IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

Hi All,

Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat feeds
from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can access the 2
incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no problem, if
required.

I wont to extend all feeds to both bedrooms at the same time, as well
keeping them in the lounge. I understand I can daisy chain the TV &
FM/DAB, no problem. How do I extend the 2 x sat feeds. I have 2 x
cables in place (CT100) from IRS outlet in lounge to both bedrooms just
for the sat feeds, currently not terminated anywhere. How do I go about
this? I assume I can't just daisy chain the sat feeds as well? What is
the usual method of dealing with this problem?

I understand any outlet added will only be able to watch one channel at
a time - i.e. all sat outlets will be receiving the same channel at any
one time. No problem with this.

Await the wisdom of this group.

Thanks
Alan

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

You can either use priority switches or receivers that loop through.

A priority switch will pass signal to the priority output if it detects
voltage on the cable.

A loop through receiver will pass the input to its out put when off or in
standby.

Nasty things will happen it you simply daisy chain and wire or two receivers
together and on outputs 13V and the other 18V...

"bin me" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat feeds
from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can access the 2
incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no problem, if
required.

I wont to extend all feeds to both bedrooms at the same time, as well
keeping them in the lounge. I understand I can daisy chain the TV &
FM/DAB, no problem. How do I extend the 2 x sat feeds. I have 2 x cables
in place (CT100) from IRS outlet in lounge to both bedrooms just for the
sat feeds, currently not terminated anywhere. How do I go about this? I
assume I can't just daisy chain the sat feeds as well? What is the usual
method of dealing with this problem?

I understand any outlet added will only be able to watch one channel at a
time - i.e. all sat outlets will be receiving the same channel at any one
time. No problem with this.

Await the wisdom of this group.

Thanks
Alan

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

"bin me" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat feeds
from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can access the 2
incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no problem, if
required.

I wont to extend all feeds to both bedrooms at the same time, as well
keeping them in the lounge. I understand I can daisy chain the TV &
FM/DAB, no problem. How do I extend the 2 x sat feeds. I have 2 x cables
in place (CT100) from IRS outlet in lounge to both bedrooms just for the
sat feeds, currently not terminated anywhere. How do I go about this? I
assume I can't just daisy chain the sat feeds as well? What is the usual
method of dealing with this problem?

I understand any outlet added will only be able to watch one channel at a
time - i.e. all sat outlets will be receiving the same channel at any one
time. No problem with this.

Await the wisdom of this group.

Thanks
Alan
If you are content with the same satellite channel on all the TVs
why bother to attempt to extend the satellite IF feeds?
Just distribute the RF output of your main PVR or use a modulator
if the box doesn't have RF. Obviously you wont have RGB quality
in the bedrooms, but a local PVR in each room isn't going to
work properly unless you have additional feeds from the head-end
or erect your own dish.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

In message , Graham.
writes


"bin me" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat feeds
from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can access the 2
incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no problem, if
required.

I wont to extend all feeds to both bedrooms at the same time, as well
keeping them in the lounge. I understand I can daisy chain the TV &
FM/DAB, no problem. How do I extend the 2 x sat feeds. I have 2 x cables
in place (CT100) from IRS outlet in lounge to both bedrooms just for the
sat feeds, currently not terminated anywhere. How do I go about this? I
assume I can't just daisy chain the sat feeds as well? What is the usual
method of dealing with this problem?

I understand any outlet added will only be able to watch one channel at a
time - i.e. all sat outlets will be receiving the same channel at any one
time. No problem with this.

Await the wisdom of this group.

Thanks
Alan
If you are content with the same satellite channel on all the TVs
why bother to attempt to extend the satellite IF feeds?
The lounge TV may be switched off, they (its a rental flat we have)
could like to watch TV in the bedroom.

Just distribute the RF output of your main PVR or use a modulator
if the box doesn't have RF.
Yes, RF distribution would be one way, I hadn't considered that; but as
you say below, quality could be an issue, particularly as we slowly move
to HD TV.

