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Mark Carver May 22nd 09 02:25 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
South Downs wrote:
tony sayer wrote:

Also bear in mind that the very mention of the words 'Sky' or 'Murdoch' has
a similar effect on many people to that of 'Thatcher' on a dyed in the wool
socialist.

Meanwhile Arqiva have a bigger business and monopoly and no one bats an
eyelid;!..


Its the Aussies revenge;!...



Not really. Arqiva might have cornered the transmission market, but that market
is being slowly replaced by satellite and broadband over 3G and 4G. The BBC and
other broadcasters know this, hence the large investment in those technologies.


Arqiva also supply the BBC with OB Trucks, studio facilities, and (via
sister company Red Bee) playout and subtitling.



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Mark
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Mark Carver May 22nd 09 02:32 PM

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wrote:


PS! PSB-3 HD channels will share 36.1 Mbps
or 11.5 Mbps each (+ overhead 1-2 Mbps)
Later in 2010 4 channels will use 8.5 Mbps.


Replace 'will' with 'might'. There's a deep recession on if you haven't
noticed !



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[email protected] May 22nd 09 03:12 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
On 22 Maj, 14:32, Mark Carver wrote:
There's a deep recession on if you haven't
noticed !


And ? -

The C4 ITV problems are related to income
- not expenses.

Its an advertising based businessmodel that
breaks in all recessions - currently in the UK
and almost everywhere.

In the US newpapers are dying - for the
very same reason. This has nothing to do
with DTT transmissions of HD in the UK.

The BBC have the same income (and the
government do print money).

MUX-B must pass DSO and the cost will be
next to identical for DVB-T and DVB-T2.

Consumers may buy a few boxes more or less
- who cares as long as the BBC-1 is universally
available.

Lars :)

tony sayer May 22nd 09 06:54 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
In article , South Downs
[email protected]?.? scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:

Also bear in mind that the very mention of the words 'Sky' or 'Murdoch' has
a similar effect on many people to that of 'Thatcher' on a dyed in the wool
socialist.


Meanwhile Arqiva have a bigger business and monopoly and no one bats an
eyelid;!..


Its the Aussies revenge;!...



Not really. Arqiva might have cornered the transmission market, but that market
is being slowly replaced by satellite and broadband over 3G and 4G. The BBC and
other broadcasters know this, hence the large investment in those technologies.


Come on now .. that may happen one day but at the moment a lot of the
country is staggering along with very poor ADSL over 100 year old copper
delivery and theres a lot of places barely 30 miles from London where 2G
voice is **** poor still!..

Also Arqiva have cornered the market for the delivery of 3 and whatever
G mobile as they own a lot of the infrastructure do it with...
--
Tony Sayer


Andy Champ[_2_] May 22nd 09 10:04 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
J G Miller wrote:
A National Mass Retuning Day has been proposed.

And DVB-t2/MPEG-4 boxes are to be priced at GBP 200 (claims The Grauniad)

http://www.guardian.co.UK/media/2009/may/20/digital-tv-freeview-retuning-world-cup


Let me get this right - at the moment there are no DVB-T2 boxes available.

There won't be any until maybe Q4 this year.

So in the 6 months following that they hope to roll out maybe 10 million
boxes for all the footy nuts in the UK? In the middle of a recession,
when they haven't got any money?

Andy

J G Miller[_4_] May 22nd 09 10:42 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:04:36 +0100, Andy Champ wrote:

So in the 6 months following that they hope to roll out maybe 10 million
boxes for all the footy nuts in the UK? In the middle of a recession,
when they haven't got any money?


Consumer driven economic recovery? ;)


[email protected] May 23rd 09 05:17 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
On 22 Maj, 22:04, Andy Champ wrote:

Let me get this right - at the moment there are no DVB-T2 boxes available..

There won't be any until maybe Q4 this year.


Nobody will need then before Q4.

So in the 6 months following that they hope to roll out maybe 10 million
boxes for all the footy nuts in the UK? *In the middle of a recession,
when they haven't got any money?

Andy


Nobody expect all 10 million households to be 'footy nuts'
and buy a new receiver in the first 6 months - even though
this would not present any larger logistical problem than
delivering say a box or 'Kellogg's' for 10 million households.

Nobody cares if some viewers cannot afford a new box
in 6 months, in 12 or ever. I hope HD is NOT on the list
of 'must have' at social security offices.

The HD broadcast is a service that will be offered for free
but it will have a small initial cost - say £100 - for a STB,
if you or others want to use this service - end of story.

Its just TV - not life or death.

Lars :)

Mark Carver May 23rd 09 06:19 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
wrote:

So in the 6 months following that they hope to roll out maybe 10 million
boxes for all the footy nuts in the UK? In the middle of a recession,
when they haven't got any money?

Andy


Nobody expect all 10 million households to be 'footy nuts'
and buy a new receiver in the first 6 months - even though
this would not present any larger logistical problem than
delivering say a box or 'Kellogg's' for 10 million households.


I think you'll find anybody who is a 'Footy Nut' already has Sky ?
Any HD inclined 'Footy Nut' will already have (or will soon upgrade to) Sky HD.


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J G Miller[_4_] May 23rd 09 07:09 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
On Sat, 23 May 2009 08:17:18 -0700, reslfj wrote:

I hope HD is NOT on the list of 'must have' at social
security offices.


It is if you live in The Netherlands.

http://www.shortnews.COM/start.cfm?id=74409


Andy Champ[_2_] May 23rd 09 11:58 PM

National Mass Retuning Day
 
Mark Carver wrote:

I think you'll find anybody who is a 'Footy Nut' already has Sky ?
Any HD inclined 'Footy Nut' will already have (or will soon upgrade to)
Sky HD.



That's a good argument.

So why are they concerned about getting HD on it ready for the world cup?

Andy


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