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Stephen Wolstenholme March 19th 09 02:58 PM

Multi channel record
 
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com

[email protected] March 19th 09 03:07 PM

Multi channel record
 
On Mar 19, 1:58*pm, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. *What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd * * * * * * * * *http://www..NPSL1.com


What kind of recording device is the HDD contained within?

André Coutanche March 19th 09 03:12 PM

Multi channel record
 
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. What is the recommended method?


A dual-tuner PVR. The Humax is commonly reckoned to be the easiest to use
out of the box; the Topfield is arguably better once you've got to grips
with it and customised it with TAPs (user-written add-ons which do all sorts
of things, some of which you never knew you needed, and others of which you
*don't* need ;-) ). For more information about the Topfield (including which
models to avoid), see www.toppy.org.uk. Others will no doubt supply further
details about the Humax.

André Coutanche

P.S. And don't get rid of your existing HDD recording system. The time will
come when you want to record three things at once.



Tom E March 19th 09 03:56 PM

Multi channel record
 

"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message
...
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com


Humax HDR 320Gb. With its 2 tuners you can record both at once and, under
certain circumstances, view a 3rd while the others are being recorded. I
have not found out how yet.

The only drawbacks with the Humax is that you cannot edit the recorded data.
ie remove adds or breaks or save to a DVD. Also BBC HD appears to be (is in
the main) encrypted so progs cannot be saved to an external HDD.

Otherwise a very nice unit, once you are familiar with the controls.



Stephen Wolstenholme March 19th 09 04:00 PM

Multi channel record
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:07:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 19, 1:58*pm, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. *What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd * * * * * * * * *
http://www.NPSL1.com

What kind of recording device is the HDD contained within?


The main one is in a Panasonic DMR-EX768EB but I have numerous other
portable USB HDDs used with PCs. I don't really expect to use my
present TV setup. I'm interested to know how other people have solved
the problem. Is there a home based multi channel recorder?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com

[email protected] March 19th 09 04:01 PM

Multi channel record
 
On 19 Mar, 13:58, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time.
What is the recommended method?


If you happen to be subscribed to broadband from BT, then consider BT
vision (just don't get lumbered with a monthly subscription)

Peter Duncanson March 19th 09 04:52 PM

Multi channel record
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:56:19 -0000, "Tom E" wrote:


"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message
.. .
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com


Humax HDR 320Gb. With its 2 tuners you can record both at once and, under
certain circumstances, view a 3rd while the others are being recorded. I
have not found out how yet.


To view a prog while two others are being recorded just select the
program you want to view in the normal way (List or Guide). If it is not
available (not on one of the transponders the box is recording from) you
will be told.

The only drawbacks with the Humax is that you cannot edit the recorded data.
ie remove adds or breaks or save to a DVD. Also BBC HD appears to be (is in
the main) encrypted so progs cannot be saved to an external HDD.

Otherwise a very nice unit, once you are familiar with the controls.

Potential confusion here!

The Humax (FOXSAT) HDR 320Gb is a Freesat box that needs a satellite
dish with two antenna cables to the box to be able to record two progs
simultaneously.

The Humax PVR mentioned by André Coutanche is a Freeview box that uses
the signal from a standard TV aerial.

I have one of each on a single TV.

If I have a real need to edit a recorded programme I will copy it to a
PC and use VideoReDo to do what I want. I can then either burn it to a
DVD, watch it on the PC screen or connect the PC to a TV and watch it on
that.

As you say, the Humax HDR will not copy BBC HD programmes to an external
HDD (or other USB storage thingie).

chunkyoldcortina March 19th 09 05:31 PM

Multi channel record
 
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:07:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 19, 1:58 pm, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd
http://www.NPSL1.com
What kind of recording device is the HDD contained within?


The main one is in a Panasonic DMR-EX768EB but I have numerous other
portable USB HDDs used with PCs. I don't really expect to use my
present TV setup. I'm interested to know how other people have solved
the problem. Is there a home based multi channel recorder?


Sky+

Robby March 19th 09 05:31 PM

Multi channel record
 
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:58:47 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At the
moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want to get
rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels to HDD at
the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD recorders.
What is the recommended method?

