HDMI and 100hz TV ?
 

UCLAN wrote:
Naked Gonad wrote:

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a
category 2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on
any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it
says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just an
inferior one.

You are confusing frame rate with data transfer rate. Category 1 HDMI
cables
have a DATA TRANSFER rate of 75 MHz (74.5 MHz), which is fine for
1080i/720p.
Category 2 cables are rated at 340 MHz, which is good up to 1600p.
For 1080p
rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use a Category 2 cable.

HDMI cable categories have NOTHING to do with the monitor's refresh or
frame rate. [Beside which, Category 1's 75 MHz rate is *MUCH* higher
than
the 100 Hz you quote. Read more carefully.]

I appreciate your replies but remember I need it in laymans language.
My tv states that it is 1080p.I noticed that you didn't include 1080p
using cat 1 cable in the data transfer rate.I don't know the difference
between 1080i and 1080p.So the bottom line is, can I assume that even
if I have a cat 1(which I don't know), will it be ok on 1080p (TV?
reception that is).

Please note above where I wrote: "For 1080p rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use
a Category 2 cable. That being said, a Category 1 cable *might* work
just fine at 340 MHz. It was only *tested* for 74.5 MHz, that's all.

As for TV reception, there are NO 1080p broadcasts in the U.S. (Don't know
about the UK.) Only a few DBS MPEG4 signals. Normally, no HDMI cable is
used
for plain television reception. It's just your antenna and your TV. HDMI
cables are used to connect other devices - DVD/BD players, DVRs, etc. - to
your TV. If you want 1080p performance (100% of the time), use a Category 2
cable.


Thanks.
I'm in the UK and I have a sat receiver connected by HDMI to the TV.
I get excellent digital reception (FREEsat)but the difference when
viewing HD progs,although clearer and more detailed etc,it's not the
stunning definition I was expecting from high def, or am I expecting too
much?

HDMI and 100hz TV ?
 

Naked Gonad wrote:
UCLAN wrote:
Naked Gonad wrote:

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a
category 2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on
any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it
says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just
an inferior one.

You are confusing frame rate with data transfer rate. Category 1
HDMI cables
have a DATA TRANSFER rate of 75 MHz (74.5 MHz), which is fine for
1080i/720p.
Category 2 cables are rated at 340 MHz, which is good up to 1600p.
For 1080p
rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use a Category 2 cable.

HDMI cable categories have NOTHING to do with the monitor's refresh or
frame rate. [Beside which, Category 1's 75 MHz rate is *MUCH* higher
than
the 100 Hz you quote. Read more carefully.]

I appreciate your replies but remember I need it in laymans language.
My tv states that it is 1080p.I noticed that you didn't include 1080p
using cat 1 cable in the data transfer rate.I don't know the difference
between 1080i and 1080p.So the bottom line is, can I assume that even
if I have a cat 1(which I don't know), will it be ok on 1080p (TV?
reception that is).

Please note above where I wrote: "For 1080p rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use
a Category 2 cable. That being said, a Category 1 cable *might* work
just fine at 340 MHz. It was only *tested* for 74.5 MHz, that's all.

As for TV reception, there are NO 1080p broadcasts in the U.S. (Don't
know
about the UK.) Only a few DBS MPEG4 signals. Normally, no HDMI cable
is used
for plain television reception. It's just your antenna and your TV. HDMI
cables are used to connect other devices - DVD/BD players, DVRs, etc.
- to
your TV. If you want 1080p performance (100% of the time), use a
Category 2
cable.


Thanks.
I'm in the UK and I have a sat receiver connected by HDMI to the TV.
I get excellent digital reception (FREEsat)but the difference when
viewing HD progs,although clearer and more detailed etc,it's not the
stunning definition I was expecting from high def, or am I expecting too
much?

