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We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture
on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? |
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"Angela" wrote in message om... We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? I have an LED clock bought in 1978. There is a loose contact somewhere, but all the LED segments still work. I have a Casio pocket TV bought in the 90's, which has one red pixel hard on (fine for everything except cricker replays at the match). LCD's are actually a more recent technology and early LCD panels used to fade and leak internally, however post 1985 they have been much better. OLED's are new and MTBF and burn out are a little unknown. Plasma panels fade to 50% brightness after about ten years use. Generally speaking LED's are very reliable with MTBF's at 100k hours plus. OTOH with six million in a screen the standard deviation from this could be significant. IMHO there is no reason not to buy an LED panels and the results are better. You can probably get a cheaper result buying from Richer Sounds and buying their add on five guarantee backed by Domestic and General. |
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Angela wrote:
: We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture : on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just : incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an : equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided : in case it turns out to be problematic? A LED-TV is, of course, an LCD one with a LED-backlight. This means that different areas of the screen can be backlit differently - and this helps to solve the inherent problems of limited contrast ratio and poor black levels that all LCD TVs have to some extent Most major manufacturers are starting to use LED technology - and at a premium price. I would look for this if I was buying now - and the Samsung is also impressively thin! |
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"Angela" wrote in message om... We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture - example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow around it where the led's light is coming through. you could counter this by saying that with a regular lcd tv, the whole of the black sky would be illuminated and grey. whether you prefer the localised glow or the whole screen glow is up to your eyes. if they ever get around to having 1900x1080 leds to match the number of onscreen pixels then presumably the problem will be solved. and naturally, as it's new technology you can bet the price premium between led illuminated sets and non led ones will decrease over the next couple of years. -- Gareth. that fly...... is your magic wand.... |
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"Angela" wrote in message om... We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? there is never a good time............sorta like computers. The only thing I would suggest is get one with FOXSAT built in for the current and future HD transmissions. |
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"Angela" wrote in message om... We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? Screen burn from DOGs. LCD is more immune than OLED, or are your referring to LED backlit screens? |
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, "Angela" wrote:
We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? Does it really matter if it's an inch thinner? If flat-screen technology hadn't come along, you'd be happily and proudly showing off a very bulky large-screen CRT model :-) Any other reasons you prefer to pay more than for a LCD? I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". |
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, "Angela" wrote: We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? Does it really matter if it's an inch thinner? If flat-screen technology hadn't come along, you'd be happily and proudly showing off a very bulky large-screen CRT model :-) Any other reasons you prefer to pay more than for a LCD? I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". I purchased my Tosh for £900 when JL wanted £1300 with their 3 year warranty for the same model. So is it worth £400 for the extra 2 years....I concluded not with the ever reducing costs to replace it. |
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Brian Mc wrote: Angela wrote: : We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the : picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the : thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does : cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early : days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be : problematic? A LED-TV is, of course, an LCD one with a LED-backlight. This means that different areas of the screen can be backlit differently - and this helps to solve the inherent problems of limited contrast ratio and poor black levels that all LCD TVs have to some extent Most major manufacturers are starting to use LED technology - and at a premium price. I would look for this if I was buying now - and the Samsung is also impressively thin! I haven't seen one, but there is some controversy over how continuous a spectrum the LEDs can produce to give all the shades needed. Some have said the flesh tones aren't as good as a conventionally lit LCD. -- *Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , Tom E
wrote The only thing I would suggest is get one with FOXSAT built in for the current and future HD transmissions. Foxsat? Don't you mean Freesat? But why pay an extra premium for a facility that can be easily added with an external box? Freesat has little HD content (one part time BBC channel and bugger all from ITV). A Sky box or a future Freeview box will/may provide better HD coverage. As for John Lewis's 5 year cover - it's not free, it's built into the higher selling price! -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Laurence Payne wrote: I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some others. -- *I went to school to become a wit, only got halfway through. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , Tom E wrote The only thing I would suggest is get one with FOXSAT built in for the current and future HD transmissions. Foxsat? Don't you mean Freesat? But why pay an extra premium for a facility that can be easily added with an external box? Freesat has little HD content (one part time BBC channel and bugger all from ITV). A Sky box or a future Freeview box will/may provide better HD coverage. As for John Lewis's 5 year cover - it's not free, it's built into the higher selling price! -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk I did mean Freesat and the cup final is in HD today :-) which I shall be enjoying. HD has little content at the moment but things change. Also what is there at this time is good quality....well for me anyway. Someone just might not want that external box and it's good to know they can be purchased as a combined unit.....IMHO. |
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"R. Mark Clayton" wrote:
"Angela" wrote in message om... We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it? I have an LED clock bought in 1978. There is a loose contact somewhere, but all the LED segments still work. I have a Casio pocket TV bought in the 90's, which has one red pixel hard on (fine for everything except cricker replays at the match). LCD's are actually a more recent technology and early LCD panels used to fade and leak internally, however post 1985 they have been much better. OLED's are new and MTBF and burn out are a little unknown. Plasma panels fade to 50% brightness after about ten years use. Generally speaking LED's are very reliable with MTBF's at 100k hours plus. OTOH with six million in a screen the standard deviation from this could be significant. IMHO there is no reason not to buy an LED panels and the results are better. You can probably get a cheaper result buying from Richer Sounds and buying their add on five guarantee backed by Domestic and General. OMG too many LED LCD OTOH IMHO :O)) -- Paul (We won't die of devotion) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/ |
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, Angela wrote:
We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Best to wait until the end of the year when TV with DVB-t2 tuners will start to become available. |
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message ...