Steve


I have to say I don't know much about stand alone home HHD recorders as I
haven't got one, however I do have a DVB-T card in my computer. I use a
program called kaffeine under linux to record which has the ability to
record every channel at the same time which is on the same multiplex. The
particular card I have (Nova-T 500) has two tunners, so I can record 2
different multiplexes, For e.g. ..

BBC 1
BBC 2
BBC 3
BBC News
ITV 1
ITV 2
ITV 3
ITV 4
Ch 4
Ch 4+1
E4
More 4

All these channels I can record at the same time.

Tom E March 19th 09 06:56 PM

Multi channel record
 

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:56:19 -0000, "Tom E" wrote:


"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message
. ..
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com


Humax HDR 320Gb. With its 2 tuners you can record both at once and, under
certain circumstances, view a 3rd while the others are being recorded. I
have not found out how yet.


To view a prog while two others are being recorded just select the
program you want to view in the normal way (List or Guide). If it is not
available (not on one of the transponders the box is recording from) you
will be told.

The only drawbacks with the Humax is that you cannot edit the recorded
data.
ie remove adds or breaks or save to a DVD. Also BBC HD appears to be (is
in
the main) encrypted so progs cannot be saved to an external HDD.

Otherwise a very nice unit, once you are familiar with the controls.

Potential confusion here!

The Humax (FOXSAT) HDR 320Gb is a Freesat box that needs a satellite
dish with two antenna cables to the box to be able to record two progs
simultaneously.

The Humax PVR mentioned by André Coutanche is a Freeview box that uses
the signal from a standard TV aerial.

I have one of each on a single TV.

If I have a real need to edit a recorded programme I will copy it to a
PC and use VideoReDo to do what I want. I can then either burn it to a
DVD, watch it on the PC screen or connect the PC to a TV and watch it on
that.

As you say, the Humax HDR will not copy BBC HD programmes to an external
HDD (or other USB storage thingie).


ooopssssss, yes sorry, my error.



critcher[_2_] March 19th 09 08:05 PM

Multi channel record
 

"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message
...
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd http://www.NPSL1.com






critcher said..............................
go to asda and buy top up thomson dvr with 160 gig HD and dual tuners.
Reconditioned now £50-00 with 6 month guarantee.
The disk is a seagate made for dv recorders.
You dont have to use the top up, just use the recorder for all freeview
channels.



widgitt March 20th 09 12:41 AM

Multi channel record
 


critcher said..............................
go to asda and buy top up thomson dvr with 160 gig HD and dual tuners.
Reconditioned now £50-00 with 6 month guarantee.
The disk is a seagate made for dv recorders.
You dont have to use the top up, just use the recorder for all freeview
channels.


You could ask why the Thomson needed reconditioning in the first
place! (Thomson Sky+ boxes seem to have very poor power supply
reliability.)
Go and buy a Humax for day-to-day ease of use. Some will say Topfield.

By the way, for someone who mentioned it...If the Humax is recording
two things at once, press the OK or LIST button to see which other
channels can still be watched at the same time. The ones available
will be in bright blue, the unavailable ones will be greyed out.


Doctor D March 20th 09 08:29 AM

Multi channel record
 

Humax HDR 320Gb. With its 2 tuners you can record both at once and, under
certain circumstances, view a 3rd while the others are being recorded. I
have not found out how yet.

The only drawbacks with the Humax is that you cannot edit the recorded
data. ie remove adds or breaks or save to a DVD. Also BBC HD appears to be
(is in the main) encrypted so progs cannot be saved to an external HDD.

Otherwise a very nice unit, once you are familiar with the controls.



Humax are also appalling for customer service. Forget any back up or advice.
I've got a problem with the software on my 2 year old Humax DVB TV and I've
emailed, faxed and written to them. Not even an acknowledgment. Sufficient
to say I won't buy anything else by Humax.


Tom E March 20th 09 08:55 AM

Multi channel record
 

"Doctor D" wrote in message
et...

Humax HDR 320Gb. With its 2 tuners you can record both at once and, under
certain circumstances, view a 3rd while the others are being recorded. I
have not found out how yet.

