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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
om... I mean it does not take a rocket scientist to work out that after the huge runs of normal cable from wherever the mains comes from at your area, one little tiny bit of lead is hardly going to make much difference. Its not as if they are claiming better immunity to electronic noise or anything. As for other interconnects, well, good quality has to start in the equipment, and as long as crap phono plugs are built in, any good long lasting connections are out. Indeed the best investment iis in time to pull them apart every so often and clean the oxide and general crap off which can do wonders. With speaker leads, the problem here is one of current and thus thick ones with a good connection area at each end seems to be the most obvious thing to have. Brian Ah, but you forget Brian, Rip-off Russ advocates the fitment of a single spur from the incoming supply to feed the hi-fi, preferably without fuses, and using 6mm (or more) cable terminated in outlets with gold-plated connectors. The amazing thing is people fall for this, do it, and believe it improves the sound! A properly designed amp with a PROPER regulated power supply and decent but ordinary speaker cables will have much more effect. Are these what you want Tony? http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73452 http://www.russandrews.com/product-C...ators-4227.htm http://www.soundstage.com/equipment/...dark_field.htm http://www.audioxsell.com/classified...le-Lifters.htm These two are a good read as well......................! http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue36/elevators.htm http://www.theanalogdept.com/diy_cable_elevators.htm They ain't all locked up yet........................ -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Woody wrote: Ah, but you forget Brian, Rip-off Russ advocates the fitment of a single spur from the incoming supply to feed the hi-fi, preferably without fuses, and using 6mm (or more) cable terminated in outlets with gold-plated connectors. The amazing thing is people fall for this, do it, and believe it improves the sound! There is some sense in using a dedicated radial circuit to the Hi-Fi - there will be less rubbish on it from the myriads of SMPS we all have these days than on a final ring circuit. Of course it's a moot point as to whether you'd hear a difference in practice. -- *If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , Al
writes Ah, I well remember the famous TED (Tired Electron Distortion) article in a well known, yellow-covered, HiFi magazine decades ago ;) Sales of D-cells went through the roof. Sadly, when the buff where told it was just a hoax there was a backlash of people that really could hear the improvement. TWBEM. Wasn't there someone selling squares of bin bag for 7 quid a shot to put under a corner of your turntable? Admitted to be a hoax but only after hundreds of golden ears had given it rave reviews. Not just HiFi buffs. Try this for size: http://www.theabcd.com/ Mostly for musicians/producers/engineers but a few hifi related bits in it. I have it, tested myself and it confirmed my thoughts. But then I'm biased. My father was heavily involved in the hifi/audio/recording industry :) It's the shiny new kit syndrome, it costs more and looks good so it must be better. Unless it's old enough to be falling apart, then it's 'retro' which sounds even better still apparently and 'imparts its own unique flavour' (flakey, distorted, crappy) to the sound which is *always* good as long as you can either claim to be eclectic or part of a group of similarly feeble minded nutters. Doesn't just happen in HiFi or the recording industry though, it happens everywhere, PC home builders, DIY tool nuts, the blue LED car brigade, everywhere there's someone willing to make 'marketing' claims (outright lie or mislead) you'll find a bunch of gullible idiots queuing to be separated from their cash. HiFi probably has the greatest number of monied fools so you tend to get the most ridiculous claims in that market, plus it's easy to find idiots willing to back up your ridiculous claims. Al. -- Clint Sharp |
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote In article , Woody wrote: Ah, but you forget Brian, Rip-off Russ advocates the fitment of a single spur from the incoming supply to feed the hi-fi, preferably without fuses, and using 6mm (or more) cable terminated in outlets with gold-plated connectors. The amazing thing is people fall for this, do it, and believe it improves the sound! There is some sense in using a dedicated radial circuit to the Hi-Fi - there will be less rubbish on it from the myriads of SMPS we all have these days than on a final ring circuit. Of course it's a moot point as to whether you'd hear a difference in practice. The problem with Hi-Fi is that the all the source material is 'mixed' by a partially deaf sound engineer in the first place. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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Woody wrote: Ah, but you forget Brian, Rip-off Russ advocates the fitment of a single spur from the incoming supply to feed the hi-fi, preferably without fuses, and using 6mm (or more) cable terminated in outlets with gold-plated connectors. The amazing thing is people fall for this, do it, and believe it improves the sound! I still find it incredible that these people stand for mains power at all. All that 50Hz that has to be filtered out... Surely everything should be powered by (enormous) batteries - separate ones for each channel and amplification stage of course - and the ideal turntable would be a flywheel that was disconnected from the power before use. -- Richard -- Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind. |
