Sky television
 

I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over the
telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I already have Internet
broadband. I'm concerned that also getting television may not be a good
thing. For example we're told that copper wire has a finite capacity. Will
it take broadband, telephone and television without degrading those
services?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway

Sky television
 

Bill Ridgeway wrote:
I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over the
telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I already have Internet
broadband. I'm concerned that also getting television may not be a good
thing. For example we're told that copper wire has a finite capacity. Will
it take broadband, telephone and television without degrading those
services?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway


Are you sure you have'nt got the wrong end fo the stick there? I did'nt
think Sky were into IPTV? I think that delivering IPTV would require at
least ADSL2+....do you live in an ADSL2+ region?

Rob.

Sky television
 

Bill, I think you have some wires crossed, or else $ky are being even
more misleading than they habitually are, in this case to the point of
potentially confusing potential customers away from Sky altogether, so
probably not the latter.

$ky is indeed delivered via geo-stationary satellite to a satellite
dish. The phone line may have been introduced into the conversation
because:

1) IIRC, Sky boxes need to 'phone home', at least upon in
installation, maybe sometimes subsequently, before they will work.

2) $ky also delivers some content in a similar manner to the BBC
iPlayer, theirs is $ky Player, so that you can watch programmes that
you missed, etc.

If you really must have $ky, then the place to begin is probably
Freesat from $ky / Pay Once Watch Forever (WARNING: Some might
consider both these names to be deliberately confusing &/or
misleading) ...
http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/
.... or their subscription services ...
http://www.sky.com/portal/site/skycom/skyproducts

However, you might find that Freesat will give you all you require. I
would recommend that you also have a look at what you can get for free
before signing up to anything with $ky.
http://www.freesat.co.uk/

If you want to know more about the options for receiving UK TV
generally, then I have prepared a doc on the subject:
http://tinyurl.com/5svtuk
.... standing in for ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...TVInTheUK.html

I also have quite a comprehensive section on Satellite TV, including
DIY help, etc:
http://tinyurl.com/6fpbyy
.... standing in for ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...telliteTV.html


On Sun, 17 May 2009 10:22:21 +0100, "Bill Ridgeway"
wrote:

I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over the
telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I already have Internet
broadband. I'm concerned that also getting television may not be a good
thing. For example we're told that copper wire has a finite capacity. Will
it take broadband, telephone and television without degrading those
services?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway


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"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over
the telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I



since when do they say that? - of course it's via satellite.
you're either fibbing or you spoke to an insane lunatic



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....

Sky television
 

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over
the telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I already have
Internet broadband. I'm concerned that also getting television may not be
a good thing. For example we're told that copper wire has a finite
capacity. Will it take broadband, telephone and television without
degrading those services?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway

Thanks for your replies. I spoke (on-line) to an agent. I asked
specifically if delivery is by dish or telephone. He answered by telephone
and, when asked again, confirmed his answer. I was a little suspicious when
during the 'conversation' he asked me twice about signing up. I had the
impression he just wanted a bit more commission and was willing to tell a
potential customer anything they wanted to hear to get the sale. Good job I
asked here!

Bill Ridgeway

Sky television
 

"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in
message ...

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over
the telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I



since when do they say that? - of course it's via satellite.
you're either fibbing or you spoke to an insane lunatic



--
Gareth.


http://skyplayer.sky.com/vod/page/default/home.do

You Can take the option of viewing without a SKY Dish/Account.

"Want to watch TV on Sky Player?
You can take out a monthly Sky Player TV subscription from as little as
£15/€18 (with no minimum subscription period) OR you can rent or buy on
demand from only £0.98/€1.27 per programme. After you click ‘Register’
below, you'll see more information about what's on offer."

Sky television
 

"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Bill, I think you have some wires crossed, or else $ky are being even
more misleading than they habitually are, in this case to the point of
potentially confusing potential customers away from Sky altogether, so
probably not the latter.

$ky is indeed delivered via geo-stationary satellite to a satellite
dish. The phone line may have been introduced into the conversation
because:

1) IIRC, Sky boxes need to 'phone home', at least upon in
installation, maybe sometimes subsequently, before they will work.

