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I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with
global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! |
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Jay wrote:
I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC. |
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Jay wrote:
I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! What caused the delay ?. The Queen would have gone out on time and someone else on another group says it was for the full 10 minutes, so did the news at 5.45 pm over run ? |
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In message , Mike O'Sullivan
writes Jay wrote: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC. For those bringing in the New Year when watching digital TV or radio, the magic stroke of midnight will already be around a second too late. Should they start Ould Lang Syne on the 6th pip of the time signal? This, of course, is normally the last, long pip. However, on this occasion, it will be short, being the penultimate of 7 pips. -- Ian |
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"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message
... Jay wrote: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC) which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on transmission of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and others?) and Channel 5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not definitive!). Unfortunately this does depend on the techies inserting the PDC code. I have missed recording programmes either because the PDC code wasn't present or (for some reason) only about the first two minutes recorded. There is also the problem of how the recorder handles a following problem. Does it start immediately (missing a few minutes) or does it not bother at all. The BBC (and others) build in 'recovery time' into its schedules and also includes repeats which can be pulled quickly when an 'important' programme needs to be aired. What is VERY annoying is that even though the schedule is running late it still insists on putting in trailers. Sureley these could / should be dropped in an effort to regain lost time. I can understand that commercial channels need to include advertising even when running late but the comment on trailers equally applies to them. Bill Ridgeway |
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"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message ... "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message ... Jay wrote: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC) which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on transmission of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and others?) and Channel 5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not definitive!). Unfortunately this does depend on the techies inserting the PDC code. I have missed recording programmes either because the PDC code wasn't present or (for some reason) only about the first two minutes recorded. I agree, but would it not make more sense to keep to the schedule and proper start time? I know there are odd occasions when a massive news story breaks or somthing similar occurs when the schedule might be changed, but with modern timing and digital methods they have no excuse for not starting and ending programmes on time. Infact if I ran a radio or TV service, it would be a priority to make sure timing was really accurate. It really is unnaceptable for the BBC to be running such poor time keeping and I urge everyone to complain to them about it. |
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utter contempt for the viewer.
The BBC: "This is what we do" |
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"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message
... Jay wrote: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC. Actually it is nothing to do with the BBC. It is the world time standard that is being corrected to bring atomic time back into sync with solar time as the earth's rotation is slightly slower than man-made time. There has been much discussion of late that, rather than add a leap second (as it is known) every so often, they should be held back and one minute added perhaps twice a millenium. If this were done the next adjustment would not be until (IMSMC) around 2050. However that would cause all sorts of problems for other reasons, so I think they have decided to let things run as now. If you want more info - from a British perspective - look at http://www.npl.co.uk/server.php?show=ConWebDoc.3010 which explains it all. -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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"Woody" wrote in message ... "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message ... Jay wrote: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC. Actually it is nothing to do with the BBC. Nobody said it was anything to do with the BBC. I just said that the BBC had reported the story on BBC News. Who said anything about it being anything to do with the BBC? What is the BBC's fault is the lack of time keeping on its TV channels. |
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message ... wrote: What caused the delay ?. The Queen would have gone out on time and someone else on another group says it was for the full 10 minutes, so did the news at 5.45 pm over run ? AIUI the delay was mostly caused by Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special overrunning. This programme was pre recorded on the afternoon of Monday 22nd December, so why they couldn't edit it down to the allotted timeslot, Probably for the same reason that no-one seemed to listen to the Ross's recorded radio show that caused such an uproar a few weeks ago after it was allowed to be broadcast. |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... I made my comments on this earlier, suffice to say, that if the recording system worked on a unique ID on program content, rather than time, it would really not matter. Brian Come on Brian, if the BBC can't tell the bloody time, how are they gonna work out ID codes? Time is simple enough and if they can't get that right they are obviously behind the door. Obviously some t*at at the BBC overlooked the overun of Strictly Con Dancing. I am sure I could have done a good enough edit of it myself to fit it into the alloted time slot. So why didn't they do it? Had they shut up the edit shop for Christmas? The Big finger is pointing to 12 and the little finger is pointing to the 3... Oh it must be 9 o'clock! |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:18:42 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan
wrote: Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC. Well, that's not too bad then! The "Today" programme followed up (and rather trumped) that news at 8.30 this morning by giving a time-check that was 2 hours wrong. |
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Well, pdc was invented yonks ago, and has been said on here, it appears not
all the broadcasters will support it...Cannot think why...So iits not just the bbc is it. Nobody is going to go overboard with a system unless everyone supports it. anyway, what are you all going to do with your extra second. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Jay" wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message m... I made my comments on this earlier, suffice to say, that if the recording system worked on a unique ID on program content, rather than time, it would really not matter. Brian Come on Brian, if the BBC can't tell the bloody time, how are they gonna work out ID codes? Time is simple enough and if they can't get that right they are obviously behind the door. Obviously some t*at at the BBC overlooked the overun of Strictly Con Dancing. I am sure I could have done a good enough edit of it myself to fit it into the alloted time slot. So why didn't they do it? Had they shut up the edit shop for Christmas? The Big finger is pointing to 12 and the little finger is pointing to the 3... Oh it must be 9 o'clock! |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Well, pdc was invented yonks ago, and has been said on here, it appears not all the broadcasters will support it...Cannot think why...So iits not just the bbc is it. Nobody is going to go overboard with a system unless everyone supports it. It's all a very long story:- http://625.uk.com/pdc/index.htm -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
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Mark Carver wrote:
wrote: What caused the delay ?. The Queen would have gone out on time and someone else on another group says it was for the full 10 minutes, so did the news at 5.45 pm over run ? AIUI the delay was mostly caused by Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special overrunning. This programme was pre recorded on the afternoon of Monday 22nd December, so why they couldn't edit it down to the allotted timeslot, when they had 72 hours to do so is puzzling. In fact even more puzzling is this programme was repeated on the BBC HD channel on Sunday evening, and ran for its originally allocated timeslot of 60 mins ! The BBC/Red Bee could have eased the situation by ditching all subsequent trailers, to move the schedule back towards the original timings. They didn't. They even gave W&G a 35 second continuity announcement, FFS, just say " And now, later than billed, Wallace and Grommet." I'm afraid the whole sad state of affairs highlights the Beeb's attitude that trailers and presentation are more important than the programmes themselves. The apparent incomplete control of PDC, Freeview AR, and Sky+ triggers displays technical incompetence, because those features are supposed to safeguard situations like this, and whoever *deliberately* scheduled the evening with those timings, just displayed utter contempt for the viewer. In short a total disgrace. Some years ago, whilst still working for the BBC, I asked a Presentation contact why a certain trail (The Cliffhanger one) hadn't been pulled. He said they weren't allowed to overrule marketing decisions, and that they had to follow what ads - sorry trails - had been listed. Also, this particular trail had been queried by Pres with marketing who said it should go out. I think it resulted in something like 288 complaints. marketing still rule though. Richard |
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wrote: On 31 Dec, Laurence Payne wrote: The "Today" programme followed up (and rather trumped) that news at 8.30 this morning by giving a time-check that was 2 hours wrong. Jack Demaneu (SP?) lives on! De Manio -- From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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Jay wrote:
I see the BBC..........................On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Luckily I pad my recordings off Freeview with -1 +10 on my PVR so I didn't miss anything. But I was wondering, how on earth did they get that late? Was there some massive news breaking on Christmas Day that I was and remain unaware of, or did they suffer some hicup in playout of an "unmissable" programme? -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks" |
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"Phil Cook" wrote in message ... Jay wrote: I see the BBC..........................On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Luckily I pad my recordings off Freeview with -1 +10 on my PVR so I didn't miss anything. But I was wondering, how on earth did they get that late? Was there some massive news breaking on Christmas Day that I was and remain unaware of, or did they suffer some hicup in playout of an "unmissable" programme? -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks" The general consensus is that Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special overan its allocated time slot. Thus leaving everything else after it running by about seven minutes late. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:01:45 -0000, "Jay"
wrote: "Phil Cook" wrote in message .. . Jay wrote: I see the BBC..........................On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Luckily I pad my recordings off Freeview with -1 +10 on my PVR so I didn't miss anything. But I was wondering, how on earth did they get that late? Was there some massive news breaking on Christmas Day that I was and remain unaware of, or did they suffer some hicup in playout of an "unmissable" programme? -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks" The general consensus is that Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special overan its allocated time slot. Thus leaving everything else after it running by about seven minutes late. The system does sometimes work well. Following John Sergeant's withdrawal from Strictly Come Dancing there was an extended edition of It Takes Two on BBC2. ITT started half an hour early and lasted an hour instead of a half. It was correctly recorded in full by my Humax Freeview PVR. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jay" saying something like: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. I must admit my ears perked up when I heard the Sky News bimbo announce that "... the Earth has been turning slower than usual this year." Followed at this end by gales of laughter. |