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In article , Woody
scribeth thus "Brian Gaff" wrote in message . com... I mean it does not take a rocket scientist to work out that after the huge runs of normal cable from wherever the mains comes from at your area, one little tiny bit of lead is hardly going to make much difference. Its not as if they are claiming better immunity to electronic noise or anything. As for other interconnects, well, good quality has to start in the equipment, and as long as crap phono plugs are built in, any good long lasting connections are out. Indeed the best investment iis in time to pull them apart every so often and clean the oxide and general crap off which can do wonders. With speaker leads, the problem here is one of current and thus thick ones with a good connection area at each end seems to be the most obvious thing to have. Brian Ah, but you forget Brian, Rip-off Russ advocates the fitment of a single spur from the incoming supply to feed the hi-fi, preferably without fuses, and using 6mm (or more) cable terminated in outlets with gold-plated connectors. The amazing thing is people fall for this, do it, and believe it improves the sound! A properly designed amp with a PROPER regulated power supply and decent but ordinary speaker cables will have much more effect. Are these what you want Tony? Oh!, Yes:) As well as one of these, wonder what Bill Wright would have to say?. And they are rumoured to make DAB sound better;).. http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...currency=GBP&p f_id=1814&customer_id=PAA1040055409737MGLONEQDLEZQ SBDB http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73452 http://www.russandrews.com/product-C...ators-4227.htm http://www.soundstage.com/equipment/...dark_field.htm http://www.audioxsell.com/classified...le-Lifters.htm These two are a good read as well......................! http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue36/elevators.htm http://www.theanalogdept.com/diy_cable_elevators.htm They ain't all locked up yet........................ Class those!.. Is it really true that he uses the same Virgins to weave these earth cables that were used in Götterdämmerung to weave to rope of destiny?.. Or daren't anyone tell;?.. http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...currency=GBP&p f_id=1020&customer_id=PAA1040055409737MGLONEQDLEZQ SBDB -- Tony Sayer |
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In article , Ian
scribeth thus In message , tony sayer writes In article , Peter Duncanson scribeth thus On Sat, 9 May 2009 16:21:12 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Alan writes In message , R. Mark Clayton wrote On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they cost a few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely gullible* to fall for this kind of guff! It takes some bollox written about power cables to make most people realise that ALL the reviews in these magazines are of the same standard. Reviews with the words "Hi-Fi" are based on the snake oil claims made by manufactures or sellers or are written by journalists with no technical knowledge and who far from the flush of youth with impaired hearing of some sort. (compared to the hearing of a teenager). What I cannot understand is how those who make absolutely outrageous claims for their products are not done by Trading Standards. And I'm sure that some action could also be taken against those who give 'glowing' reviews to these devices. Will Trading Standards act in the absence of complaints from dissatisfied customers? Russ Andrews is yer man for this kind of crap, the advertising standards authority had a go at him somewhile ago.. Ever heard of speaker cable pylons?.. I have a friend who is an "audiophile". He has high end stuff, and always insists that analogue and vinyl can't be beaten. Wouldn't be a bloke called Keith who lives near the A1 in St Neots and rides old bikes?... And uses single ended triode amplifiers;?.. -- Tony Sayer |
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Alan wrote: The problem with Hi-Fi is that the all the source material is 'mixed' by a partially deaf sound engineer in the first place. Make that mastering engineer with pop records and similar processing at radio transmitters and you'd be close to the truth. -- *I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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tony sayer wrote: I have a friend who is an "audiophile". He has high end stuff, and always insists that analogue and vinyl can't be beaten. Wouldn't be a bloke called Keith who lives near the A1 in St Neots and rides old bikes?... And uses single ended triode amplifiers;?.. And listens to everything in a different room? ;-) -- *Laugh alone and the world thinks you're an idiot. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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