2) $ky also delivers some content in a similar manner to the BBC
iPlayer, theirs is $ky Player, so that you can watch programmes that
you missed, etc.

If you really must have $ky, then the place to begin is probably
Freesat from $ky / Pay Once Watch Forever (WARNING: Some might
consider both these names to be deliberately confusing &/or
misleading) ...
http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/


On the other hand, if Sky broadband LLU is available in his area?

It could be worth taking a typical sky dish delivered package
with LLU (what sky call Max, up to 16Mb) broadband added.

As it could be cheaper and better broadband than he has,
and reduce the cost of a Sky package on it's own?

Steve Terry

Sky television
 

On 2009-05-17, Rob Wilson wrote:
Bill Ridgeway wrote:
I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over the
telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I already have Internet
broadband. I'm concerned that also getting television may not be a good
thing. For example we're told that copper wire has a finite capacity. Will
it take broadband, telephone and television without degrading those
services?

Are you sure you have'nt got the wrong end fo the stick there? I did'nt
think Sky were into IPTV? I think that delivering IPTV would require at
least ADSL2+....do you live in an ADSL2+ region?

I have IPTV service in Hong Kong, and it runs just fine over normal,
plain old ADSL. I think a standard definition channel only uses 1.5 Mbps
or so.

They do, however, provide an ADSL circuit dedicated to the TV service,
separate from the circuit used for Internet service.

In any case, I don't think Sky does anything like that.

Dennis Ferguson

Sky television
 

Steve Terry wrote:
|| As it could be cheaper and better broadband than he has,


How so? Unless the OP lives relatively close to the exchange the
advantages of being ADSL2 become a rapidly diminishing factor.

Sky television
 

"Kraftee" wrote in message
...
Steve Terry wrote:
|| As it could be cheaper and better broadband than he has,


How so? Unless the OP lives relatively close to the exchange the
advantages of being ADSL2 become a rapidly diminishing factor.


Cheap and generally reliable for the price.

Depends what he's already got, and maybe he is near a LLUed exchange?

Steve Terry

Sky television
 

Steve Terry wrote:
|| "Kraftee" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Steve Terry wrote:
||||| As it could be cheaper and better broadband than he has,
|||
|||
||| How so? Unless the OP lives relatively close to the exchange the
||| advantages of being ADSL2 become a rapidly diminishing factor.
|||
|||
|| Cheap and generally reliable for the price.

How so, there are other companies with cheap packages and thru
experience I know that SKY are very slow with getting any of their LLU
equipment serviced or maintained (3 months to get some D plugs moved
on the back of one of their suites, I seem to recall with nearly 100
users without service for most of the time), They also try to get
their end users to report line faults to Openreach, thus getting the
end users charged and the problem not being fixed.

Sorry but just telling what my experience has been with SKY, the only
ISP who gave me a 95% refund when I left early instead of trying to
raise a penalty fee. The only other national company who had come
close has now withered and died

Sky television
 

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over
the telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I already have
Internet broadband. I'm concerned that also getting television may not be
a good thing. For example we're told that copper wire has a finite
capacity. Will it take broadband, telephone and television without
degrading those services?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway

Sky TV is delivered from satellites via microwaves to a small dish, known as
a minidish; it does not use ADSL/DSL. The connection to the phone line is
via a built in audio modem for the purposes of initial installation and
charging for pay-per view programmes (Sky boxes generally 'phone home' once
per day). Sky do not provide a cable service, you need to talk to Virgin
about that, but cable TV is only available in very limited areas in Britain.
Mike.

Sky television
 

Mike GW8IJT wrote:

Sky do not provide a cable service

They do however offer "free" ADSL connection to their TV customers
(maybe if you also take their phone service - wouldn't know not a customer).

Sky television
 

On May 17, 12:07*pm, "Bill Ridgeway" wrote:

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote:

I'm thinking about getting Sky television. *Sky says it's delivered over
the telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. *I already have
Internet broadband. *I'm concerned that also getting television may not be
a good thing. *For example we're told that copper wire has a finite
capacity. *Will it take broadband, telephone and television without
degrading those services?