I copied this clip from the specs in the manual.
I hope this explains what I mean when I mention 100hz:

As well as Full HD 1080p resolution, the RV Series gets the best from HD
content by using 100Hz Picture Processing which virtually eliminates
motion blur often associated with fast moving sports action with its 24
frames-per-second display

HDMI and 100hz TV ?
 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:02:27 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

Naked Gonad wrote:
UCLAN wrote:
Naked Gonad wrote:

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a
category 2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on
any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it
says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just
an inferior one.

You are confusing frame rate with data transfer rate. Category 1
HDMI cables
have a DATA TRANSFER rate of 75 MHz (74.5 MHz), which is fine for
1080i/720p.
Category 2 cables are rated at 340 MHz, which is good up to 1600p.
For 1080p
rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use a Category 2 cable.

HDMI cable categories have NOTHING to do with the monitor's refresh or
frame rate. [Beside which, Category 1's 75 MHz rate is *MUCH* higher
than
the 100 Hz you quote. Read more carefully.]

I appreciate your replies but remember I need it in laymans language.
My tv states that it is 1080p.I noticed that you didn't include 1080p
using cat 1 cable in the data transfer rate.I don't know the difference
between 1080i and 1080p.So the bottom line is, can I assume that even
if I have a cat 1(which I don't know), will it be ok on 1080p (TV?
reception that is).

Please note above where I wrote: "For 1080p rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use
a Category 2 cable. That being said, a Category 1 cable *might* work
just fine at 340 MHz. It was only *tested* for 74.5 MHz, that's all.

As for TV reception, there are NO 1080p broadcasts in the U.S. (Don't
know
about the UK.) Only a few DBS MPEG4 signals. Normally, no HDMI cable
is used
for plain television reception. It's just your antenna and your TV. HDMI
cables are used to connect other devices - DVD/BD players, DVRs, etc.
- to
your TV. If you want 1080p performance (100% of the time), use a
Category 2
cable.


Thanks.
I'm in the UK and I have a sat receiver connected by HDMI to the TV.
I get excellent digital reception (FREEsat)but the difference when
viewing HD progs,although clearer and more detailed etc,it's not the
stunning definition I was expecting from high def, or am I expecting too
much?

I copied this clip from the specs in the manual.
I hope this explains what I mean when I mention 100hz:

As well as Full HD 1080p resolution, the RV Series gets the best from HD
content by using 100Hz Picture Processing which virtually eliminates
motion blur often associated with fast moving sports action with its 24
frames-per-second display

Yes, but as someone explained above, the upsampling to 100Hz frame
rate is done internal to the TV, not passed over the HDMI kable.

If the kable is marginal you will experience functional problems like
drop outs, no signal or colourful sparkles. It will not cause an
unsharp picture etc.

Check your HD-TV receiver if it can be set to "pass native resolution
through" or similar wording. If that is not available set it to 1080i
and select "Exact scan" on your Toshiba. Tune in a quality program
that transmitts in 1080i and see if that solves your problem. Also
check that the settings of MPEG filter and the DNR filter are OFF on
the input you use for HD as those settings have a memory for each
input. I believe the Sharpness setting should be at the lowest end
also for your Toshiba model.
Good luck.
/Jan

HDMI and 100hz TV ?
 

Jan B wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:02:27 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

Naked Gonad wrote:
UCLAN wrote:
Naked Gonad wrote:

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a
category 2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on
any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it
says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just
an inferior one.
You are confusing frame rate with data transfer rate. Category 1
HDMI cables
have a DATA TRANSFER rate of 75 MHz (74.5 MHz), which is fine for
1080i/720p.
Category 2 cables are rated at 340 MHz, which is good up to 1600p.
For 1080p
rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use a Category 2 cable.

HDMI cable categories have NOTHING to do with the monitor's refresh or
frame rate. [Beside which, Category 1's 75 MHz rate is *MUCH* higher
than
the 100 Hz you quote. Read more carefully.]
I appreciate your replies but remember I need it in laymans language.
My tv states that it is 1080p.I noticed that you didn't include 1080p
using cat 1 cable in the data transfer rate.I don't know the difference
between 1080i and 1080p.So the bottom line is, can I assume that even
if I have a cat 1(which I don't know), will it be ok on 1080p (TV?
reception that is).
Please note above where I wrote: "For 1080p rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use
a Category 2 cable. That being said, a Category 1 cable *might* work
just fine at 340 MHz. It was only *tested* for 74.5 MHz, that's all.