Does it really matter if it's an inch thinner? I'm inclined to agree. The difference between a TV that's two feet deep and three or four inches is significant and can make a big difference to your lounge [1] but going from 4 inches to 2 is pretty much irrelevant past the initial "ooh , that's thin" moment. [1] though a lot of people have flat panel TVs on a stand in the corner where it takes up as much room as a CRT -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away" |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ...
In article , Laurence Payne wrote: I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some others. And you can always look for a competitor to price match against. -- Alex "I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away" |
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Laurence Payne wrote: I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some others. And you can always look for a competitor to price match against. IIRC, they won't price match against mail order only places, though. Not surprising given their overheads. -- *Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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J G Miller wrote:
: Best to wait until the end of the year when TV with DVB-t2 tuners : will start to become available. On what possible logic????? They will be expensive to start with and many people do NOT use the built-in Freeview tuner at all (with Sky, Virgin etc.) |
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The dog from that film you saw wrote:
: the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have as : many leds as pixels. : this means that when a part of the picture - example a star on a black sky, : is illuminated, there will be a glow around it where the led's light is : coming through. Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each backlight LED illuminates. I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! |
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Brian Mc wrote: The dog from that film you saw wrote: : the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have : as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture - : example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow : around it where the led's light is coming through. Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each backlight LED illuminates. I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things that make sets look their best in shops. -- *Welcome to **** Creek - sorry, we're out of paddles* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:
On what possible logic????? On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes. many people do NOT use the built-in Freeview tuner at all (with Sky, Virgin etc.) Yes, those people prefer to pay for their television rather than receiving it FREE to air. |
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J G Miller wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote: On what possible logic????? On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes. Yes, it probably will, but based upon 10 years of DVB-T1, first generation DVB-T2 receivers will probably be next to useless by the time T1 is finally ditched. If ITV and C4 do delay their HD DTT services, I doubt the availability of just BBC HD will be compelling enough for the T2 market to survive ? In fact I'm not terribly confident that even Freesat will pull through ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message ... | On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, "Angela" wrote: | | Any other reasons you prefer to pay more than for a LCD? In comparison the picture is much better - go to a showroom and take a look | | I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a | better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". I would be interested to see you to find cheaper than £1,099 with a 5 year extended warranty and free delivery on a saturday for the Samsung UE40B6000? Bet you can't! Cheapest we found online was currys at £999 and the warranty is £8.99 a month - a hefty £539!! And I certainly don't rate Currys as a retailer. Isn't it interesting that so many people think John Lewis is expensive! |
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"J G Miller" wrote in message ... | On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, Angela wrote: | | We need a new TV as ours has finally died. | | Best to wait until the end of the year when TV with DVB-t2 tuners | will start to become available. Can't wait as I have no desire to watch a portable TV for a year to get something I wont even use as we have sky. |
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote In article , Brian Mc wrote: The dog from that film you saw wrote: : the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have : as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture - : example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow : around it where the led's light is coming through. Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each backlight LED illuminates. I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things that make sets look their best in shops. I wouldn't trust anything seen in a TV store as representative of what you get in the box. Out-of-the-box my (traditionally lit backlight) Samsung TV was so badly setup. Everything was over-saturated and too high a contrast - garish colours. The 'shop display' setting that can be selected from the opening menu was even worse! I did find for my TV someone else's calibration settings which toned down the picture to be very usable. http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Settings.htm The setting stores use are for their lighting conditions and not necessarily the same as you would require at home. The content they show on TVs tends to be computer generated animation with limited colour range or HD. They tend not to show SD content which would show the flaws in up-scaling on a large screen. If the Samsung adverts are anything to go by then avoid their LED backlight TVs. There seems to be bright white lighting effects on the edges of living items breaking through the LCD :) http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/l...al_led7000.jpg -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote In article , Brian Mc wrote: The dog from that film you saw wrote: : the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have : as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture - : example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow : around it where the led's light is coming through. Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each backlight LED illuminates. I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things that make sets look their best in shops. I wouldn't trust anything seen in a TV store as representative of what you get in the box. Out-of-the-box my (traditionally lit backlight) Samsung TV was so badly setup. Everything was over-saturated and too high a contrast - garish colours. The 'shop display' setting that can be selected from the opening menu was even worse! I did find for my TV someone else's calibration settings which toned down the picture to be very usable. http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Settings.htm The setting stores use are for their lighting conditions and not necessarily the same as you would require at home. The content they show on TVs tends to be computer generated animation with limited colour range or HD. They tend not to show SD content which would show the flaws in up-scaling on a large screen. If the Samsung adverts are anything to go by then avoid their LED backlight TVs. There seems to be bright white lighting effects on the edges of living items breaking through the LCD :) http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/l...al_led7000.jpg I hear the next model will have a white-spot suppression knob on the back ;-) -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus In article , Brian Mc wrote: The dog from that film you saw wrote: : the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have : as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture - : example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow : around it where the led's light is coming through. Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each backlight LED illuminates. I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things that make sets look their best in shops. Other way round guv!.. most all the ones I've seen in Vomit and such are **** poor !.. OTOH if and when we decide to buy one we'll go to richer sounds where they do give a **** what their displays look like;). Least they do round here... -- Tony Sayer |
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scribeth thus "Alan" wrote in message ... In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote In article , Brian Mc wrote: The dog from that film you saw wrote: : the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have : as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture - : example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow : around it where the led's light is coming through. Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each backlight LED illuminates. I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things that make sets look their best in shops. I wouldn't trust anything seen in a TV store as representative of what you get in the box. Out-of-the-box my (traditionally lit backlight) Samsung TV was so badly setup. Everything was over-saturated and too high a contrast - garish colours. The 'shop display' setting that can be selected from the opening menu was even worse! I did find for my TV someone else's calibration settings which toned down the picture to be very usable. http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Settings.htm The setting stores use are for their lighting conditions and not necessarily the same as you would require at home. The content they show on TVs tends to be computer generated animation with limited colour range or HD. They tend not to show SD content which would show the flaws in up-scaling on a large screen. If the Samsung adverts are anything to go by then avoid their LED backlight TVs. There seems to be bright white lighting effects on the edges of living items breaking through the LCD :) http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/l...al_led7000.jpg I hear the next model will have a white-spot suppression knob on the back ;-) LOL!... Showing yer age there M8!... -- Tony Sayer |
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J G Miller wrote:
: On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote: : On what possible logic????? : On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes. There are no plans for this! However DVB-T2 receivers will also receive DVB-T If I was buying a TV I would not wait for DVT-T2 IDTVs for the following reasons:- 1) They may not come as soon as you think 2) Only the most expensive TVs are likely to have it built-in when it does. 3) Many areas won't bbe able to use it's HD reception until 2012 (partly leading to (2)) 4) ITV and C4 are going lukewarm on DTT HD. : many people do NOT use the built-in Freeview tuner at all (with Sky, : Virgin etc.) : Yes, those people prefer to pay for their television rather than receiving : it FREE to air. |
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 21:34:47 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:
There are no plans for this! Just because there are currently no plans for this to happen, does not mean that it will not happen. When DVB-t was introduced, there were no plans to switch off the analog transmissions. 2) Only the most expensive TVs are likely to have it built-in when it does. Do only the most expensive TVs have MPEG-4 encoders built in? 4) ITV and C4 are going lukewarm on DTT HD. Because they are trying to get a free handout. |
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J G Miller wrote:
4) ITV and C4 are going lukewarm on DTT HD. Because they are trying to get a free handout. No, because they can't see a business case currently. ITV have just closed this month their future technology dept, so there's another negative factor. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. www.paras.org.uk |