Thanks for your replies. *I spoke (on-line) to an agent. *I asked
specifically if delivery is by dish or telephone. *He answered by telephone
and, when asked again, confirmed his answer. *I was a little suspicious when
during the 'conversation' he asked me twice about signing up. *I had the
impression he just wanted a bit more commission and was willing to tell a
potential customer anything they wanted to hear to get the sale. *Good job I
asked here!


Who were you calling? It sounds as though you may have been on the
line to Tiscali, who offer a "Tiscali TV" service via a broadband
connection - this is what used to be called HomeChoice until Tiscali
took over.

Sky television
 

"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in
message ...

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over
the telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. I



since when do they say that? - of course it's via satellite.
you're either fibbing or you spoke to an insane lunatic



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....



Sky: "Earth" might be a bit more appropriate.

Sky television
 

On Mon, 18 May 2009 09:08:38 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

Mike GW8IJT wrote:

Sky do not provide a cable service

They do however offer "free" ADSL connection to their TV customers
(maybe if you also take their phone service - wouldn't know not a customer).

Only their basic 2M/2G package is free with the phone service.

--
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(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.

Sky television
 

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that


"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
: I'm thinking about getting Sky television. Sky says it's delivered over
the
: telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish.

Sky will say anything and everything to lure you .....

Sky television
 

BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.


--
Paul (We won't die of devotion)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Sky television
 

"BTREC" wrote in message
...
Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

And you end up paying for the subscription, the channel packages - and then
still have to watch commercials.
Sky might make sense if it were advertisement-free but until then, I'm
sticking with Freeview.

George

Sky television
 

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)


Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds

Steve Terry

Sky television
 

In article , Steve Terry
scribeth thus
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)


Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds

Steve Terry



We use VM here and I've never had that problem and with two here using
iplayer a lot, would have thought that would happen?..


Unless its the overall amount you use in a day that counts?..
--
Tony Sayer

Sky television
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Steve Terry
scribeth thus
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:
snip
Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds
Steve Terry

We use VM here and I've never had that problem and with two here using
iplayer a lot, would have thought that would happen?..

Unless its the overall amount you use in a day that counts?..
Tony Sayer


Seems completely random who they victimise, i wasn't even a heavy user
ended up with around 6Mps at night, and not much better than dial up
during the day

Steve Terry

Sky television
 

On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve Terry wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Steve Terry
scribeth thus
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:
snip
Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds
Steve Terry

We use VM here and I've never had that problem and with two here using
iplayer a lot, would have thought that would happen?..

Unless its the overall amount you use in a day that counts?..
Tony Sayer


Seems completely random who they victimise, i wasn't even a heavy user
ended up with around 6Mps at night, and not much better than dial up
during the day

Here's the official line on their throttling policy
- http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html

Steve.

Sky television
 

"Steve" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve Terry wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Steve Terry
scribeth thus
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:
snip
Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds
Steve Terry

We use VM here and I've never had that problem and with two here using
iplayer a lot, would have thought that would happen?..

Unless its the overall amount you use in a day that counts?..
Tony Sayer

Seems completely random who they victimise, i wasn't even a heavy user
ended up with around 6Mps at night, and not much better than dial up
during the day

Here's the official line on their throttling policy
- http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html
Steve.


A pack of lies, my downloading was a fraction of that, it think in my case
it was more to do with local bandwidth capabilities, i was in a small town
that had quickly grown from a village

Steve Terry

Sky television
 

On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve Terry wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve Terry wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Steve Terry
scribeth thus
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:
snip
Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds
Steve Terry

We use VM here and I've never had that problem and with two here using
iplayer a lot, would have thought that would happen?..

Unless its the overall amount you use in a day that counts?..
Tony Sayer

Seems completely random who they victimise, i wasn't even a heavy user
ended up with around 6Mps at night, and not much better than dial up
during the day

Here's the official line on their throttling policy
- http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html
Steve.


A pack of lies, my downloading was a fraction of that, it think in my case
it was more to do with local bandwidth capabilities, i was in a small town
that had quickly grown from a village

Ah, ok, sounds like they need to resegment your network.

I generally get the speeds they claim and it's pretty reliable. They do
seem quite proactive round here and have resegmented the network several
times over the years.

Steve.

