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Kalarama April 12th 09 06:42 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/

--
PLEASE don't name your children Oglethorpe or Gladiola.. or even Boothby or
Hedwig..



CLicker[_2_] April 12th 09 07:00 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 

"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


The only way to have "no black bars" on ANY TV is to exclusively
play material which us in the same aspect ratio as the screen.



Jer April 12th 09 07:48 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
CLicker wrote:
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


The only way to have "no black bars" on ANY TV is to exclusively
play material which us in the same aspect ratio as the screen.




Another methodology would be to have a product that offered variable
horizontal and vertical stretch functions, but then again, anything
other than OAR would still look stupid.

Death to stretch-o-vision

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

Kalarama April 12th 09 09:51 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"CLicker" wrote in message
...

"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


The only way to have "no black bars" on ANY TV is to exclusively play
material which us in the same aspect ratio as the screen.



I think the alliteration in the heading is more fun.



BigBoy April 12th 09 10:00 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
Kalarama wrote:
"CLicker" wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/

The only way to have "no black bars" on ANY TV is to exclusively play
material which us in the same aspect ratio as the screen.



I think the alliteration in the heading is more fun.


In that case, it would read better as : Bad boy boob-tube bans black bars

Kalarama April 13th 09 12:13 AM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"BigBoy" wrote
I think the alliteration in the heading is more fun.

In that case, it would read better as : Bad boy boob-tube bans black bars


heh.. don't get me started.. :)



Kishin[_3_] April 13th 09 04:34 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


Content with an aspect ratio of LESS than 2.35:1 (including 1.85:1 movies,
16x9 TV shows and 4:3 TV shows) will have black bars on the side. Get used
to it.

--

Kishin



Kalarama April 13th 09 07:53 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kishin" wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


Content with an aspect ratio of LESS than 2.35:1 (including 1.85:1 movies,
16x9 TV shows and 4:3 TV shows) will have black bars on the side. Get used
to it.

--

Kishin




Used to what?

Letterboxes or pillarboxes don't bother me that much, but if they do, I
zoom.


--
PLEASE don't name your children Oglethorpe or Gladiola..



Agent_C April 14th 09 02:29 AM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:53:22 -0400, "Kalarama"
wrote:

[...] but if they do, I zoom.


Philistine!!!

A_C

Kalarama April 14th 09 01:41 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
LOL :)

--
PLEASE don't name your children Oglethorpe or Gladiola..
"Agent_C" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:53:22 -0400, "Kalarama"
wrote:

[...] but if they do, I zoom.


Philistine!!!

A_C




Richard C. April 16th 09 04:26 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/

--

==================================
Of COURSE there will be black bars!

On 1.33:1 and 1.85:1 movies there will be vertical black bars.

===================================


Richard C. April 16th 09 04:27 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
"CLicker" wrote in message
...

"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


The only way to have "no black bars" on ANY TV is to exclusively play
material which us in the same aspect ratio as the screen.



I think the alliteration in the heading is more fun.

===============================
Lying is fun?


Richard C. April 16th 09 04:28 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
"Kishin" wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


Content with an aspect ratio of LESS than 2.35:1 (including 1.85:1
movies, 16x9 TV shows and 4:3 TV shows) will have black bars on the side.
Get used to it.

--

Kishin




Used to what?

Letterboxes or pillarboxes don't bother me that much, but if they do, I
zoom.

================================
The ignorati will always hate OAR!


Kalarama April 16th 09 07:57 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Richard C." wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
"Kishin" wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/

Content with an aspect ratio of LESS than 2.35:1 (including 1.85:1
movies, 16x9 TV shows and 4:3 TV shows) will have black bars on the
side. Get used to it.
Kishin


Used to what?

Letterboxes or pillarboxes don't bother me that much, but if they do, I
zoom.

================================
The ignorati will always hate OAR!



Yup, that's me, hate-hate-hating ignoramuth.

Actually, quite far from being ignorant, [or hateful] having designed my
first home theater in 1974 [16mm film, an arc-light source for awhile, with
the projector in an attic sound-booth].