Obviously you wont have RGB quality
in the bedrooms, but a local PVR in each room isn't going to
work properly unless you have additional feeds from the head-end
or erect your own dish.
I don't think they will have PVR's in the bedrooms, just the lounge.
Agree a PVR won't work correctly unless if has its own head-end feed.

Thanks for the reply.
Alan

--
Alan

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

Hi Mark,

Thanks for that information. Loop through seems the best and simplest
option. I do like the KISS principle!

Regards
Alan

In message , R. Mark Clayton
writes
You can either use priority switches or receivers that loop through.

A priority switch will pass signal to the priority output if it detects
voltage on the cable.

A loop through receiver will pass the input to its out put when off or in
standby.

Nasty things will happen it you simply daisy chain and wire or two receivers
together and on outputs 13V and the other 18V...

"bin me" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat feeds
from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can access the 2
incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no problem, if
required.

I wont to extend all feeds to both bedrooms at the same time, as well
keeping them in the lounge. I understand I can daisy chain the TV &
FM/DAB, no problem. How do I extend the 2 x sat feeds. I have 2 x cables
in place (CT100) from IRS outlet in lounge to both bedrooms just for the
sat feeds, currently not terminated anywhere. How do I go about this? I
assume I can't just daisy chain the sat feeds as well? What is the usual
method of dealing with this problem?

I understand any outlet added will only be able to watch one channel at a
time - i.e. all sat outlets will be receiving the same channel at any one
time. No problem with this.

Await the wisdom of this group.

Thanks
Alan



--
Alan

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

"bin me" wrote in message
...
In message , Graham.
writes


"bin me" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat feeds
from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can access the 2
incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no problem, if
required.

I wont to extend all feeds to both bedrooms at the same time, as well
keeping them in the lounge. I understand I can daisy chain the TV &
FM/DAB, no problem. How do I extend the 2 x sat feeds. I have 2 x
cables
in place (CT100) from IRS outlet in lounge to both bedrooms just for the
sat feeds, currently not terminated anywhere. How do I go about this? I
assume I can't just daisy chain the sat feeds as well? What is the
usual
method of dealing with this problem?

I understand any outlet added will only be able to watch one channel at
a
time - i.e. all sat outlets will be receiving the same channel at any
one
time. No problem with this.

Await the wisdom of this group.

Thanks
Alan
If you are content with the same satellite channel on all the TVs
why bother to attempt to extend the satellite IF feeds?
The lounge TV may be switched off, they (its a rental flat we have) could
like to watch TV in the bedroom.

Just distribute the RF output of your main PVR or use a modulator
if the box doesn't have RF.
Yes, RF distribution would be one way, I hadn't considered that; but as
you say below, quality could be an issue, particularly as we slowly move
to HD TV.

Obviously you wont have RGB quality
in the bedrooms, but a local PVR in each room isn't going to
work properly unless you have additional feeds from the head-end
or erect your own dish.
I don't think they will have PVR's in the bedrooms, just the lounge. Agree
a PVR won't work correctly unless if has its own head-end feed.

Thanks for the reply.
Alan

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you wanted to distribute both sat.
feeds. However my idea is still valid, the main TV doesn't have to
be on, just the satellite PVR. (And modulator if the box doesn't
have RF)

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

bin me wrote:

Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat feeds
from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can access the 2
incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no problem, if
required.

I wont to extend all feeds [...]

You might (or might not) find the Proception proSTR5M relevant. This is
the MDU[*] version of the starBOX hub range and has:

- 2 main inputs, to be fed directly from the incoming IRS lines;

- a UHF return input, usually fed from RF OUT-2 on a Sky box (or similar
STB loop-thro' chain);

- an optional auxiliary UHF i/p for a local source (CCTV etc.);

- a 'master' output carrying SAT(1), UHF, and VHF (taken from the IRS1
input feed, plus the aux UHF, if used);

- a SAT2 o/p;

- five 'extension room' distribution outputs carrying VHF (from IRS1)
and UHF (from the return input). Sky-type remote control extension from
all 5 distribution o/p's back the the return i/p is supported, with the
outputs each providing 9 V 'eye power'.