Sky television
 

On May 20, 3:27*pm, Steve wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve Terry wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
news:[email protected] .
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve Terry wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Steve Terry
scribeth thus
"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:
snip
Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds
Steve Terry

We use VM here and I've never had that problem and with two here using
iplayer a lot, would have thought that would happen?..

Unless its the overall amount you use in a day that counts?..
Tony Sayer

Seems completely random who they victimise, i wasn't even a heavy user
ended up with around 6Mps at night, and not much better than dial up
during the day

Here's the official line on their throttling policy
-http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html
Steve.

A pack of lies, my downloading was a fraction of that, it think in my case
it was more to do with local bandwidth capabilities, i was in a small town
that had quickly grown from a village

Ah, ok, sounds like they need to resegment your network.

I generally get the speeds they claim and it's pretty reliable. They do
seem quite proactive round here and have resegmented the network several
times over the years.

Steve.

When I was on VM Cable 10Meg I got 10Meg. Always.
Now i'm on O2 8Meg I get 8Meg. Sometimes. :)

Sky television
 

Steve Terry wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)


Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds

Steve Terry

I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.

--
Paul (We won't die of devotion)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Sky television
 

On Wed, 20 May 2009 07:37:39 -0700, Mike wrote:

When I was on VM Cable 10Meg I got 10Meg. Always. Now i'm on O2 8Meg I
get 8Meg. Sometimes. :)

But are you paying significantly less in monthly charges?

Sky television
 

In article , Paul Heslop
scribeth thus
Steve Terry wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)


Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds

Steve Terry

I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.


I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a VM
service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally or copper
wire;!..
--
Tony Sayer

Sky television
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Heslop
scribeth thus
Steve Terry wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what
you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want
to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)

Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds
Steve Terry

I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.

I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a VM
service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally or copper
wire;!..
Tony Sayer


Then they have to keep their fingers crossed that Virgin don't throttle them

Steve Terry

Sky television
 

tony sayer wrote:

I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a VM
service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally or copper
wire;!..

Me for one. I don't get 2.5Mb _ever_ and he complains about getting
throttled to it?

Not helped at all by getting Virgin leaflets through the door suggesting
I switch. Guys, YOU DON'T DO MY AREA!

Andy

Sky television
 

In article , Steve Terry
scribeth thus

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Heslop
scribeth thus
Steve Terry wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what
you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want
to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)

Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds
Steve Terry

I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.

I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a VM
service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally or copper
wire;!..
Tony Sayer


Then they have to keep their fingers crossed that Virgin don't throttle them

Steve Terry



One I know struggles to ger 256 K down let alone up;!...
--
Tony Sayer

Sky television
 

tony sayer wrote:

In article , Paul Heslop
scribeth thus
Steve Terry wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)


Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds

Steve Terry

I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.


I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a VM
service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally or copper
wire;!..
--
Tony Sayer



ally who? :O)
--
Paul (We won't die of devotion)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Sky television
 

In article , Paul Heslop
scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:

In article , Paul Heslop
scribeth thus
Steve Terry wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
BTREC wrote:

Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT worth what
you
pay for it. And once a subscriber their customer services dont want to
know
you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are stupid
enough
to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation watch their
national teams on any event free , and every nation use their own
national
telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for all that

I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky still
knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't but it does.
Paul (We won't die of devotion)


Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up speeds

Steve Terry

I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.


I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a VM
service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally or copper
wire;!..
--
Tony Sayer



ally who? :O)

Short for Aluminium

Some BT cables used this in the past ...
--
Tony Sayer

Sky television
 

On May 20, 5:11*pm, J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2009 07:37:39 -0700, Mike wrote:

* When I was on VM Cable 10Meg I got 10Meg. Always. Now i'm on O2 8Meg I
* get 8Meg. Sometimes. :)

But are you paying significantly less in monthly charges?

Absolutely. £7ish a month. And to be totally honest I don't mind the
fact that i'm not getting the FULL 8 meg.