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:21:33 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote: I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some others. And you can always look for a competitor to price match against. JL have been known to play a game where they get the manufacturer to put a label on with a slightly different model number. Then they can claim no-one else stocks QUITE the same item. They also make great play of their guarantee. As no-one else sells QUITE the same package, they can wriggle out of price-matching. I'm afraid they sell into the market which thinks paying more gets you something better. That just ain't true with consumer toys these days. |
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 16:33:56 +0100, "Angela" wrote:
"Laurence Payne" wrote in message .. . | On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, "Angela" wrote: | | Any other reasons you prefer to pay more than for a LCD? In comparison the picture is much better - go to a showroom and take a look | | I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a | better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free". I would be interested to see you to find cheaper than £1,099 with a 5 year extended warranty and free delivery on a saturday for the Samsung UE40B6000? Bet you can't! Cheapest we found online was currys at £999 and the warranty is £8.99 a month - a hefty £539!! And I certainly don't rate Currys as a retailer. Isn't it interesting that so many people think John Lewis is expensive! OK. You've decided what toy you want :-) Go enjoy it. |
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In article ,
tony sayer wrote: I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things that make sets look their best in shops. Other way round guv!.. most all the ones I've seen in Vomit and such are **** poor !.. In general maybe - unless they are pushing one brand. OTOH if and when we decide to buy one we'll go to richer sounds where they do give a **** what their displays look like;). Least they do round here... -- *He's not dead - he's electroencephalographically challenged Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus In article , tony sayer wrote: I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive! You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things that make sets look their best in shops. Other way round guv!.. most all the ones I've seen in Vomit and such are **** poor !.. In general maybe - unless they are pushing one brand. No David there're just clueless about the subject.. But Joe public has bought it on himself by wanting any and everything for as cheap as possible and the best deal around so something has to suffer... -- Tony Sayer |
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In article , Mark Carver
scribeth thus J G Miller wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote: On what possible logic????? On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes. Yes, it probably will, but based upon 10 years of DVB-T1, first generation DVB-T2 receivers will probably be next to useless by the time T1 is finally ditched. If ITV and C4 do delay their HD DTT services, I doubt the availability of just BBC HD will be compelling enough for the T2 market to survive ? In fact I'm not terribly confident that even Freesat will pull through ? Which is a shame as Satellite has a lot more going for it than just the Sky TV its seen as. We use a Dreambox here for the main TV and a few satellite receiver cards in PC's. All of which work fine receiving several sats of a diseq system, and don't have the complete programme guide but theres always the net for that if needed.. Its a very good way to distribute TV in very high quality to the nation in just the one hit, bags of bandwidth albeit a lot of it wasted on absolute junk TV but its the natural home for HD TV... -- Tony Sayer |
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In message , tony sayer
wrote But Joe public has bought it on himself by wanting any and everything for as cheap as possible and the best deal around so something has to suffer... But the companies selling at top price are no better! And if you take the top end Hi-Fi market as an example then the technical advice is likely to be complete B******t. -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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J G Miller wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote: On what possible logic????? On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes. Yes, it probably will, but based upon 10 years of DVB-T1, first generation DVB-T2 receivers will probably be next to useless by the time T1 is finally ditched. If ITV and C4 do delay their HD DTT services, I doubt the availability of just BBC HD will be compelling enough for the T2 market to survive ? In fact I'm not terribly confident that even Freesat will pull through ? Which is a shame as Satellite has a lot more going for it than just the Sky TV its seen as. We use a Dreambox here for the main TV and a few satellite receiver cards in PC's. All of which work fine receiving several sats of a diseq system, and don't have the complete programme guide but theres always the net for that if needed.. Its a very good way to distribute TV in very high quality to the nation in just the one hit, bags of bandwidth albeit a lot of it wasted on absolute junk TV but its the natural home for HD TV... Not to mention all those regional variations which are really duplications for most of the time. Are the British unique with this bandwidth hungry model? -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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In article , Alan
scribeth thus In message , tony sayer wrote But Joe public has bought it on himself by wanting any and everything for as cheap as possible and the best deal around so something has to suffer... But the companies selling at top price are no better! And if you take the top end Hi-Fi market as an example then the technical advice is likely to be complete B******t. Well the few times I've been into the local richer sounds for odd's and sods they've been what I'd consider as quite keen on what there're selling and knowledgeable unlike the muppets in the white good's sheds.. As to upper end hi-fly might agree on that one especially the russ pots brigade;!.. -- Tony Sayer |
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