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HDMI is slowly replacing the scart sockets on TV's and monitors but when are
we going to see any HD recorders with a hdmi in and outv sockets on them ?

Peter

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"Peter" wrote in message
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HDMI is slowly replacing the scart sockets on TV's and monitors but when
are
we going to see any HD recorders with a hdmi in and outv sockets on them ?

Peter


You will not see any legal ones..
HDMI's love was pushed because of HDCP.. many of the rules behind HDCP means
we will likely not see a recorder we can simply buy and put in the middle.
You can however buy dongles to do this now, but because of the way it is set
up it means we probably wont see any HDMI/HDCP input sockets on PVR's.
Componet can deliver just as well so it would be worth looking for componet
inputs.

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"Peter" wrote in message
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HDMI is slowly replacing the scart sockets on TV's and monitors but when
are we going to see any HD recorders with a hdmi in and outv sockets on
them ?

HDMI won't replace SCART. There'll always be a need for basic AV
connections. HDMI and SCART are quite different.

Bill

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On Jan 29, 6:19*pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

HDMI won't replace SCART. There'll always be a need for basic AV
connections. HDMI and SCART are quite different.

Define 'always'.
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.

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On Jan 29, 6:19 pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

HDMI won't replace SCART. There'll always be a need for basic AV
connections. HDMI and SCART are quite different.

Define 'always'.
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.


Well never then.
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On Jan 29, 6:19 pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

HDMI won't replace SCART. There'll always be a need for basic AV
connections. HDMI and SCART are quite different.

Define 'always'.
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.


Well never then.

Of course it will at some point.

Are there any 405 line TVs left?



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On Jan 29, 6:19 pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

HDMI won't replace SCART. There'll always be a need for basic AV
connections. HDMI and SCART are quite different.

Define 'always'.
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.


Well never then.

Of course it will at some point.

Are there any 405 line TVs left?



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Sorry not agree that any of the minor channels will go HD.
The main 5 not showing much interest either.
BBC1 and 2 nothing. A few hours a night on a sort of test channel called
BBC HD.
ITV1 2 or 3 programmes per week.
Ch4 not on my Freesat
FIVE nothing.

From what I hear Sky more interested in HD than those I mention.

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Dr Zoidberg wrote:

HDMI won't replace SCART. There'll always be a need for basic AV
connections. HDMI and SCART are quite different.

Define 'always'.
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.


Well never then.

Of course it will at some point.

Are there any 405 line TVs left?


Plenty.

http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/index.php

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In article , Mr deo wrote:
HDMI is slowly replacing the scart sockets on TV's and monitors but when
are
we going to see any HD recorders with a hdmi in and outv sockets on them ?

Peter


You will not see any legal ones..
HDMI's love was pushed because of HDCP.. many of the rules behind HDCP means
we will likely not see a recorder we can simply buy and put in the middle.
You can however buy dongles to do this now, but because of the way it is set
up it means we probably wont see any HDMI/HDCP input sockets on PVR's.
Componet can deliver just as well so it would be worth looking for componet
inputs.

Well, I'll just stick with my SCART cables, RGB switch box and CRT telly until
something fails seriously enough to give me a reason to change, but in the
meantime everything works just fine and I've got more important things to
worry about.

Most of the programmes are crap anyway; would HDMI make them look any better?

Rod.
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On Jan 29, 6:19 pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

HDMI won't replace SCART. There'll always be a need for basic AV
connections. HDMI and SCART are quite different.

Define 'always'.
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.

I think SD will be here for a very long time.

Bill

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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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"David" wrote in message
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.


Well never then.

Of course it will at some point.

Are there any 405 line TVs left?

I'm not sure that it's a valid parallel. In those days TV standards were
dictated entirely by broadcast. There was no domestic recording and very
little CCTV. SD could continue side by side with HD for many years.

Bill

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On Jan 29, 10:19*pm, Roderick Stewart

Most of the programmes are crap anyway; would HDMI make them look any better?

Rod.
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LOL, I'm glad it's not just me that thinks like that! Rubbish is still
rubbish, even with 10x as many pixels.

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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"David" wrote in message
SCART will disappear at around the same time SD disappears.


Well never then.

Of course it will at some point.

Are there any 405 line TVs left?

I'm not sure that it's a valid parallel. In those days TV standards were
dictated entirely by broadcast. There was no domestic recording and very
little CCTV. SD could continue side by side with HD for many years.