Had a 1,000 watt quad-amped sound system to go along with it.

So, nowadays in our front projector [marantz VP-11] room here in the main
[cellar] theater, when a 2.35:1 AR is shown, the 8' wide image can still
seem a tad small. The seats are on casters, so I simply move the seats a
little closer. No need to zoom there at all.

Upstairs is the new 52" LCD in the den [for more casual viewing], where the
lazy-boys are on heavy carpet, so.... I'll [GASP!!] zoom the image sometimes
if I feel like it.

I mean, really, who cares?



Kalarama April 16th 09 08:13 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Richard C." wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/

--

==================================
Of COURSE there will be black bars!

On 1.33:1 and 1.85:1 movies there will be vertical black bars.


Yes, this was thoroughly disclosed at the recent ararn.org symposium.






-





-



(ararn: anal retentive aspect ratio nazis)

--
PLEASE don't name your children Oglethorpe or Gladiola..



Jer April 17th 09 01:12 AM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
ASCII wrote:
Kalarama wrote:
I mean, really, who cares?


Just another excuse to thump your chest
and detail how kewl your setup is eh?

Seems there is in A/V (HDTV) as in other technical hobbies,
the relentless pursuit of one upmanship, with the haves trying to stay
ahead of the have nots seeking to catch up. It's finessing this rat race
that drives the manufacturers to ever more exotic sizes and their
non-standard aspect ratios, so that what to do with the extra space has
content producers wondering is my offering going to be classified as an
obsolete format upon release.
~round 'n round we go~




But manufacturers don't determine aspect ratios, program directors do.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

rjn April 17th 09 02:08 AM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kalarama" wrote:

ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


Philips is now redirecting the 21:9 site to their main,
at http://snipurl.com/g1xxu.

And there are still black bars, on the side for much
material, even though Philips is stretching the image,
and claiming not to. Designed to annoy everyone.

The a/r problem will never go away, unless someone
invents a time machine, and goes back and has a
LONG talk with William Kennedy Laurie Dickson.
Had he picked an a/r near 2:1 (or just 3 perf pulldown),
it's possible that the vast majority of movies would
have been made that way from day one, and TV
would have been wide from the outset.

--
Regards, Bob Niland
http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.

Kalarama April 17th 09 01:50 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"rjn" wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote:

ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/


Philips is now redirecting the 21:9 site to their main,
at http://snipurl.com/g1xxu.

And there are still black bars, on the side for much
material, even though Philips is stretching the image,
and claiming not to. Designed to annoy everyone.

==========================================

I guess my heading might have read "No better", um, I mean "no *letter* box
bars . . . ".
Pillar [side] boxes are a given on all current widescreen displays for older
material.

============================================

The a/r problem will never go away, unless someone
invents a time machine, and goes back and has a
LONG talk with William Kennedy Laurie Dickson.
Had he picked an a/r near 2:1 (or just 3 perf pulldown),
it's possible that the vast majority of movies would
have been made that way from day one, and TV
would have been wide from the outset.

--
Regards, Bob Niland
http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.

==============================================

Was the Academy Ratio arrived at when Edison or Dickson just held up their
hands and
made the image with their fingers? I remember reading that somewhere a long
time ago, or is it an urban legend.


-Kal A. Rama





LightByrd April 17th 09 03:39 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
| "rjn" wrote in message
| ...
| "Kalarama" wrote:
|
| ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips
| http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/
|
| Philips is now redirecting the 21:9 site to their main,
| at http://snipurl.com/g1xxu.
|
| And there are still black bars, on the side for much
| material, even though Philips is stretching the image,
| and claiming not to. Designed to annoy everyone.
| ==========================================
|
| I guess my heading might have read "No better", um, I mean "no *letter*
box
| bars . . . ".
| Pillar [side] boxes are a given on all current widescreen displays for
older
| material.
|
| ============================================
|
| The a/r problem will never go away, unless someone
| invents a time machine, and goes back and has a
| LONG talk with William Kennedy Laurie Dickson.
| Had he picked an a/r near 2:1 (or just 3 perf pulldown),
| it's possible that the vast majority of movies would
| have been made that way from day one, and TV
| would have been wide from the outset.
|
| --
| Regards, Bob Niland
| http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
| NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.
| ==============================================
|
| Was the Academy Ratio arrived at when Edison or Dickson just held up their
| hands and
| made the image with their fingers? I remember reading that somewhere a
long
| time ago, or is it an urban legend.
|
|
| -Kal A. Rama


I'd love to see what a 1:33 OAR looks like on a zoomed 21:9 :)

--
Regards,
Richard Harison



Richard C. April 21st 09 04:10 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...