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tony sayer wrote:
|| In article , Paul Heslop
|| scribeth thus
||| Steve Terry wrote:
||||
|||| "Paul Heslop" wrote in message
|||| ...
||||| BTREC wrote:
||||||
|||||| Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT
|||||| worth what you pay for it. And once a subscriber their
|||||| customer services dont want to know
|||||| you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits are
|||||| stupid enough
|||||| to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation
|||||| watch their national teams on any event free , and every
|||||| nation use their own national
|||||| telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for
|||||| all that
||||||
||||| I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky
||||| still knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it doesn't
||||| but it does. Paul (We won't die of devotion)
|||||
|||||
|||| Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up
|||| speeds
||||
|||| Steve Terry
|||
||| I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.
|||
||
|| I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a VM
|| service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally or
|| copper wire;!..

But those are the very people Virgin don't want as they only want to
'cherry pick' the areas they cover.

Here in the East Mids they ploughed their way thru villages to give
service to some of the towns. Did they put a sub node in
place.......like hell they did

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tony sayer wrote:
|| In article , Paul Heslop
|| scribeth thus
||| tony sayer wrote:
||||
|||| In article , Paul Heslop
|||| scribeth thus
||||| Steve Terry wrote:
||||||
|||||| "Paul Heslop" wrote in message
|||||| ...
||||||| BTREC wrote:
||||||||
|||||||| Sky sucks . Believe me any of their paid services are NOT
|||||||| worth what you pay for it. And once a subscriber their
|||||||| customer services dont want to know
|||||||| you. My motto is look for alternatives to Sky. Only Brits
|||||||| are stupid enough
|||||||| to watch everything by paying over the odds. Every nation
|||||||| watch their national teams on any event free , and every
|||||||| nation use their own national
|||||||| telephone system . Except Brits . They like to pay extra for
|||||||| all that
||||||||
||||||| I've sampled both cable and sky and though it is pricey Sky
||||||| still knocks the crap out of cable. I'd like to say it
||||||| doesn't but it does. Paul (We won't die of devotion)
|||||||
|||||||
|||||| Especially when Virgin then throttle your Broadband to dial up
|||||| speeds
||||||
|||||| Steve Terry
|||||
||||| I still have the broadband cos it's what I am used to, sadly.
|||||
||||
|||| I know a LOT of people out in the country who'd pay a lot for a
|||| VM service when their hanging off a very long lump of old ally
|||| or copper wire;!..
|||| --
|||| Tony Sayer
||||
||||
|||
||| ally who? :O)
||
|| Short for Aluminium
||
|| Some BT cables used this in the past ...


SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's supposed to be a secret. As
one of the board stated a few years ago 'There is no Aluminium in the
local network'; with board members like that no wonder BT is where it
is now...

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Kraftee wrote:

SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's supposed to be a secret. As
one of the board stated a few years ago 'There is no Aluminium in the
local network'; with board members like that no wonder BT is where it
is now...



No B*****y secret around here. Not only is it basically not all that
good, but it corrodes at the ends - in the junction boxes.

Andy

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Andy Champ wrote:
|| Kraftee wrote:
|||
||| SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's supposed to be a secret.
||| As one of the board stated a few years ago 'There is no Aluminium
||| in the local network'; with board members like that no wonder BT
||| is where it is now...
|||
|||
||
|| No B*****y secret around here. Not only is it basically not all
|| that good, but it corrodes at the ends - in the junction boxes.

Yes but they don't 'know' that.

After the first little mistake which I've alluded to, more recently
another high level manager insisted that Alluminium is as good as
Copper, pity no one told him about the different responces to certain
frequencies.

Pretty lucky in this patch as until the recent clamp-down cables were
being changed to copper rather than fixing, so a lot of Ali got
shifted and what is left is in reasonable condition, but on other
patches I do know they are suffering badly.

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On 17 May, 10:22, "Bill Ridgeway" wrote:
I'm thinking about gettingSkytelevision. *Skysays it's delivered over the
telephone wire not, as I thought, through a dish. *I already haveInternet
broadband. *I'm concerned that also getting television may not be a good
thing. *For example we're told that copper wire has a finite capacity. *Will
it take broadband, telephone and television without degrading those
services?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway

i have sky telephone, tv and internet and i have never had any
problems with the internet or phone. However due to us not having
telephone line connected to box we sometimes lose signal, this is
because sky "ping" the box to make sure everything is all working and
that is how we lose connection sometimes but other than that never any
problems

kim