Bill



I have been saying for years that technology seems to go backwards..
I was doing VoIP about 12 years ago, but now it's gone mainstream and the
software that's out there isnt as good as it was 12 years ago.
Video has done the same thing, we get HDTV and what happens, UTube explodes
and people enjoy watching .25SD content.. When i thought tech couldnt go in
reverse any more, it turns out people are watching UTube video's on their 2
1/2" mobile phones!..

So yes, SD will be here for Yonks and Yonks.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.

Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.

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I have been saying for years that technology seems to go backwards..
I was doing VoIP about 12 years ago, but now it's gone mainstream and the
software that's out there isnt as good as it was 12 years ago.
Video has done the same thing, we get HDTV and what happens, UTube
explodes
and people enjoy watching .25SD content.. When i thought tech couldnt go
in
reverse any more, it turns out people are watching UTube video's on their
2
1/2" mobile phones!..

So yes, SD will be here for Yonks and Yonks.






except that HD material can now be viewed on youtube.
maybe not the same bitrate as broadcast tv, but still HD.



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Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....

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"mr deo" wrote in message
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I have been saying for years that technology seems to go backwards..
I was doing VoIP about 12 years ago, but now it's gone mainstream and
the
software that's out there isnt as good as it was 12 years ago.
Video has done the same thing, we get HDTV and what happens, UTube
explodes
and people enjoy watching .25SD content.. When i thought tech couldnt go
in
reverse any more, it turns out people are watching UTube video's on
their
2
1/2" mobile phones!..

So yes, SD will be here for Yonks and Yonks.






except that HD material can now be viewed on youtube.
maybe not the same bitrate as broadcast tv, but still HD.



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....


Yea, I had a guy telling me a few weeks ago that VM should be giving us all
the HD stations, after all we can rent HD movies online and all that jazz..
But the online version of HD doesnt seem to be regulated, and the quality is
often less than SD broadcast ;( ..

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"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.

Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.

If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way of
recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie camera at
the screen.

(All this modern stuff is a right pain to use. A few weeks ago I came across
an old table-top17" TV. There were 5 channel buttons on the front, and when
I pressed one the channel changed instantly! What luxury!

At home, what with fiddling with an unresponsive remote and waiting for the
TV or box to change the channel in it's own time, I soon get fed up.)

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Bartc

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Bartc wrote:

If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way
of recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie
camera at the screen.


The assumption is that you will pay to get a full quality version, and
not be happy with the reduced picture quality you can get through an
unencrypted SD output or filming the screen.

Did someone say "youtube"?

Andy

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Bartc wrote:

"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.

Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.

If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way
of recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie
camera at the screen.

(All this modern stuff is a right pain to use. A few weeks ago I came
across an old table-top17" TV. There were 5 channel buttons on the
front, and when I pressed one the channel changed instantly! What luxury!

At home, what with fiddling with an unresponsive remote and waiting for
the TV or box to change the channel in it's own time, I soon get fed up.)


I remember when I was about 10 my Grandparents had a TV with proximity
type buttons (or very light touch anyway), you could run your finger up
and down the 3 channels and it would change picture as fast as you could
move your finger, oh the luxury!

--
Tony

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Those touch buttons did seem to have a problem with my old Granny's
furniture polish though. When she had just done the polishing, they either
failed to work, or would switch to a preferred channel at no notice even if
you were in the kitchen.
Brian

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Bartc wrote:

"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:48:10 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I think SD will be here for a very long time.

Yes, SD and sub-standard SD will always be transmitted
because of bandwidth restraints and associated costs.

However, that does not mean that transfer of such video
signals will not be still possible via SCART, but will
most probably only be possible by an super secure DRM
infested HDCP encrusted Macrovision (tm) protected digital
link for which you have inserted your paid up subscription
chip card to prove that you have viewing rights.

If you can see the content with your eyes, then there will be some way of
recording it. Even if it's by pointing an 18fps hand-cranked movie camera
at the screen.

(All this modern stuff is a right pain to use. A few weeks ago I came
across an old table-top17" TV. There were 5 channel buttons on the front,
and when I pressed one the channel changed instantly! What luxury!

At home, what with fiddling with an unresponsive remote and waiting for
the TV or box to change the channel in it's own time, I soon get fed up.)


I remember when I was about 10 my Grandparents had a TV with proximity
type buttons (or very light touch anyway), you could run your finger up
and down the 3 channels and it would change picture as fast as you could
move your finger, oh the luxury!

--
Tony