frank is, or why i should call him? Steve Terry |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
In article ,
Steve Terry wrote: Which is fine if the main channel is fully booked. But non of them are these days. Increasing amounts of so called public information films paid for by the taxpayer fill the gaps Not unlimited gaps, though. On 5 US they use trailers - and something more akin to the potter's wheel. ;-) and i still don't know who the hell Frank is, or why i should call him? The power of advertising, then. -- *A day without sunshine is like... night.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:20:41 +0100, "Steve Terry"
wrote: Increasing amounts of so called public information films paid for by the taxpayer fill the gaps and i still don't know who the hell Frank is, or why i should call him? I think that's the point. If the target audience did know who, or more accurately what, Frank is they wouldn't ask him about anything. -- Martin Jay |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
"Martin Jay" wrote in message
... On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:20:41 +0100, "Steve Terry" wrote: Increasing amounts of so called public information films paid for by the taxpayer fill the gaps and i still don't know who the hell Frank is, or why i should call him? I think that's the point. If the target audience did know who, or more accurately what, Frank is they wouldn't ask him about anything. Martin Jay Nope, I'm sure the point is to feed taxpayers money to 3rd rate commercial agencies Steve Terry |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
Martin Jay wrote:
If the target audience did know who, or more accurately what, Frank is they wouldn't ask him about anything. Alternatively ... spend £1/4m on a mobile phone advert for safe sex, when someone discovers from a FoI request that it only got 5500 views, and therefore cost £45 per view, claim those 5500 views actually exceeded your target! So they actually expected to pay more than £45/viewer? Unbelievable! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8074914.stm |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
Brian Gaff wrote:
Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian I think it was a way of trying to supress PVR sales. Broadcasters hate them rightly or wrongly, but if they properly integrated into PVRs the whole experience could be so much better. They are too busy trying to make 'value added' services that they totally forget what their customer want, or maybe its just that the customer are the advertisers not the consumers. On the advertising front, the free model is breaking down now that advertising revenue is dropping. That maybe a result of the recession cycles, but I also have alot of worries about lack of added value in the world and increasing 'cost' of living. I do hope we have become immune to advertising, but its probably just a fantasy. AFAIAC advertising is all a lie, they are using our psychology against us, not to inform us about their product and its special features, but to make us buy it. It doesn't create any extra wealth, expect for those well paid Marketing Exec's, or help consumer chose the correct products. Its all 'buy this product and you will be happy' messages, or 'buy this its cheaper really take it now while you can'. Its just tries to prevent you spending money on other things, there is no extra money, and credit only causes the boom/bust cycles, the more the bigger. More and more jobs in the world are not adding value to society and it seems the less value you add the more money you get to take. We do all seem to enjoy taking part in lifestyle/fashion products of the day, ipods or the lastest mobile phone, but do we need them?..NO Do they make us happy?..NO Will important stuff like food, energy and raw materials get more expensive?..YES, and faster as a result of the above advertising. At the end of the day if you are a business you look after you customer, if you are an advertiser on a web newspaper, you do not expect the newspaper to discredit your industry or make things more difficult for you, hence the newpaper articles cease to become independent and become biased to the needs of the advertisers. It is time people realised that when you click on an advert you are giving away something for free that is valuable (your choice and eventual money) in return for something you have no choice over. As accountants say 'there is no such thing as a free lunch'. But this is todays general business model to try to trick people into parting with their money or trick them into thinking they are getting good VFM, it is the stupid taking advantage of the more stupid. Just like house prices and endless credit, the advertising funded 'free' model stinks and will be the next thing against the wall when the revolution comes. ....ooh I didn't expect all that to come out..oh well Anyway with the Internet the options for a replacement for marketing and advertising are endless, but I fear it will never come because there is too much money to be diverted. -- Tony |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
Hear about the Irish version?
-1 channels so everything starts an hour earlier than on the main channel.. Hides behind cactus to avoid tomatoes. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Brian Gaff wrote: That is possible, but its still a waste and one we have apparently not got the bandwidth to support. After all, not all channels have this extra channel anyway. With the advent of getting your stuff of the web, and the reducing costs of pvrs, what is the point really? I suspect it's channel squatting, ie the broadcast equivalent of domain name squatting. The major companies bought up the frequencies in a panic when they were offered, thinking they had to have them. Then they found they hadn't anything to put on them but feared the regulator might remove them if they didn't, and so came up with the wizard wheeze of showing everything again, totally pointlessly, one hour later. Does anyone know the viewing figures for the +1 channels I wonder? |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om... Hear about the Irish version? -1 channels so everything starts an hour earlier than on the main channel.. Hides behind cactus to avoid tomatoes. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "Norman Wells" wrote in message ... Brian Gaff wrote: That is possible, but its still a waste and one we have apparently not got the bandwidth to support. After all, not all channels have this extra channel anyway. With the advent of getting your stuff of the web, and the reducing costs of pvrs, what is the point really? I suspect it's channel squatting, ie the broadcast equivalent of domain name squatting. The major companies bought up the frequencies in a panic when they were offered, thinking they had to have them. Then they found they hadn't anything to put on them but feared the regulator might remove them if they didn't, and so came up with the wizard wheeze of showing everything again, totally pointlessly, one hour later. Does anyone know the viewing figures for the +1 channels I wonder? No no Brian. It's the Irish video recorder. It records what you don't want to watch and plays it back whilst you're out. (The old ones are the best........) -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
Brian Gaff wrote:
Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian Well, on a few occasions I have looked at a guide and found I'd missed the start of a programme, then realised I could time-travel. It's not as if there's a lot of good content waiting for space for a first showing. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Brian Gaff" saying something like: Hear about the Irish version? -1 channels so everything starts an hour earlier than on the main channel.. That'd be a bloody good idea, given RTE's inability to start any programme on time. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Burns saying something like: Alternatively ... spend £1/4m on a mobile phone advert for safe sex, when someone discovers from a FoI request that it only got 5500 views, and therefore cost £45 per view, claim those 5500 views actually exceeded your target! So they actually expected to pay more than £45/viewer? Unbelievable! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8074914.stm Been cheaper if they'd given each viewer a mobile to shove up their gash. |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
On 1 June, 21:44, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. *graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ _________________________*________________________ ___________ it is handy if you miss your program and you can then watch it an hour later, not all of us have sky plus boxes or v plus boxes where we can record a program. saves waiting on the repeat being shown when it happens kim |
Why do we need plus 1 channels?
K said the following on 09/06/2009 14:39:
On 1 June, 21:44, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Without them a lot of the moaners on here could get their definition back methinks. Brian Remember! With digital tv channels it's about quantity not quality. |
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