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[email protected] February 13th 09 11:23 PM

1080i?
 
On Feb 13, 3:17*pm, "The dog from that film you saw"
wrote:
wrote in message

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"The dog from that film you saw" wrote:


the only sets that can show 1080i as 1080i are CRT sets - and nobody
wants those.
you may have saw sets that took a 1080i input - but displayed it as
something else.


Really? So my Mitsubishi 1080p set,
when given a 1080i signal, doesn't
show it as 1080i? What then?


it turns it into 1080p ( not that it magically becomes 1080p quality ) -
your set is a progressive device - it doesn't do interlaced - any interlaced
inputs get turned progressive.

--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


This makes no sense to me.

The dog from that film you saw February 13th 09 11:50 PM

1080i?
 

" wrote in message
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Really? So my Mitsubishi 1080p set,
when given a 1080i signal, doesn't
show it as 1080i? What then?


it turns it into 1080p ( not that it magically becomes 1080p quality ) -
your set is a progressive device - it doesn't do interlaced - any
interlaced
inputs get turned progressive.




This makes no sense to me.





plasma and lcd screens are progressive devices.
they de-interlace any interlaced signal fed to them and scale it to the
resolution of the panel before displaying.
that's as simple as it gets.




--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


Bob Miller February 14th 09 04:38 AM

1080i?
 
wrote:
On Feb 13, 9:46 am, Anthona wrote:
I have heard of hd resolutions of 720, 1080p and now my lcd info shows
1080i. This is confusing...reminds one of ordering a coke.."do u want
a small drink, medium, large or jumbo...is this what HD is coming to?
another gimmick?


Actually, this is old. 2-3 years ago you saw a lot of sets advertised
w/ 1080i, & many of them got good reviews. But for some reason they
disappeared almost entirely.



Rear projection 1080i CRTs mostly. Plasma and LCD tech took over with
fixed pixels which lend themselves to progressive.

Bob Miller

L Alpert February 14th 09 03:19 PM

1080i?
 

"Mark A" wrote in message
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"Richard Harison" wrote in message
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1080i is the interlaced flavor of 1080
Odd lines are scanned, then even every 1/60 second for a "new"
picture every
1/30th.
The knowledgeables in this NG suggest that nobody is transmitting
in 1080P
(unlike Blu-Ray) and it is your set that eventually converts the
signal to
1080p

--
Regards,
Richard


In the USA, 720p is used by ABC, Fox Broadcasting Company and ESPN
because the smoother image is desirable for fast-action sports
telecasts, whereas 1080i is used by CBS, NBC, HBO, Showtime and
Discovery HD due to the crisper picture particularly in non-moving
shots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p

As mentioned you can get 1080P on blue-ray DVD but it is not used
for broadcast TV in the US.


Even when on Blu-ray, is actually recorded in 1080p, or is it upscaled
to progressive scan output just like the original 480p DVD units?





L Alpert February 14th 09 03:20 PM

1080i?
 

"Ricky Jimenez" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:36:43 -0500, "Mark A"
wrote:

"Richard Harison" wrote in message
om...
1080i is the interlaced flavor of 1080
Odd lines are scanned, then even every 1/60 second for a "new"
picture
every
1/30th.
The knowledgeables in this NG suggest that nobody is transmitting
in 1080P
(unlike Blu-Ray) and it is your set that eventually converts the
signal to
1080p

--
Regards,
Richard


In the USA, 720p is used by ABC, Fox Broadcasting Company and ESPN
because
the smoother image is desirable for fast-action sports telecasts,
whereas
1080i is used by CBS, NBC, HBO, Showtime and Discovery HD due to the
crisper
picture particularly in non-moving shots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p

As mentioned you can get 1080P on blue-ray DVD but it is not used
for
broadcast TV in the US.

And how strong are the claims that you can tell the differerence
between 1080i and 1080p? Is more likely on a 70" or greater sized
display?


Hard to tell if the display upscales all inputs to 1080p (as my 70+"
unit does!).



Jan B February 14th 09 04:39 PM

1080i?
 
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:19:21 -0500, "L Alpert"
wrote:


"Mark A" wrote in message
.. .
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
1080i is the interlaced flavor of 1080
Odd lines are scanned, then even every 1/60 second for a "new"
picture every
1/30th.
The knowledgeables in this NG suggest that nobody is transmitting
in 1080P
(unlike Blu-Ray) and it is your set that eventually converts the
signal to
1080p

--
Regards,
Richard


In the USA, 720p is used by ABC, Fox Broadcasting Company and ESPN
because the smoother image is desirable for fast-action sports
telecasts, whereas 1080i is used by CBS, NBC, HBO, Showtime and
Discovery HD due to the crisper picture particularly in non-moving
shots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p

As mentioned you can get 1080P on blue-ray DVD but it is not used
for broadcast TV in the US.