As for TV reception, there are NO 1080p broadcasts in the U.S. (Don't
know
about the UK.) Only a few DBS MPEG4 signals. Normally, no HDMI cable
is used
for plain television reception. It's just your antenna and your TV. HDMI
cables are used to connect other devices - DVD/BD players, DVRs, etc.
- to
your TV. If you want 1080p performance (100% of the time), use a
Category 2
cable.

Thanks.
I'm in the UK and I have a sat receiver connected by HDMI to the TV.
I get excellent digital reception (FREEsat)but the difference when
viewing HD progs,although clearer and more detailed etc,it's not the
stunning definition I was expecting from high def, or am I expecting too
much?
I copied this clip from the specs in the manual.
I hope this explains what I mean when I mention 100hz:

As well as Full HD 1080p resolution, the RV Series gets the best from HD
content by using 100Hz Picture Processing which virtually eliminates
motion blur often associated with fast moving sports action with its 24
frames-per-second display

Yes, but as someone explained above, the upsampling to 100Hz frame
rate is done internal to the TV, not passed over the HDMI kable.

If the kable is marginal you will experience functional problems like
drop outs, no signal or colourful sparkles. It will not cause an
unsharp picture etc.

Check your HD-TV receiver if it can be set to "pass native resolution
through" or similar wording. If that is not available set it to 1080i
and select "Exact scan" on your Toshiba. Tune in a quality program
that transmitts in 1080i and see if that solves your problem. Also
check that the settings of MPEG filter and the DNR filter are OFF on
the input you use for HD as those settings have a memory for each
input. I believe the Sharpness setting should be at the lowest end
also for your Toshiba model.
Good luck.
/Jan

Thankyou Sir for your trouble,explained very well.

HDMI and 100hz TV ?
 

Naked Gonad wrote:

Please note above where I wrote: "For 1080p rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use
a Category 2 cable. That being said, a Category 1 cable *might* work
just fine at 340 MHz. It was only *tested* for 74.5 MHz, that's all.

As for TV reception, there are NO 1080p broadcasts in the U.S. (Don't
know
about the UK.) Only a few DBS MPEG4 signals. Normally, no HDMI cable
is used
for plain television reception. It's just your antenna and your TV. HDMI
cables are used to connect other devices - DVD/BD players, DVRs, etc.
- to
your TV. If you want 1080p performance (100% of the time), use a
Category 2
cable.

Thanks.
I'm in the UK and I have a sat receiver connected by HDMI to the TV.
I get excellent digital reception (FREEsat)but the difference when
viewing HD progs,although clearer and more detailed etc,it's not the
stunning definition I was expecting from high def, or am I expecting too
much?

Without knowing anything about how FREEsat processes its HD signals, I
really couldn't say.

HDMI and 100hz TV ?
 

Naked Gonad wrote:

I copied this clip from the specs in the manual.
I hope this explains what I mean when I mention 100hz:

As well as Full HD 1080p resolution, the RV Series gets the best from HD
content by using 100Hz Picture Processing which virtually eliminates
motion blur often associated with fast moving sports action with its 24
frames-per-second display

That is frame rate. Not attected by HDMI cables in any way.

HDMI and 100hz TV ?
 

UCLAN wrote:
Naked Gonad wrote:

I copied this clip from the specs in the manual.
I hope this explains what I mean when I mention 100hz:

As well as Full HD 1080p resolution, the RV Series gets the best from
HD content by using 100Hz Picture Processing which virtually
eliminates motion blur often associated with fast moving sports action
with its 24 frames-per-second display

That is frame rate. Not attected by HDMI cables in any way.

Thanks.