The only drawbacks with the Humax is that you cannot edit the recorded
data. ie remove adds or breaks or save to a DVD. Also BBC HD appears to
be (is in the main) encrypted so progs cannot be saved to an external
HDD.

Otherwise a very nice unit, once you are familiar with the controls.



Humax are also appalling for customer service. Forget any back up or
advice. I've got a problem with the software on my 2 year old Humax DVB TV
and I've emailed, faxed and written to them. Not even an acknowledgment.
Sufficient to say I won't buy anything else by Humax.


I have sent 2 questions to their CS, the first was replied to in 15 minutes
and the second, a more technical aspect, about 3 hours..............

If this is of any help, I used support1 at humaxdigital dot com



Dr Zoidberg[_4_] March 20th 09 09:13 AM

Multi channel record
 
"Doctor D" wrote in message et...

Humax HDR 320Gb. With its 2 tuners you can record both at once and, under
certain circumstances, view a 3rd while the others are being recorded. I
have not found out how yet.

The only drawbacks with the Humax is that you cannot edit the recorded
data. ie remove adds or breaks or save to a DVD. Also BBC HD appears to be
(is in the main) encrypted so progs cannot be saved to an external HDD.

Otherwise a very nice unit, once you are familiar with the controls.



Humax are also appalling for customer service. Forget any back up or advice.


No they aren't.
I had a problem with my PVR 9200 and when I phoned them up they asked me to run some tests then sent a replacement unit out by courier and collected the faulty one at the same time.
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

[email protected] March 20th 09 04:08 PM

Multi channel record
 
On 19 Mar, 13:58, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:
Occasionally we want to record two TV channels at the same time. At
the moment we record one channel to HDD and the other to VCR. We want
to get rid of the VCR and so need a method of recording two channels
to HDD at the same time. We don't want to use two separate HDD/DVD
recorders. *What is the recommended method?

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd * * * * * * * * *http://www..NPSL1.com


Very straightforward! You need a PVR like the Top Up TV one which
comes with a built-in HDD and two tuners, so that you can record two
channels simultaneously, if needed, and watch a recording too!

John

critcher[_2_] March 20th 09 10:11 PM

Multi channel record
 

"widgitt" wrote in message
...


critcher said..............................
go to asda and buy top up thomson dvr with 160 gig HD and dual tuners.
Reconditioned now £50-00 with 6 month guarantee.
The disk is a seagate made for dv recorders.
You dont have to use the top up, just use the recorder for all freeview
channels.


You could ask why the Thomson needed reconditioning in the first
place! (Thomson Sky+ boxes seem to have very poor power supply
reliability.)
Go and buy a Humax for day-to-day ease of use. Some will say Topfield.

critcher said.........................
you only have to realise they did recondition, for £50-00 you cannot go
wrong.
the disc is worth £40-00.
It is guaranteed for 6 months, as far as noise is concerned I have
disconnected the fan and have had
no problems with overheating or pixelation.
I do live in a very good reception area.



Graham.[_3_] March 20th 09 11:02 PM

Multi channel record
 

"widgitt" wrote in message
...


critcher said..............................
go to asda and buy top up thomson dvr with 160 gig HD and dual tuners.
Reconditioned now £50-00 with 6 month guarantee.
The disk is a seagate made for dv recorders.
You dont have to use the top up, just use the recorder for all freeview
channels.


You could ask why the Thomson needed reconditioning in the first
place! (Thomson Sky+ boxes seem to have very poor power supply
reliability.)

The reconditioned ones will probably be customer returns that have
tested OK. (the original owners probably just had poor reception)

The Supermarkets would sell these in bulk to dealers, they often
come up on ebay, I got my Vestel that way.
It looks like ASDA is reselling these Thompsons themselves
then?


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%



widgitt March 21st 09 12:26 AM

Multi channel record
 
I have arranged for Humax guarantee service to be put into action a
number of times and I have found them to be helpful and efficient.
Replacement items have been dispatched direct to the users and the
faulty ones collected at the same time.
An efficient service, so long as the correct procedure is followed
with the repair dept.



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