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"Jay" wrote in message ... I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Strange. I managed to record 'Doctor Who' on my PC (with a manual tuner setting - no EPG auto-updating) and didn't miss the end. I added two minutes of padding and this was more than enough. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:20:48 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jay" saying something like: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. I must admit my ears perked up when I heard the Sky News bimbo announce that "... the Earth has been turning slower than usual this year." Followed at this end by gales of laughter. Yes! As the Wikipedia article says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second the rotation of Earth slows down continually, though at a slightly variable rate. Whether or not 2008 was a particularly slow (or less slow) year that is not the reason for the leap second. |
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Jay wrote:
"Woody" wrote in message ... "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message ... Jay wrote: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC. Actually it is nothing to do with the BBC. Nobody said it was anything to do with the BBC. I just said that the BBC had reported the story on BBC News. Who said anything about it being anything to do with the BBC? What is the BBC's fault is the lack of time keeping on its TV channels. You said it was to bring the UK in line with global timing, which is wrong. |
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I didn't think PDC was supported on DTT, only legacy analogue?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:35:02 -0000, "Bill Ridgeway" wrote: There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC) which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on transmission of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and others?) and Channel 5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not definitive!). |
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Whilst we're on this topic peoples, watch you digital off-air clock at
midnight tonight. For one second you will see 23:59:60 - which we all know cannot exist. Where is The Doctor when he's needed? -- Woody harrogate three at ntlworld dot com |
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Some years ago, whilst still working for the BBC, I asked a Presentation contact why a certain trail (The Cliffhanger one) hadn't been pulled. He said they weren't allowed to overrule marketing decisions, and that they had to follow what ads - sorry trails - had been listed. Also, this particular trail had been queried by Pres with marketing who said it should go out. I think it resulted in something like 288 complaints. marketing still rule though. Richard One imagines these sorts as the SS/Gestapo of the BBC regime, going around in distinctive black uniforms with peaked caps and red BBC swastika logos on their arms. Your loyalty to the BBC Reich is in doubt: Your name vil go on ze list. |
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The message
from Java Jive contains these words: I didn't think PDC was supported on DTT, only legacy analogue? On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:35:02 -0000, "Bill Ridgeway" wrote: There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC) which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on transmission of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and others?) and Channel 5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not definitive!). I too get all 'vexed' by the scheduling tw*ts at the Beeb when they pull such stunning c*nts with the scheduling (and it isn't only due to program over-runs, they also have a knack of playing 'shuffle the deck' with regular weekly programs - as noted by various viewers who wrote in to complain to the Beeb's PoV program a few weeks back). However, such shenanagins will soon become rather academic once hard disk space gets even cheaper and the whole day's worth of programming gets dumped to disk as a matter of routine. After all, it's no more work to 'top and tail' individual program segments from a 16 hour or so's worth of capture than it is, currently, to do from a 4 or 5 hour capture. The BBC don't seem to realise that such c*ntinuity behaviour and playing fast and loose with the scheduling is eroding their esteem in the eyes of the TV viewing public. Eventually, the 'Bean Counters' will reduce the BBC to being _only_ a playout centre with no added value whatsover to mark them above the level of a cable TV shopping channel. With the way the broadcasters are behaving right now and for the forseeable future, there's definitely a market for an intelligent "PVR" whereby, with a bit of AI and a 6 (or even 24) hour disk buffer per channel of interest, it will become possible to make such 'dirty tricks' by both the BBC and commercial broadcasters totally irreleveant to the viewer's endpoint experience. Year on year, it gets cheaper and cheaper to build a PC based PVR using Open Source Software, such as Myth TV (Linux based). Although it would seem the government and commercial entities are having it all their own way regarding the use of technology to control and restrict what the 'governed' can and cannot do, such open source projects offer the possibility to turn the tables and allow us to keep track of whatever government promises have been made (readily accessable News program archiving) and filter the 'Spam' out of both public and commercial broadcasting. Considering the above paragraph, this sort of application may well be "_The_ Killer App" that 'buries microsoft' and lets loose, upon the world's consciousness, the opensource operating system known as Linux. ;-) Never mind the "Solution Looking For A Problem" type of software application, here is a superlative example of a (worldwide) problem demanding a solution to drive the development of such an open source software project (and then some). Forget the TiVo, that was a mere harbinger of what is to come. If you're a broadcasting company, be worried, be very worried (especially if you're a commercial broadcaster - be _very_ _very_ worried). The very technology that helps you diseminate your 'wares' on the cheap is going to make you reconsider the viability of your very existence. For the rest us, remember, "Revenge Is A Dish, Best Served Cold". Next time such broadcast nonsense starts raising your blood pressure, relax and keep in mind that your next open source based "Myth TV on steroids" PVR is going to render such irritation a thing of the past (and probably free up some precious bandwidth in the process ;-). -- Regards, John. Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying. The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots. |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:33:00 +0000, Johnny B Good wrote:
