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In article ,
Brian Mc wrote:
The dog from that film you saw wrote:
: the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have
: as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture -
: example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow
: around it where the led's light is coming through.

Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each
backlight LED illuminates.

I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive!

You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things
that make sets look their best in shops.

--
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On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:
On what possible logic?????

On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes.

many people do NOT use the built-in Freeview tuner at all (with Sky,
Virgin etc.)

Yes, those people prefer to pay for their television rather than receiving
it FREE to air.

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J G Miller wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:
On what possible logic?????

On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes.

Yes, it probably will, but based upon 10 years of DVB-T1, first generation
DVB-T2 receivers will probably be next to useless by the time T1 is finally
ditched. If ITV and C4 do delay their HD DTT services, I doubt the
availability of just BBC HD will be compelling enough for the T2 market to
survive ?

In fact I'm not terribly confident that even Freesat will pull through ?


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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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| On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, "Angela" wrote:
|
| Any other reasons you prefer to pay more than for a LCD?

In comparison the picture is much better - go to a showroom and take a look

|
| I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
| better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".

I would be interested to see you to find cheaper than £1,099 with a 5 year
extended warranty and free delivery on a saturday for the Samsung UE40B6000?
Bet you can't! Cheapest we found online was currys at £999 and the warranty
is £8.99 a month - a hefty £539!! And I certainly don't rate Currys as a
retailer.

Isn't it interesting that so many people think John Lewis is expensive!

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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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| On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, Angela wrote:
|
| We need a new TV as ours has finally died.
|
| Best to wait until the end of the year when TV with DVB-t2 tuners
| will start to become available.

Can't wait as I have no desire to watch a portable TV for a year to get
something I wont even use as we have sky.

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote
In article ,
Brian Mc wrote:
The dog from that film you saw wrote:
: the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have
: as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture -
: example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow
: around it where the led's light is coming through.

Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each
backlight LED illuminates.

I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive!

You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things
that make sets look their best in shops.


I wouldn't trust anything seen in a TV store as representative of what
you get in the box. Out-of-the-box my (traditionally lit backlight)
Samsung TV was so badly setup. Everything was over-saturated and too
high a contrast - garish colours. The 'shop display' setting that can be
selected from the opening menu was even worse!

I did find for my TV someone else's calibration settings which toned
down the picture to be very usable.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Settings.htm

The setting stores use are for their lighting conditions and not
necessarily the same as you would require at home. The content they
show on TVs tends to be computer generated animation with limited colour
range or HD. They tend not to show SD content which would show the flaws
in up-scaling on a large screen.

If the Samsung adverts are anything to go by then avoid their LED
backlight TVs. There seems to be bright white lighting effects on the
edges of living items breaking through the LCD :)
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/l...al_led7000.jpg


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"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote
In article ,
Brian Mc wrote:
The dog from that film you saw wrote:
: the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have
: as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture -
: example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow
: around it where the led's light is coming through.

Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each
backlight LED illuminates.

I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most
impressive!

You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things
that make sets look their best in shops.


I wouldn't trust anything seen in a TV store as representative of what you
get in the box. Out-of-the-box my (traditionally lit backlight) Samsung TV
was so badly setup. Everything was over-saturated and too high a
contrast - garish colours. The 'shop display' setting that can be selected
from the opening menu was even worse!

I did find for my TV someone else's calibration settings which toned down
the picture to be very usable.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Settings.htm

The setting stores use are for their lighting conditions and not
necessarily the same as you would require at home. The content they show
on TVs tends to be computer generated animation with limited colour range
or HD. They tend not to show SD content which would show the flaws in
up-scaling on a large screen.

If the Samsung adverts are anything to go by then avoid their LED
backlight TVs. There seems to be bright white lighting effects on the
edges of living items breaking through the LCD :)
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/l...al_led7000.jpg

I hear the next model will have a white-spot suppression
knob on the back ;-)

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
Brian Mc wrote:
The dog from that film you saw wrote:
: the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have
: as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture -
: example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow
: around it where the led's light is coming through.

Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each
backlight LED illuminates.

I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive!

You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things
that make sets look their best in shops.


Other way round guv!.. most all the ones I've seen in Vomit and such are
**** poor !..

OTOH if and when we decide to buy one we'll go to richer sounds where
they do give a **** what their displays look like;).

Least they do round here...
--
Tony Sayer

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In article , Graham.
scribeth thus


"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote
In article ,
Brian Mc wrote:
The dog from that film you saw wrote:
: the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have
: as many leds as pixels. this means that when a part of the picture -
: example a star on a black sky, is illuminated, there will be a glow
: around it where the led's light is coming through.

Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each
backlight LED illuminates.

I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most
impressive!

You generally need prolonged viewing to decide. They often show things
that make sets look their best in shops.


I wouldn't trust anything seen in a TV store as representative of what you
get in the box. Out-of-the-box my (traditionally lit backlight) Samsung TV
was so badly setup. Everything was over-saturated and too high a
contrast - garish colours. The 'shop display' setting that can be selected
from the opening menu was even worse!

I did find for my TV someone else's calibration settings which toned down
the picture to be very usable.
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Settings.htm

The setting stores use are for their lighting conditions and not
necessarily the same as you would require at home. The content they show
on TVs tends to be computer generated animation with limited colour range
or HD. They tend not to show SD content which would show the flaws in
up-scaling on a large screen.

If the Samsung adverts are anything to go by then avoid their LED
backlight TVs. There seems to be bright white lighting effects on the
edges of living items breaking through the LCD :)
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/l...al_led7000.jpg

I hear the next model will have a white-spot suppression
knob on the back ;-)


LOL!...

Showing yer age there M8!...
--
Tony Sayer

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J G Miller wrote:
: On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:41:27 +0000, Brian Mc wrote:
: On what possible logic?????

: On the logic that DVB-t2 will eventually replace all DVB-t multiplexes.

There are no plans for this! However DVB-T2 receivers will also receive
DVB-T

If I was buying a TV I would not wait for DVT-T2 IDTVs for the following
reasons:-

1) They may not come as soon as you think

2) Only the most expensive TVs are likely to have it built-in when it does.

3) Many areas won't bbe able to use it's HD reception until 2012
(partly leading to (2))

4) ITV and C4 are going lukewarm on DTT HD.



: many people do NOT use the built-in Freeview tuner at all (with Sky,
: Virgin etc.)

: Yes, those people prefer to pay for their television rather than receiving
: it FREE to air.