Even when on Blu-ray, is actually recorded in 1080p, or is it upscaled
to progressive scan output just like the original 480p DVD units?


The Blu-ray discs I have are stored either in 1080p/24 or 1080i/60.
That is, progressive in 24Hz or interlaced with half frames in 60 Hz.
/Jan

The dog from that film you saw February 14th 09 04:57 PM

1080i?
 

"Jan B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:19:21 -0500, "L Alpert"




In the USA, 720p is used by ABC, Fox Broadcasting Company and ESPN
because the smoother image is desirable for fast-action sports
telecasts, whereas 1080i is used by CBS, NBC, HBO, Showtime and
Discovery HD due to the crisper picture particularly in non-moving
shots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p

As mentioned you can get 1080P on blue-ray DVD but it is not used
for broadcast TV in the US.


Even when on Blu-ray, is actually recorded in 1080p, or is it upscaled
to progressive scan output just like the original 480p DVD units?


The Blu-ray discs I have are stored either in 1080p/24 or 1080i/60.
That is, progressive in 24Hz or interlaced with half frames in 60 Hz.
/Jan







does the blu ray spec allow for 1080p at 60fps ? - would be useful for discs
of sporting events.



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


Thumper February 14th 09 05:37 PM

1080i?
 
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:56:58 -0000, "The dog from that film you saw"
wrote:


"Richard Harison" wrote in message
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| the only sets that can show 1080i as 1080i are CRT sets - and nobody
wants
| those.
| you may have saw sets that took a 1080i input - but displayed it as
| something else.
|




Nobody?
I am very happy with my Sony 30XS955
CRTs are still the gold standard for blacks/contrast ratio, though newer
flat screens are catching up.
I am also very happy with it because I don't plan on moving it!






when i say nobody, i mean the shops dont want to stock them , and if they
did, most people would rather have a large flat, hang on the wall device.



Too bad. In large screens the price is frequently 1/2 of an LCD for a
dlp. I love mine and don't see why people want to hang a tv on the
wall.
Thumper

Thumper February 14th 09 05:38 PM

1080i?
 
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:50:35 -0000, "The dog from that film you saw"
wrote:


" wrote in message
...



Really? So my Mitsubishi 1080p set,
when given a 1080i signal, doesn't
show it as 1080i? What then?


it turns it into 1080p ( not that it magically becomes 1080p quality ) -
your set is a progressive device - it doesn't do interlaced - any
interlaced
inputs get turned progressive.




This makes no sense to me.





plasma and lcd screens are progressive devices.
they de-interlace any interlaced signal fed to them and scale it to the
resolution of the panel before displaying.
that's as simple as it gets.


Only the newer ones.
Thumper

L Alpert February 14th 09 06:24 PM

1080i?
 

"Jan B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:19:21 -0500, "L Alpert"
wrote:


"Mark A" wrote in message
. ..
"Richard Harison" wrote in message
...
1080i is the interlaced flavor of 1080
Odd lines are scanned, then even every 1/60 second for a "new"
picture every
1/30th.
The knowledgeables in this NG suggest that nobody is transmitting
in 1080P
(unlike Blu-Ray) and it is your set that eventually converts the
signal to
1080p

--
Regards,
Richard

In the USA, 720p is used by ABC, Fox Broadcasting Company and ESPN
because the smoother image is desirable for fast-action sports
telecasts, whereas 1080i is used by CBS, NBC, HBO, Showtime and
Discovery HD due to the crisper picture particularly in non-moving
shots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p

As mentioned you can get 1080P on blue-ray DVD but it is not used
for broadcast TV in the US.


Even when on Blu-ray, is actually recorded in 1080p, or is it
upscaled
to progressive scan output just like the original 480p DVD units?


The Blu-ray discs I have are stored either in 1080p/24 or 1080i/60.
That is, progressive in 24Hz or interlaced with half frames in 60
Hz.
/Jan


Which would mean any 1080p @ 60FPS would be upscaled to progressive
scan. Most newer HDTV's do this anyway. The advertising for
delivering 1080p via cable/satellite/Blu-ray seems to be mostly sales
hype.




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