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On Sat, 30 May 2009 21:34:47 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:

There are no plans for this!

Just because there are currently no plans for this to happen, does not
mean that it will not happen.

When DVB-t was introduced, there were no plans to switch off the analog
transmissions.

2) Only the most expensive TVs are likely to have it built-in when it
does.

Do only the most expensive TVs have MPEG-4 encoders built in?

4) ITV and C4 are going lukewarm on DTT HD.

Because they are trying to get a free handout.

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J G Miller wrote:

4) ITV and C4 are going lukewarm on DTT HD.

Because they are trying to get a free handout.

No, because they can't see a business case currently. ITV have just closed
this month their future technology dept, so there's another negative factor.


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On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:21:33 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote:

I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".

It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need
it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some
others.


And you can always look for a competitor to price match against.

JL have been known to play a game where they get the manufacturer to
put a label on with a slightly different model number. Then they can
claim no-one else stocks QUITE the same item. They also make great
play of their guarantee. As no-one else sells QUITE the same package,
they can wriggle out of price-matching.

I'm afraid they sell into the market which thinks paying more gets you
something better. That just ain't true with consumer toys these days.

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On Sat, 30 May 2009 16:33:56 +0100, "Angela" wrote:


"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
.. .
| On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, "Angela" wrote:
|
| Any other reasons you prefer to pay more than for a LCD?

In comparison the picture is much better - go to a showroom and take a look

|
| I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
| better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".

I would be interested to see you to find cheaper than £1,099 with a 5 year
extended warranty and free delivery on a saturday for the Samsung UE40B6000?
Bet you can't! Cheapest we found online was currys at £999 and the warranty
is £8.99 a month - a hefty £539!! And I certainly don't rate Currys as a
retailer.

Isn't it interesting that so many people think John Lewis is expensive!


OK. You've decided what toy you want :-) Go enjoy it.

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In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most
impressive!

You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things
that make sets look their best in shops.


Other way round guv!.. most all the ones I've seen in Vomit and such are
**** poor !..


In general maybe - unless they are pushing one brand.

OTOH if and when we decide to buy one we'll go to richer sounds where
they do give a **** what their displays look like;).

Least they do round here...

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most
impressive!

You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things
that make sets look their best in shops.


Other way round guv!.. most all the ones I've seen in Vomit and such are
**** poor !..


In general maybe - unless they are pushing one brand.

No David there're just clueless about the subject..

But Joe public has bought it on himself by wanting any and everything
for as cheap as possible and the best deal around so something has to
suffer...

--
Tony Sayer

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In article , Mark Carver
scribeth thus
J G Miller wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:
On what possible logic?????

On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes.

Yes, it probably will, but based upon 10 years of DVB-T1, first generation
DVB-T2 receivers will probably be next to useless by the time T1 is finally
ditched. If ITV and C4 do delay their HD DTT services, I doubt the
availability of just BBC HD will be compelling enough for the T2 market to
survive ?

In fact I'm not terribly confident that even Freesat will pull through ?



Which is a shame as Satellite has a lot more going for it than just the
Sky TV its seen as. We use a Dreambox here for the main TV and a few
satellite receiver cards in PC's. All of which work fine receiving
several sats of a diseq system, and don't have the complete programme
guide but theres always the net for that if needed..

Its a very good way to distribute TV in very high quality to the nation
in just the one hit, bags of bandwidth albeit a lot of it wasted on
absolute junk TV but its the natural home for HD TV...
--
Tony Sayer

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In message , tony sayer
wrote

But Joe public has bought it on himself by wanting any and everything
for as cheap as possible and the best deal around so something has to
suffer...



But the companies selling at top price are no better! And if you take
the top end Hi-Fi market as an example then the technical advice is
likely to be complete B******t.

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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J G Miller wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:
On what possible logic?????

On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes.

Yes, it probably will, but based upon 10 years of DVB-T1, first generation
DVB-T2 receivers will probably be next to useless by the time T1 is
finally
ditched. If ITV and C4 do delay their HD DTT services, I doubt the
availability of just BBC HD will be compelling enough for the T2 market to
survive ?

In fact I'm not terribly confident that even Freesat will pull through ?



Which is a shame as Satellite has a lot more going for it than just the
Sky TV its seen as. We use a Dreambox here for the main TV and a few
satellite receiver cards in PC's. All of which work fine receiving
several sats of a diseq system, and don't have the complete programme
guide but theres always the net for that if needed..

Its a very good way to distribute TV in very high quality to the nation
in just the one hit, bags of bandwidth albeit a lot of it wasted on
absolute junk TV but its the natural home for HD TV...

Not to mention all those regional variations which are really
duplications for most of the time. Are the British unique with
this bandwidth hungry model?

--
Graham.

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In article , Alan
scribeth thus
In message , tony sayer
wrote

But Joe public has bought it on himself by wanting any and everything
for as cheap as possible and the best deal around so something has to
suffer...



But the companies selling at top price are no better! And if you take
the top end Hi-Fi market as an example then the technical advice is
likely to be complete B******t.


Well the few times I've been into the local richer sounds for odd's and
sods they've been what I'd consider as quite keen on what there're
selling and knowledgeable unlike the muppets in the white good's sheds..

As to upper end hi-fly might agree on that one especially the russ pots
brigade;!..
--
Tony Sayer