Eventually, the 'Bean Counters' will reduce the BBC to being _only_ a playout centre That is done for them by Red Bee is it not? (Except for playout of regional programs in Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales I think.) |
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Bill Ridgeway wrote:
There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC) which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on transmission of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and others?) and Channel 5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not definitive!). Only works on analogue transmissions doesn't it? I found it to be unreliable and gave up using it. |
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In article , Johnny B Good
wrote: With the way the broadcasters are behaving right now and for the forseeable future, there's definitely a market for an intelligent "PVR" Agreed, but in the meantime, a stupid PVR with an intelligent user is good enough. Rod. -- Virtual Access V6.3 free usenet/email software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/ |
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In article , Jay [email protected]
ospam.org scribeth thus "Woody" wrote in message ... "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message ... Jay wrote: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC. Actually it is nothing to do with the BBC. Nobody said it was anything to do with the BBC. I just said that the BBC had reported the story on BBC News. Who said anything about it being anything to do with the BBC? What is the BBC's fault is the lack of time keeping on its TV channels. Perhaps they ought to alter the rotational speed of old mutter earth;!.. -- Tony Sayer |
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from Roderick Stewart contains these words: In article , Johnny B Good wrote: With the way the broadcasters are behaving right now and for the forseeable future, there's definitely a market for an intelligent "PVR" Agreed, but in the meantime, a stupid PVR with an intelligent user is good enough. I agree, but us 'intelligent users' are rather outnumbered by those who would expect the technology to do the 'Donkeywork' for them. Me, I'm hoping someone with even more acumen would fulfil their hopes and dreams. ;-) -- Regards, John. Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying. The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots. |
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Light of Aria wrote:
One imagines these sorts as the SS/Gestapo of the BBC regime, going around in distinctive black uniforms with peaked caps and red BBC swastika logos on their arms. Your loyalty to the BBC Reich is in doubt: Your name vil go on ze list. "Name?" "Don't tell him Pike!" (kim) |
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Brian W wrote:
"Jay" wrote in message ... I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One' schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes. Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to time programmes these days! Strange. I managed to record 'Doctor Who' on my PC (with a manual tuner setting - no EPG auto-updating) and didn't miss the end. I added two minutes of padding and this was more than enough. "Doctor Who: Confidential" started on BBC3 before "Doctor Who" had finished on BBC1. If you had used the digital programme guide to set a timer you would have missed the end of Doctor Who. (kim) |
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"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message
... Bill Ridgeway wrote: There is a piece of technology called Programme Delivery Control (PDC) which, with appropriate recorders, start and stop recording on transmission of the programme. This is available on BBC1, BBC2 (and others?) and Channel 5 but not ITV1 or Channel 4 (This is not definitive!). Only works on analogue transmissions doesn't it? There's an equivalent available on Freeview as part of the Freeview+ recorder spec (e.g. Humax PVR-9200T with up to date software). It works reasonably well, though it misses out the first and/or last 30 seconds or so of programmes sometimes. I doesn't seem to miss programmes altogether like PDC (mainly BBC). |
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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
... On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:20:48 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Jay" saying something like: I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line with global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the year tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its own ship in order when it comes to timing?. I must admit my ears perked up when I heard the Sky News bimbo announce that "... the Earth has been turning slower than usual this year." Followed at this end by gales of laughter. Yes! As the Wikipedia article says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second the rotation of Earth slows down continually, though at a slightly variable rate. Whether or not 2008 was a particularly slow (or less slow) year that is not the reason for the leap second. The BBC have got it rather wrong here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7797818.stm by muddling solar and sidereal days up: "For thousands of years the definition of a day was easy enough: the length of time it takes for a full rotation of the Earth around its axis. "Since ancient times, clocks of various descriptions have helped us keep track. "But recently, clocks have become so accurate that it has emerged that the Earth's rotation can take slightly longer or shorter than 24 hours." Well the time taken for a full rotation of the earth on its axis is about 23 hours 56 minutes, never 24 hours. -- Max Demian |
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Ian Jackson wrote:
For those bringing in the New Year when watching digital TV or radio, the magic stroke of midnight will already be around a second too late. Should they start Ould Lang Syne on the 6th pip of the time signal? This, of course, is normally the last, long pip. However, on this occasion, it will be short, being the penultimate of 7 pips. Which radio station broadcasts the pips and Old Lang Syne at the beginning of a new year? |
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In article , tony sayer
writes Perhaps they ought to alter the rotational speed of old mutter earth;!.. "On the third stroke - JUMP" Well it works for 1Bn Chinese! ;-) -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed. Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying) |
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