The master and SAT2 outputs usually feed a 4-way outlet module like the
one you already have, providing SAT(x2), UHF & VHF on separate
connectors. A Proception proOUT35RT or similar plate combines this
module with a single socket for the UHF return and a secondary phone
jack for the STBs modem (2-gang back box required). This outlet usually
goes in the lounge, but doesn't have to, of course.

The extension rooms only need diplexed VHF/UHF outlets (e.g. proOUT12C).
Make sure they have DC continuity to the UHF side if you want the
remote eyes to work!

IRS2-in to SAT2-out is just a straight thro' connection on the MDU
version. If you're not using Sky+ this could be wired thro' to a
single 'F' outlet in a bedroom, etc. and used for a second Sky or
Freesat box.

http://www.blake-uk.com/page/proception_prostr
[*] MDU = multiple dwelling unit, e.g. flats.

My vested interest in the products mentioned is hereby declared, as usual.

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Andy

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

My vested interest in the products mentioned is hereby declared, as usual.


Indeed;-)..

When are you going to get around to a CCTV to Digital carrier
modulator?..


--
Tony Sayer

IRS to 1 flat _ How to extend to other rooms in same flat
 

In message , Andy Wade
writes
bin me wrote:
Have an outlet on an IRS to a flat, in the lounge. It has 2 sat
feeds from 28E, terrestrial TV, FM/DAB on the face plate. I can
access the 2 incoming co-axial cables to the rear of the face plate no
problem, if required.
I wont to extend all feeds [...]

You might (or might not) find the Proception proSTR5M relevant. This
is the MDU[*] version of the starBOX hub range and has:

- 2 main inputs, to be fed directly from the incoming IRS lines;

- a UHF return input, usually fed from RF OUT-2 on a Sky box (or
similar STB loop-thro' chain);

- an optional auxiliary UHF i/p for a local source (CCTV etc.);

- a 'master' output carrying SAT(1), UHF, and VHF (taken from the IRS1
input feed, plus the aux UHF, if used);

- a SAT2 o/p;

- five 'extension room' distribution outputs carrying VHF (from IRS1)
and UHF (from the return input). Sky-type remote control extension
from all 5 distribution o/p's back the the return i/p is supported,
with the outputs each providing 9 V 'eye power'.

The master and SAT2 outputs usually feed a 4-way outlet module like the
one you already have, providing SAT(x2), UHF & VHF on separate
connectors. A Proception proOUT35RT or similar plate combines this
module with a single socket for the UHF return and a secondary phone
jack for the STBs modem (2-gang back box required). This outlet
usually goes in the lounge, but doesn't have to, of course.

The extension rooms only need diplexed VHF/UHF outlets (e.g.
proOUT12C). Make sure they have DC continuity to the UHF side if you
want the remote eyes to work!

IRS2-in to SAT2-out is just a straight thro' connection on the MDU
version. If you're not using Sky+ this could be wired thro' to a
single 'F' outlet in a bedroom, etc. and used for a second Sky or
Freesat box.

http://www.blake-uk.com/page/proception_prostr

[*] MDU = multiple dwelling unit, e.g. flats.

My vested interest in the products mentioned is hereby declared, as usual.

Hi Andy,

It would have been very useful if I had known about it before chasing
the cables into the wall! I would have brought all the cables back to a
common point. Now have 4 co-axial cables going from the lounge to the
1st and then 2nd bedrooms in a daisy chain. Each room has 2 outlet
positions. I have installed them as a daisy chain - hence I think the
only practical solutions is to use 1/2 cables (non Sky+/Sky+) at each
outlet point in each room for Sat, using the loop-through function for
the Sat service provided by a Sat receiver. Use 1 cable for FM/DAB & 1
cable for Terrestrial TV; daisy chained. Unless of course, you or
anyone has a better/alternative idea 8 )

Regards
Alan
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Alan