I mean, really, who cares?

==============================
When the only version available is butchered to fit someone's screen, it is
worth caring about.

Pillow Book has NEVER been released properly anywhere (for example).


Richard C. April 21st 09 04:11 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"LightByrd" wrote in message
...
"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
| "rjn" wrote in message
|
...
| "Kalarama" wrote:
|
| ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips
| http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/
|
| Philips is now redirecting the 21:9 site to their main,
| at http://snipurl.com/g1xxu.
|
| And there are still black bars, on the side for much
| material, even though Philips is stretching the image,
| and claiming not to. Designed to annoy everyone.
| ==========================================
|
| I guess my heading might have read "No better", um, I mean "no *letter*
box
| bars . . . ".
| Pillar [side] boxes are a given on all current widescreen displays for
older
| material.
|
| ============================================
|
| The a/r problem will never go away, unless someone
| invents a time machine, and goes back and has a
| LONG talk with William Kennedy Laurie Dickson.
| Had he picked an a/r near 2:1 (or just 3 perf pulldown),
| it's possible that the vast majority of movies would
| have been made that way from day one, and TV
| would have been wide from the outset.
|
| --
| Regards, Bob Niland
| http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
| NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.
| ==============================================
|
| Was the Academy Ratio arrived at when Edison or Dickson just held up
their
| hands and
| made the image with their fingers? I remember reading that somewhere a
long
| time ago, or is it an urban legend.
|
|
| -Kal A. Rama


I'd love to see what a 1:33 OAR looks like on a zoomed 21:9 :)

--
Regards,
Richard Harison

============================
I think there will be many people who do that and not care at all.........


LightByrd April 21st 09 04:24 PM

No black bars on this bad boy
 
"Richard C." wrote in message
...
| "LightByrd" wrote in message
| ...
| "Kalarama" wrote in message
| ...
| | "rjn" wrote in message
| |
|
...
| | "Kalarama" wrote:
| |
| | ULTRA-wide LCD by Philips
| | http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/ultima...ultrawide_lcd/
| |
| | Philips is now redirecting the 21:9 site to their main,
| | at http://snipurl.com/g1xxu.
| |
| | And there are still black bars, on the side for much
| | material, even though Philips is stretching the image,
| | and claiming not to. Designed to annoy everyone.
| | ==========================================
| |
| | I guess my heading might have read "No better", um, I mean "no
*letter*
| box
| | bars . . . ".
| | Pillar [side] boxes are a given on all current widescreen displays for
| older
| | material.
| |
| | ============================================
| |
| | The a/r problem will never go away, unless someone
| | invents a time machine, and goes back and has a
| | LONG talk with William Kennedy Laurie Dickson.
| | Had he picked an a/r near 2:1 (or just 3 perf pulldown),
| | it's possible that the vast majority of movies would
| | have been made that way from day one, and TV
| | would have been wide from the outset.
| |
| | --
| | Regards, Bob Niland
| | http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
| | NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.
| | ==============================================
| |
| | Was the Academy Ratio arrived at when Edison or Dickson just held up
| their
| | hands and
| | made the image with their fingers? I remember reading that somewhere a
| long
| | time ago, or is it an urban legend.
| |
| |
| | -Kal A. Rama
|
|
| I'd love to see what a 1:33 OAR looks like on a zoomed 21:9 :)
|
| --
| Regards,
| Richard Harison
|
| ============================
| I think there will be many people who do that and not care at all.........

Just think how big Cyrano's nose would be!

--
Regards,
Richard Harison
|




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